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Location: Middle TN | Do you bridle or saddle first and why! Thanks (:
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| Since mine are tied when I saddle and I do not tie with a bridle, I saddle first, put on boots, then get that last pull on the cinch before I get on.
I had a horse about 35 years ago that could pull some stuff while saddling. I learned a lot from him both saddling and unsaddling! He did not stay here long. |
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| I saddle first, tied or not.
As for starting colts, saddle first, allow them to move around with the saddle, lunging or round penning.
It is much safer to lunge a colt with a halter and lead shank versus a bridle |
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Location: Middle TN | streakysox - 2015-05-17 3:10 PM
Since mine are tied when I saddle and I do not tie with a bridle, I saddle first, put on boots, then get that last pull on the cinch before I get on.
I had a horse about 35 years ago that could pull some stuff while saddling. I learned a lot from him both saddling and unsaddling! He did not stay here long.
So did the horse act better if bridled first? I also usually saddle while tied or being held by someone else but I'm having issues with one that acts up when being saddled unless he has his bridle on! I am currently looking into having him chiro'd and trying out different saddles! I just recently had someone tell me that they never saddle before bridling which sounded so odd to me, I didnt realize that it really mattered! Most of the horses I ever owned could care less which order it was done in, until now! |
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Location: Middle TN | cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 3:14 PM
I saddle first, tied or not.
As for starting colts, saddle first, allow them to move around with the saddle, lunging or round penning.
It is much safer to lunge a colt with a halter and lead shank versus a bridle
I totally agree! Most of the horses I've ever owned only had a bridle on when I was riding.. otherwise just haltered for leading, tying, lunging, etc. so most of the time they were already saddled before bridling..
Is it possible for a horse to get into a routine and become confused if someone does this differently? As I said in previous post, I am working on getting this particular horse chiro'd and trying some different saddles on him.. |
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| Saddle firstThen u can pull up cinch a little a a timePut on boots ectThen bridle |
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| lookyheremac - 2015-05-17 3:20 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 3:14 PM
I saddle first, tied or not.
As for starting colts, saddle first, allow them to move around with the saddle, lunging or round penning.
It is much safer to lunge a colt with a halter and lead shank versus a bridle
I totally agree! Most of the horses I've ever owned only had a bridle on when I was riding.. otherwise just haltered for leading, tying, lunging, etc. so most of the time they were already saddled before bridling..
Is it possible for a horse to get into a routine and become confused if someone does this differently? As I said in previous post, I am working on getting this particular horse chiro'd and trying some different saddles on him..
Yes horses can be stuck in their routines
I had one come back from the trainers when she got overwhelmed she started spinning to the left, as this is what he did to settle her down.
If he does better bridling, and you don't have to tie when saddling, I would probably bridle him then saddle.
If I have to tie, then the horse and I will be spending a lot of time together saddling and unsaddling.
It all depends on what you are willing to put up with. |
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| lookyheremac - 2015-05-17 3:14 PM
streakysox - 2015-05-17 3:10 PM
Since mine are tied when I saddle and I do not tie with a bridle, I saddle first, put on boots, then get that last pull on the cinch before I get on.
I had a horse about 35 years ago that could pull some stuff while saddling. I learned a lot from him both saddling and unsaddling! He did not stay here long.
So did the horse act better if bridled first? I also usually saddle while tied or being held by someone else but I'm having issues with one that acts up when being saddled unless he has his bridle on! I am currently looking into having him chiro'd and trying out different saddles! I just recently had someone tell me that they never saddle before bridling which sounded so odd to me, I didnt realize that it really mattered! Most of the horses I ever owned could care less which order it was done in, until now!
No, he would pull back, get loose and almost throw my saddle because he bucked so hard. He would get loose anyway he could. You had to unsaddle by undoing the breast collar first back girth next then cinch last. Jerk the saddle off. If you had someone hold him he would jump on top of them. I did not have a lot of friends at saddling time. I also learned how to hold a horse properly. |
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Location: Middle TN | cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 3:35 PM
lookyheremac - 2015-05-17 3:20 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 3:14 PM
I saddle first, tied or not.
As for starting colts, saddle first, allow them to move around with the saddle, lunging or round penning.
It is much safer to lunge a colt with a halter and lead shank versus a bridle
I totally agree! Most of the horses I've ever owned only had a bridle on when I was riding.. otherwise just haltered for leading, tying, lunging, etc. so most of the time they were already saddled before bridling..
Is it possible for a horse to get into a routine and become confused if someone does this differently? As I said in previous post, I am working on getting this particular horse chiro'd and trying some different saddles on him..
