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| What percent do you prefer for your performance horses eating just grass hay? I just feed a grass hay. Why I ask is I have a 5 yr old mare currently on 7 lbs it strategy healthy edge a day , which is 12.5 % protein , 8 % fat . She looks pretty good , every where but her flanks / hindquarters . She could stand a little more weight . She currently weighs 1,070 lbs & she was 1,100-1,130 last year . She needs to be right at 1100 lbs . Her hindquarters could stand to be fuller.. I don't like how her hindquarter is looking when she's a typical big built chicks beduino build . She's rode regularly & gets all the grass hay she'll eat . Should I find a feed with 14% protein? Thoughts ? |
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| Really need to get a nutritional analysis of your hay, to make a good guess. I can get that done here, for &10. Don't know about your area. There is a huge difference in grass hay that was baled before maturity, and after. Many grass hays, baked past maturity, will test as low as wheat straw. I prefer a grass haY to alfalfa, but I want one with some feed value to it.
Personally, I hate to supplement a roughage with a concentrate. If I'm feeding a concentrate, it needs to be because im working my horse. I don't want to "have" to feed one because my hay is weak. |
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| I feed a 14% feed and have for 40 years. My performance horses also get Platinum Performance. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I feed bluebonnet omega intensify force and it's 12% protein and 12% fat. |
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| TwistedK - 2015-05-18 9:48 AM
I feed bluebonnet omega intensify force and it's 12% protein and 12% fat.
I wish there was a blue bonnet dealer by me :( |
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Location: Oklahoma | Fancy Lass - 2015-05-18 9:53 AM
TwistedK - 2015-05-18 9:48 AM
I feed bluebonnet omega intensify force and it's 12% protein and 12% fat.
I wish there was a blue bonnet dealer by me : (
I just started mine on it. I also feed bermuda round bales. Mine get 4 pounds of BB and 3 pounds of alfalfa pellets. The mares and gelding get fed once a day, and my stallion is getting fed twice a day as he's dropped weight being breeding season. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | All mine are out 24/7 on ample pasture right now. But get 2lbs strategy gx, 1lb alfalfa pellets, 2x a day. lysine, probiotics, and flax.at night
The lysine and probiotics have really made them fill out, and stay heavy. I will prob be decreasing the lbs of strategy if they start getting too fat.
From the research I've done Strategy healthy edge is designed for easy keepers.
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| It is suppose to be geared more towards easy keepers . I do like it better then the regular strategy though .. I've never had good luck with the regulsr . The healty edge has more fat but less calories than the strategy GX. I have equine senior in my barn as well .. Thinking I may give that a try & see if it'll fill her out the rest of the way . I just hate when they aren't looking to my standards lol |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | You need more fat content, not protein. |
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| JLBerry - 2015-05-18 1:46 PM
You need more fat content, not protein.
It's 8 % fat . You think more fat would fill her hips in? |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Fancy Lass - 2015-05-18 1:53 PM
JLBerry - 2015-05-18 1:46 PM
You need more fat content, not protein.
It's 8 % fat . You think more fat would fill her hips in?
Yes, I feed Renew Gold. It is 15% fat. Keeps all of mine looking great- from weanlings to seniors. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Yup! Proteins are building blocks for muscle but fat fuels those muscles.
A big trainer in Oklahoma got me on to lysine! It helps with topline and bloom, check it out pure lysine at vita flex nutrition. |
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| Maybe I should try ultium ? I know my horses won't eat renew gold .. Way too picky . |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Your nutritional content is more than sufficient. If your horse isn't thriving it's likely because she isn't utilizing what you are feeding her. A good quality probiotic/digestive supplement should get her on track. 8% Fat is more than enough to keep any horse fleshy
When we start throwing weight building, ulcer preventing, fat adding supplements to our horses feed it throws the whole formulation off and you could be causing more problems than you realize.
You can order Bluebonnet's Transform DSI from their website even if there isn't a dealer in your area. I posted a thread a couple of weeks ago showing some before and after photos of my horses since they've been on it. They were having problems much like you describe with yours. 30 days later they look completely different. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-05-26 2:54 PM
Your nutritional content is more than sufficient. If your horse isn't thriving it's likely because she isn't utilizing what you are feeding her. A good quality probiotic/digestive supplement should get her on track. 8% Fat is more than enough to keep any horse fleshy
When we start throwing weight building, ulcer preventing, fat adding supplements to our horses feed it throws the whole formulation off and you could be causing more problems than you realize.
You can order Bluebonnet's Transform DSI from their website even if there isn't a dealer in your area. I posted a thread a couple of weeks ago showing some before and after photos of my horses since they've been on it. They were having problems much like you describe with yours. 30 days later they look completely different.
How much did that cost to get it shipped? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | barrelracing? - 2015-05-26 3:57 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-05-26 2:54 PM Your nutritional content is more than sufficient. If your horse isn't thriving it's likely because she isn't utilizing what you are feeding her. A good quality probiotic/digestive supplement should get her on track. 8% Fat is more than enough to keep any horse fleshy
When we start throwing weight building, ulcer preventing, fat adding supplements to our horses feed it throws the whole formulation off and you could be causing more problems than you realize.
You can order Bluebonnet's Transform DSI from their website even if there isn't a dealer in your area. I posted a thread a couple of weeks ago showing some before and after photos of my horses since they've been on it. They were having problems much like you describe with yours. 30 days later they look completely different. How much did that cost to get it shipped?
I have it locally, so I'm not sure what they charge to ship. Knowing how well it worked for mine I would pay a little extra to get it. You don't have to keep them on it longterm. It's more of a recovery product for when their digestive system needs a boost to get back on track. |
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Location: Kansas | Fancy Lass - 2015-05-18 2:37 PM Maybe I should try ultium ? I know my horses won't eat renew gold .. Way too picky .
you could try the amplify by purina. it's like 30% fat and you only need to feed 1lb per day |
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Location: Texas | I feed safe choice which is a 14/6 feed. I don't add any fat but i wouldn't mind having a higher fat ration. I also feed grass hay and they get pasture. |
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| She looks really good , I just think her hips are a bit sunk in .. I don't like it , but it could just be her I guess . I'm just not sure what to feed her for the best results . She doesn't look bad by any means! |
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