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| Seriously people, if you want to sell your horse, post links to videos of the horse doing what your ad states it can do. An ad for a dead broke 2 or 3 yr old should not have a video of it ONLY being ridden in a tiny round pen or tiny covered 50' x 50' pen. If you have a "proven" 1D or 2D (or any D for that matter) horse, show some videos of that horse actually doing it and list some stats. Where has that horse ran in that D? Date? When I'm selling one, this is what I do and they usually sell within days. When I'm looking to buy, this is what I expect to see without having to call or email and ask.
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| Agreed. I recently saw one that said somethin along the lines of it clocking 1D/2D but only had a video of it trotting barrels...lol. I don't wanna be a hater but unfinished ads or misleading ads peeve me. |
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You can do a search on the horse's name and see if any results are listed. I usually slip right past the ads that don't have multiple video links added.
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Location: Mississippi | I agree! There are so many horses that are priced high yet I can't find any stats on them. It seems like alot of people think just because their horse has decent bloodlines that they can price them out of this world regardless of how they are performing. And almost every horse listed has "potential to be 1D"...agh. It's really hard to weed through the ads and I have basically given up and decided to wait until the fall when hopefully prices go down a little. |
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Boot Detective
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| Months ago I contacted a lady with a well bred horse for sale, very high priced. I guess they expected to sell it that high because it had 1 sibling that had won a lot. They could not produce any verifiable stats or videos of the horse actually running competitively anywhere. Now when I see an ad with NOTHING in it to justify the price, I don't even bother calling or emailing. I just don't understand their thinking. |
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Location: Mississippi | quickdraw - 2015-06-15 10:50 PM Months ago I contacted a lady with a well bred horse for sale, very high priced. I guess they expected to sell it that high because it had 1 sibling that had won a lot. They could not produce any verifiable stats or videos of the horse actually running competitively anywhere. Now when I see an ad with NOTHING in it to justify the price, I don't even bother calling or emailing. I just don't understand their thinking.
Or when you see 2paragraphs at the beginning of what the horses 1/2 sibling is doing yada yada...I skip over these too. I don't want to have to read through all of that just to get to the information about the actual horse that I am interested in. Sorry, just venting today I guess ha. |
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| I always look for the ads that say 2/3D but with different rider will run in 1 D. lOL just kidding that drives me crazy to see. |
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| turtleaut - 2015-06-16 9:08 AM
quickdraw - 2015-06-15 10:50 PM Months ago I contacted a lady with a well bred horse for sale, very high priced. I guess they expected to sell it that high because it had 1 sibling that had won a lot. They could not produce any verifiable stats or videos of the horse actually running competitively anywhere. Now when I see an ad with NOTHING in it to justify the price, I don't even bother calling or emailing. I just don't understand their thinking.
Or when you see 2paragraphs at the beginning of what the horses 1/2 sibling is doing yada yada...I skip over these too. I don't want to have to read through all of that just to get to the information about the actual horse that I am interested in. Sorry, just venting today I guess ha.
I agree, if you have to justify the horse's worth based off of its siblings (especially if the horse is competition age itself) I just skip over it... That's like saying because I love horses, my brother does too! (Which could not be farther from the truth!) |
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| Yes! When there are 2 paragraphs about what the "kin folk" has done before the small sentence about the one for sale, I consider that a smoke screen. It is nice to know basic details about the siblings, sire, dam. .....but tell me more about the horse that is actually for sale. |
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Location: Canada | I once saw a horse we were interested in but there were no videos on the ad so I emailed the seller and asked for videos under saddle so I could see how the horse moved.
The seller sent back and video of her riding the horse holding her phone while recording the horse's neck-head. All you saw was mane bobbing up and down as they went down a road. After I stopped laughing, as I had assumed she sent the wrong video, I asked her for a different video under saddle showing how the horse moved. She replied back and said I just sent one that's all I have.
I moved on after that. 
