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Location: TN | just wondering, how do people post horses for sale claiming they are something they are not. Ask $30,000+ for a horse, google it and it's a 3d horse. Maybe ran in the 1d at a local jackpot with 30 head in it? Do they really think you wouldn't do research before dishing out that kind of money? Just take their word for it. It's just unbelievable what the ads say and prices they ask. Don't mind paying for a real deal, but don't try to sell crap. If I'm going to pay $25,000+ for a horse, I don't want to see its consistently in the 3/4d. So tied of looking at counterfeit Ada. Vent over.
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| It's kind of amazing, you go to a barrel race and typically less than 10% are in the 1D but half the horses for sale are 1D. Hummmm....?
Since we are venting.... Why would someone put N/A for a horses height? Do they really think that height doesn't matter? I'm 5'11" and won't even go look at one that is under 15.1. Why make me waste both of our time by not listing height? Also, I called on one recently that was listed as 15.2 and asked if she'd taken a tape to the horse. She hadn't but went out and did it... 15 hands on the nose. Height matters! Take a moment and measure your horse for sale.
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Because it's the corporate and political mentallity today. And everybody else is getting this way. Nobody tells the truth. |
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Location: Montana | I gotta agree...it gets tiresome after a while. |
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Location: Missouri | Cinchy girl - 2015-05-20 10:05 AM
It's kind of amazing, you go to a barrel race and typically less than 10% are in the 1D but half the horses for sale are 1D. Hummmm....?
Since we are venting.... Why would someone put N/A for a horses height? Do they really think that height doesn't matter? I'm 5'11" and won't even go look at one that is under 15.1. Why make me waste both of our time by not listing height? Also, I called on one recently that was listed as 15.2 and asked if she'd taken a tape to the horse. She hadn't but went out and did it... 15 hands on the nose. Height matters! Take a moment and measure your horse for sale.
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^this. I'm not shopping but follow a lot of for sale pages on Fb and I find it rather odd that SO many horses are listed as consistent 1d horses when we all know only about 10% of barrel horses fall in this category. Whatever happened to honesty??? |
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| Because horses are worth what you can get a sucker to pay for them LOL<---- Legit quote from an owner to someone who just bought his horse then they both just laughed and laughed as she finished writing out a 40k check and handing over another 40k in cash, so we wouldn't pay taxes it on (shhh shhh!) LOL
That person running that horse in 2/3d might have spent 50-70k on a bad sucker that they can't ride LOL
Most ppl outrageously price horses though I will agree.
Its buyer beware. You need to do your homework and be an FBI detective. Information is out there from social media from than ever and you can easily find out about anything.
ETA: I 100% agree that only about 10% of horses fall into that 1D consistent category.
1D horses are different depending on who you run against, where you are running, and the ground conditions that day but here are a little sample of prices:
1D local show horses 15-50k (these are 2D horses at a big show most of the time)
big show 1D horses 30-100k
1D ANYWHERE horses 100k and up
Also they should be priced according to how hard they are to ride for example a 50K horse is most likely not a point and smooch one hander to the second and third kind of horse, those 1D horses command a much higher price tag.
Bottom line is this: a good horse is hard to find....just like a good man
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Location: Kentucky | I think it's a buyer beware situation. I've bought a horse before without doing the research and I had to live with the consequences. Never again. I'll turn into the most Sherlock Holmes detective on the face of this planet when buying a horse.
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| BS Hauler - 2015-05-20 10:11 AM
Because it's the corporate and political mentallity today. And everybody else is getting this way. Nobody tells the truth.
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| LOL Thats Right! I have seen horses go for 30,000 bucks because they have a certain brand on them and are finished 3-4D horses. Every horse is worth what someone will pay. :) |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | arion - 2015-05-20 10:38 AM BS Hauler - 2015-05-20 10:11 AM Because it's the corporate and political mentallity today. And everybody else is getting this way. Nobody tells the truth. wait,,,,,,,what?
