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Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-06-11 3:51 PM
Subject: Bleeder and Lasix



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My daughters horse has been a bleeder for 2 1/2 years now, we give her lasix before we run her. My daughter has been having trouble on and off trying to get her in the arena since she started bleeding. We have had vet check and everything is good there. Just wondering if maybe the lasix has something to do with it? How do we go about fixing it?

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alp341
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-06-11 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeder and Lasix



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lasix makes some horses more "hot".. but she could also still be bleeding inside and it just not coming out. Maybe try a stronger dose for a few runs and see if the gate einxiety goes away
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12smitty
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2015-06-11 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeder and Lasix


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Did you have her scoped for ulcers?
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racer4267
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-06-11 8:00 PM
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Since they have bled in the arena during a run - they will fret about running.  It cuts their air off & they panic. 
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-06-11 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeder and Lasix



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I would run her on your dose of Lasix and then take her the next day somewhere for a scope and get her lung washed out. This is where the vet pumps sterile fluid into the lung, then sucks it back out. If they're bleeding, the fluid will come back blood stained. Then you'll know for sure if your Lasix dosage is working. It's also my understanding that they need 6-8 weeks off after they bleed, and that if they are run too soon, they can bleed through the Lasix.
I've just gone through this and had the horse in for full diagnostics and testing. It ended up being about $700 to get all the scoping, washing, and chest xrays, but it was worth it because he's a nice horse and deserves a chance to really heal and get straightened out.

Also: Edited to add:

This horse bled through the Lasix, and had his nose bleed a bit, but he never coughed, not once. He only bled from the nostril after I let him eat grass for about 10 minutes after our run. This is a good way to watch for a bleeder.
Scheduled him with the vet, she said to run him without Lasix the night before the scope to get a good feel for what was going on. Ran him, let him get his head down, and no blood! Nothing! The fluid sample came back BRIGHT red more than 12 hours later, where his lungs were still ACTIVELY bleeding. Horse gave no indication that he had bled. Just food for thought. The lung wash and full scope were imperative to see what was going on.

Edited by classicpotatochip 2015-06-11 10:09 PM
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barrelracerpa04
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-12 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: Bleeder and Lasix



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I run my horse on it to now, and so far its working.
I give 3cc 3hrs out and no water. good luck
 
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Lmichaels
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2015-06-13 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: Bleeder and Lasix



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I have a bad bleeder and he is a handful in the gate because of the bleeding

I have to run mine on 5cc Kentucky Red and 5cc lasix - I got him scoped clean too

He has gotten better "slowly" in the gate - it just takes time once they arent bleeding to get them to stop worrying about drowning in blood

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