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| Oh Lord...lol |
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Location: Idaho | I very much agree with this post and other things posted here. I also like to add... 2d but 1 d locally.... ok this makes sense to a point but doesnt without a point of reference. Is local with 10 girls in small town Idaho or local with 100 girls in small town Texas? I think location and how many were entered also play a part in bragging rights. Also, we know who Dash to Fame is.... no need to fill up the ad with his accomplishments! :) Big time studs dont need any introduction, imo, but tell me why the mare they are out of is. Like is she a performer, producer or well bred.... thats what I like to know. |
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Location: on a horse | Another of my peeves are,"priced reduced". Was looking at an ad just recently for $15000 next week same horse same ad priced reduced to $35000!!!! WTH! Are you kidding me?
And you have had the horse since xbirth it is now 10 and you "just can't get with it" |
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Location: MD | But then everyone will find out that I'm lying to force a sale...duhhh. |
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Location: run2win land | This is my pet peeve also. I will say that I have had some that are 2D-3D with me since that is my level of riding and when I put a 1D rider on them they are 1D. I hate the 1D-2D horses shown loping the barrels. Seriously, you have NO videos of them running that? I was seriously looking this winter and started calling my search the elusive unicorn. UGH! |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | TSlashO - 2015-06-16 2:47 PM
I very much agree with this post and other things posted here. I also like to add... 2d but 1 d locally.... ok this makes sense to a point but doesnt without a point of reference. Is local with 10 girls in small town Idaho or local with 100 girls in small town Texas? I think location and how many were entered also play a part in bragging rights. Also, we know who Dash to Fame is.... no need to fill up the ad with his accomplishments! :) Big time studs dont need any introduction, imo, but tell me why the mare they are out of is. Like is she a performer, producer or well bred.... thats what I like to know.
I think you need something in black and white to prove 1D versus 2D in regards to location. There are people from my area that post they win 1D local with over 100 riders but that doesn't mean there was any competition that day. We have several in the area with nice horses but when they go to the big shows they are bottom of 1D or top of the 2D. It all depends on WHO shows up that day. I hate when I see someone on here bragging about being in the 1D or winning the 1D when I know there was no competition that day. That's why when Im looking I want to see it in writing so I can see who else was there. Im from Texas but even a 100-200 horse barrel race does not necessarily have "tough" competition. I lived in Colorado for awhile and went to a few races that had 50 horses and it was darn sure just as tough if not tougher. |
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Location: Texas | Thats why I post the number of runners in open on most of the videos I post.
I saw a horse listed from my area not too long ago saying it was 1D/2D at the races I go to.. I only found the horse in the results of two of the jackpots so far this year, and it was 1D and 2D.. but it was 4 tenths off and 9 tenths off.. so i guess it's relative.
I think I've finally hit the point where I hopefully won't have to try and buy a finished horse again...there's so much false info and over exaggerating going on it makes my head spin.
And I agree about the # of horses and the amount of competition. I've been to some of the ride like a girl races in Caldwell. Some days they get 50-60 head and it's not too tough of a race. Some days, they get 30-40 and its a who's who of NFR and top futurity riders. I'm used to running at races with 130-150 runners and those stinking ride like a girls are just as hard to place at with a fraction of the runners!
ETA- I will say, I've never had a race where I look back and said, man that was an easy one to win. Some of the smallest jackpots or rodeos I've been to have had me teeth grinding nervous to the very end because who happened to show up were tough as heck.
Edited by casualdust07 2015-06-17 5:02 PM
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Location: East of the Pecos | If I was buying a 1D/2D horse, I would ask them to run it at a weekend show that I knew would be tough and watch it run a couple times. If they refuse, then you have your answer. If you have to travel to watch it run, it's better to lose the gas money and a weekend then have a horse that isn't what you want. Don't buy these kind sight unseen, take the time to go watch them run a couple times in tough competition first. |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | This is a little off topic but I love when you read descriptions and they tell you what kind of headgear they run them in...then you look at pictures and video and it's not what they said. That really bothers me for some reason. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If I'm looking at videos of barrel runs I dont want to see the horse that I'm looking at being lead into the area by someone on foot for a run this just tells me this horse must have some gate issues so that would be a turn off for me. |
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