Didn't you get the memo? Corporations=evil, faceless entities. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Lately I have been shopping for prospects and a youth horse. I am about ready to pull my hair out. I watch videos, I can tell alot by a good video. One of my Biggest pet peeves is when there is a video of circle work or flat work and the people crop the video! Um I know why you cropped it, the horse more then likely doesnt pick up that lead well or a lope well. Especially since every video of the dang thing is cropped from a trot to a lope. Besides that if you are advertising a YOUTH horse I expect to see at least a video of a youth riding the horse. The height thing gets me too! I am 6'2" so that horse had better be 15.2 plus WITH OUT shoes on if I come out to look at it. Not 15 hands, but she "looks" bigger bull crap |
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Location: Missouri | I have to agree! Unfortunetly people won't even look at your horse now a days with out seeing that it is a 1-D horse. In all honesty...75% of the people don't need a 1-D horse! They need a 2D-3D horse and lessons on how to ride it. Most people are looking for the next big thing and don't want to put in the time and effort it takes to become the best. Ask any big rider, they didn't just go out and buy a bad a mama jama horse who won everything, they had been riding for years and years before "the one" came along. Coughing out 80K+ for a horse you probably can't even ride is a little ridiculous to you, and that horse. I see too many top notch horses out there with a jokey that should be riding a 30 year old horse on it's death bed.
Sorry for the brutal truth on all of this, but it's true and I am tired of 2D-3D horses being priced at 30-40K. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | mlh0972 - 2015-05-20 8:53 AM
I have to agree! Unfortunetly people won't even look at your horse now a days with out seeing that it is a 1-D horse. In all honesty...75% of the people don't need a 1-D horse! They need a 2D-3D horse and lessons on how to ride it. Most people are looking for the next big thing and don't want to put in the time and effort it takes to become the best. Ask any big rider, they didn't just go out and buy a bad a mama jama horse who won everything, they had been riding for years and years before "the one" came along. Coughing out 80K+ for a horse you probably can't even ride is a little ridiculous to you, and that horse. I see too many top notch horses out there with a jokey that should be riding a 30 year old horse on it's death bed.
Sorry for the brutal truth on all of this, but it's true and I am tired of 2D-3D horses being priced at 30-40K.
I think the reason people "wont" look at a horse that isnt listed at 1D is because alot of theses sellers want 8k for a 3D/4D barrel horse. Prices are all over the dang map and it is frustrating. That is why I buy PROSPECTS and not finished! |
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Location: North Dakota | I find it hard to find a safe kids horse! So many people willing to lie and put a child in danger! |
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| Just a thought, how much should a 2D horse bring if a true 1D horse is 50-80,000 or more? |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I read an ad the other day for a horse that was 15.8 hands... |
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Location: NC | cowgirl_3207 - 2015-05-20 11:51 AM
Lately I have been shopping for prospects and a youth horse. I am about ready to pull my hair out. I watch videos, I can tell alot by a good video. One of my Biggest pet peeves is when there is a video of circle work or flat work and the people crop the video! Um I know why you cropped it, the horse more then likely doesnt pick up that lead well or a lope well. Especially since every video of the dang thing is cropped from a trot to a lope. Besides that if you are advertising a YOUTH horse I expect to see at least a video of a youth riding the horse. The height thing gets me too! I am 6'2" so that horse had better be 15.2 plus WITH OUT shoes on if I come out to look at it. Not 15 hands, but she "looks" bigger bull crap
Your lucky people actually have videos!! I have been horse shopping and you dont know how many people dont have videos and have an excuse why they dont. (there may be a legit reason but when im looking at a horse 22+ hr away i want to see a video before i make plans to come see/ride it!!)
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| GLP - 2015-05-20 12:06 PM
Just a thought, how much should a 2D horse bring if a true 1D horse is 50-80,000 or more?
True 1D horses are 1D anywhere and 1D anywhere commands a higher price tag than 80K, unless they are hard to ride or have problems.
True 1D anywhere horses are your VF Sporty by Design, RLJ High Intensity, Jetto Red, Latte, Tall Boy, Hot Shot, etc... It doesn't matter who is on their back they will clock in the 1D. Now problems, age, and how easy they are to ride all play a factor in how much someone is willing to pay. These are horses that will be 1D against the highest levels of competition (large rodeos and 1000 plus entry shows).
If you find a 1D anywhere horse with multiple stats for under 80K thats easy to ride and sound mortgage your house and buy that sucker! Or tell me and i will...
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| I agree and I don't have horses right now (college, working, etc) but I'm really wanting to gain experience riding and getting some more lessons, etc with barrel racing so some day I can get a 2D/3D horse and learn to ride it and then maybe, just maybe someday, when I'm ready and have the time get a faster horse. But right now and probably for a good while I want experience riding and barrel racing so I then have the skills to buy a 2D/3D horse that fits me and my riding level and what makes me feel comfortable, once I'm stable enough to do so!! I've seen a lot of people at local horse shows, etc that I use to go to buy things that aren't the best for them and their riding ability and it's just downright dangerous and wouldn't be enjoyable for me to not have fun and be uncomfortable. I'd feel pretty guilty for wasting the horse's potential too! Anyways..I'm done rambling. Lol |
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