Yes horses can be stuck in their routines
I had one come back from the trainers when she got overwhelmed she started spinning to the left, as this is what he did to settle her down.
If he does better bridling, and you don't have to tie when saddling, I would probably bridle him then saddle.
If I have to tie, then the horse and I will be spending a lot of time together saddling and unsaddling.
It all depends on what you are willing to put up with.
Thanks so much, He is 11 so I would assume that he could have been in a routine like that, especially since they said he didn't tie well..
I however have had no issues as far as tying him so far, other than some pawing!
I'm just trying to learn his ways and this threw me for a loop for sure! He just acted super cinchy with no bridle and when I bridled then saddled he was perfectly fine, didn't even flinch!
I have also put into consideration that he is in a new place around new horses and it was getting dark out.. I still don't feel that that is an excuse for acting up! I've had him exactly a week today. |
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Location: Middle TN | streakysox - 2015-05-17 3:44 PM
lookyheremac - 2015-05-17 3:14 PM
streakysox - 2015-05-17 3:10 PM
Since mine are tied when I saddle and I do not tie with a bridle, I saddle first, put on boots, then get that last pull on the cinch before I get on.
I had a horse about 35 years ago that could pull some stuff while saddling. I learned a lot from him both saddling and unsaddling! He did not stay here long.
So did the horse act better if bridled first? I also usually saddle while tied or being held by someone else but I'm having issues with one that acts up when being saddled unless he has his bridle on! I am currently looking into having him chiro'd and trying out different saddles! I just recently had someone tell me that they never saddle before bridling which sounded so odd to me, I didnt realize that it really mattered! Most of the horses I ever owned could care less which order it was done in, until now!
No, he would pull back, get loose and almost throw my saddle because he bucked so hard. He would get loose anyway he could. You had to unsaddle by undoing the breast collar first back girth next then cinch last. Jerk the saddle off. If you had someone hold him he would jump on top of them. I did not have a lot of friends at saddling time. I also learned how to hold a horse properly.
Oh wow! That is crazy.. How was he bred if you recall and don't mind me asking? My mom is super stereotypical and blamed my new guys behavior on bloodlines that she just happens to dislike lol
ETA: he doesn't buck just jumps backwards and rears some when cinching!
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Location: Phoenix | That is WEIRD. Saddling up should not bother a horse whether there's a halter or bridle on his face. I wouldn't put up with it to be honest! I'd do a lot of round penning and getting him listening to you (redirecting his feet, turning to the inside) before saddling again. Would hate for him to get your number. |
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| King ranch breeding like Cardinals hiredhand and Leo. He had been very mistreated and his way of handling it was to fight back. If you ever acted like you were afraid, he immediately had the upper hand. I wasn't afraid of him but should have been. He would lay awake at night thinking of things to do to me. He had a new, not so good, trick each week so you never knew what he was going to do. |
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Location: Middle TN | hammer_time - 2015-05-17 4:13 PM
That is WEIRD. Saddling up should not bother a horse whether there's a halter or bridle on his face. I wouldn't put up with it to be honest! I'd do a lot of round penning and getting him listening to you (redirecting his feet, turning to the inside) before saddling again. Would hate for him to get your number.
I thought it was strange too! That's why I brought it here lol, he is DEFINITELY getting lots of lunging and round pen work in the coming weeks!
The previous owner was scared to death of him, which is why I think he does some of the things he does, because it worked before.. not now! He's in for a rude awakening with me; |
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Location: Middle TN | streakysox - 2015-05-17 4:13 PM
King ranch breeding like Cardinals hiredhand and Leo. He had been very mistreated and his way of handling it was to fight back. If you ever acted like you were afraid, he immediately had the upper hand. I wasn't afraid of him but should have been. He would lay awake at night thinking of things to do to me. He had a new, not so good, trick each week so you never knew what he was going to do.
Oh poor fella, I hate that he was mistreated resulting in the behavior, it sounds like he developed a hatred for humans! This guy definitely was NOT mistreated, I believe the opposite is at play with him, seems like he got away with ALOT, therefore he thinks he can now.. NOPE! |
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| Saddle, but we have to lip twitch my mare to do up her cinch (someone just holds her lip and she mostly behaves, but she is VERY cinchy and will bite whoever is close to her if they don't pay attention), so we don't mess with her bridle until we are going to ride. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I saddle befor I put bridle on, I have always done it this way all the years that I have been riding, I dont care if they are green, season, old, young just a habit of mine.... |
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