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Location: Four Corners Colorado | So I have listed my colt for sale, and I have had lots of Mexican people interested in him. They all race horses but none are on Equibase so I am assuming it is underground/match racing. I have ignored some of the inquries on my colt because I want him to go to a performance home or one that will send him to an offical track so he can get an AQHA record. Am I wrong? I have never dealt with this sort of thing.
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I just read the headlines
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| nope you are not overreacting at all |
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Swiffer PIcker Upper
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Should I put No Match racers on my ad? I have him listed on here too. |
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I just read the headlines
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| I don't know if that would make them lie to you about what they wanted him for. I would just keep ignoring them. |
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| I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!! |
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| equussynergy - 2015-05-21 8:16 AM
Should I put No Match racers on my ad? I have him listed on here too.
I wouldn't. If you say that they will just just lie about it. At least you know that they are probably match racers if you can research them. |
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Location: California | Is he cut? Majority of the time they won't buy geldings. I know this personally since my fiance is Mexican... no geldings, no grade horses. LOL
They are usually pretty easy to spot (match-racers).
Sellers should be able to ask buyers for videos of how they ride/work a horse. haha  |
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| I bought a broodmare that match racers had owned. They never bothered to register her babies. According to AQHA, six foals have been registered. Two belong to me. When I picked the mare up, the owner took me down the road to see her two year old that was owned by some match racers. The horse was extremely well taken care of. The mare that I bought obviously has had excellent care her entire life. A couple of the mares's babies have run on the track and do have records but that was really not what I looked at when I was looking for a broodmare. If you sell anything you cannot be guaranteed that someone is going to do what they say with the horse. If you sold a horse as a futurity prospect a person might end up running the horse at local barrel races. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I just say sold if they call and can't speak english or if the emails sound like they may be match racers. Call it profiling if you want, but even hispanic names, I will ask some questions in the emails to see what their intentions are. I have sold a few that I know went to match racers. Never heard about those horses again. 3 to be exact (that I know of). I just do what I can to avoid them. Don't put no match racers in the ad or they will lie to you. I had one that played the game pretty good for a couple of weeks and then slipped up. |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| FlyingJT - 2015-05-21 9:30 AM
I've actually watched a couple match races.. They tie themselves on bareback with a rope...... craziest thing I've seen!!!
Here the match races are just like a regular race, (only done under the table). |
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| Depends on how badly you want to sell the horse. If they have the money, and you want to sell, new owners can do whatever they want with the horse. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-05-21 11:36 AM Depends on how badly you want to sell the horse. If they have the money, and you want to sell, new owners can do whatever they want with the horse.
My thoughts too on selling horses, you cant control what happens to them once you sell, we want too thats for sure but if you are in the business of selling its hard to say who can buy, even if they go to a home of your choice who says they wont resell to just who ever. I feel for you you have a good heart.. and to me if you put no match racers in your ad they will just get a friend to go buy it for them. |
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| Yep, happens all the time in my area of SOuthern California! THey all have connections. |
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Swiffer PIcker Upper
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-21 10:11 AM I just say sold if they call and can't speak english or if the emails sound like they may be match racers. Call it profiling if you want, but even hispanic names, I will ask some questions in the emails to see what their intentions are. I have sold a few that I know went to match racers. Never heard about those horses again. 3 to be exact (that I know of). I just do what I can to avoid them. Don't put no match racers in the ad or they will lie to you. I had one that played the game pretty good for a couple of weeks and then slipped up.
This is the part that bothers me. I know once you sell a horse you have no control over it but honestly nothing makes me happier than hearing how a horse I bred and raised is doing. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | equussynergy - 2015-05-21 10:49 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-21 10:11 AM I just say sold if they call and can't speak english or if the emails sound like they may be match racers. Call it profiling if you want, but even hispanic names, I will ask some questions in the emails to see what their intentions are. I have sold a few that I know went to match racers. Never heard about those horses again. 3 to be exact (that I know of). I just do what I can to avoid them. Don't put no match racers in the ad or they will lie to you. I had one that played the game pretty good for a couple of weeks and then slipped up. This is the part that bothers me. I know once you sell a horse you have no control over it but honestly nothing makes me happier than hearing how a horse I bred and raised is doing.
They are all still in my name. I know to most that I have talked to (not selling to) that the horses are not overly valuable to them. If they are, they are normally buying the $40k ones from the Heritage and not the $3500 from me. Once they are too sore to run, they just load em up and send em off.
My happiest customers are ones that are competing in their local 4D's etc. I have some that have futurity plans for them, but either way the horses are well loved, have great homes and I get updated pictures constantly. As a breeder that makes my day. Sure I would love to have the next BFA Champion, who doesn't hope for that with a home raised baby? But I got what I was asking out of them and they are in a good place. So life is good. |
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 Warrior Mom
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| They match race across the road from my place. I can't see it but I can hear the distinct music and announcer. Makes me shudder. They do it pretty much every Sunday. Hundreds of trailers and cars come and go over there. My vet told me I didn't want to know what really goes on over there. She's had to be called out pretty often. She told me not to ask. |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | I would try really hard NOT to let one go to match racers..... No drug testing and it gets ugly.
That being said, once you sell them, you have no control as to what happens to the horse next. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | In Utah the Mexican organizations rent the regular race tracks for the day for match races. Many of the Mexicans race in match races and the AQHA approved races. When you sell a horse you never know what will happen to it. If I had a good offer I would not turn it down. Money is green no matter who it comes from. I have had horse deals with many people some good and some bad but I have found that Mexicans pay cash. |
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Location: Kansas | Ive actually seen several very nice well bred race horses for sale by mexicans....and I mean jaw dropping nice. I don't believe all are bad, some actually take very good care of their horses. I guess it would just depend on the individual and their rep, but I wouldn't shy away from it. Most turn around and list them after they race, and some end up in performance homes. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-21 12:34 PM Ive actually seen several very nice well bred race horses for sale by mexicans....and I mean jaw dropping nice. I don't believe all are bad, some actually take very good care of their horses. I guess it would just depend on the individual and their rep, but I wouldn't shy away from it. Most turn around and list them after they race, and some end up in performance homes.
I bought 2 of those REALLY nice prospects. One was hopped up on pain meds and died of severe laminitis 30 days later the other was supposedly turned out because she got sore from a bad bump in race training. In reality she probably flipped in the gates and broke her withers and bone in her tail.
If they are great looking, well bred and cheap. It IS too good to be true. We paid a lot for the 2 mentioned above, no way would I even think if buying one of their cheaper ones. If they were sound, their buddies would be buying them at that price. |
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