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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-06-17 1:59 PM
Subject: How long at the patience pole


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I have a fully that doesn't stand tied well at all. Fidgeting, hollering, pawing... Just acting a fool. Even when you are standing there brushing her or whatever. My question is, how long is acceptable to leave a horse tied to the patience pole? Or tree of knowledge... Lol
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MC1993
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-06-17 2:01 PM
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I usually leave them tied while I ride(for a refresher) or all day
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2015-06-17 2:04 PM
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 I leave them until they relax for a minute the first time and then tie them again the next day and build on it.
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-06-17 2:07 PM
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As long as necessary until they relax.  When they are calm, they get to come away.  It's called a patience pole for a reason 

I have left a bucket of water and one tied all day long before. We checked on him periodically and watched as he dug a giant hole - but he had to stand in it and figure life out (yes he had plenty of rope and wasn't hurting).  

 
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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-06-17 2:24 PM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2015-06-17 12:59 PM

I have a fully that doesn't stand tied well at all. Fidgeting, hollering, pawing... Just acting a fool. Even when you are standing there brushing her or whatever. My question is, how long is acceptable to leave a horse tied to the patience pole? Or tree of knowledge... Lol

Unless there are other factors IE the horse dosent understand how to give to the halter to acatualy stand tied.....
until they get over them selves.
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-06-17 2:41 PM
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 A hissy fit and lack of respect (willing to mow you over you while brushing) as long as it takes.....when their focus is off of whatever their fixated on (likely buddies who aren't there). Since I assume she associates you coming to her with release, Id do random brushing sessions and then walk away.
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cheeka77
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2015-06-17 3:37 PM
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All day in a shaded area or indoor. If they're still dancing by the end of the day repeat. Sounds harsh but a lack of respect can be dangerous and it honestly teaches them a lot!
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-06-17 3:40 PM
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Until they learn to stand quietly.... I do make sure they've got access to water periodically and I don't leave them tied when I'm gone.  I check on them regularly......but if they're being obnoxious, they might stand there for 10 hours or so.  (I fly spray a LOT).  It's not fair to tie them up and let the flies chew on them.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-06-17 4:04 PM
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Thanks y'all. I was afraid it would take all day. She's stubborn. It only took 3 hours lol. She is back in her pen. Little turd. She is a yearling so I hate to be too harsh but she can lunge both ways, backs well, flexes ect. Has good ground work for her age- when she's focussed. She is very smart. I want her to learn to be calm about things now instead of fussing with her later.
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-17 8:18 PM
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 I've usually found it takes more than one day to fix. Tie them again and they start all over, or let something set them and you find out if they're fixed or not. Young ones I tie out as often as I can, especially during feeding time. When they start under saddle, I tie them saddled up and let them sit. Lots of tying makes for a good horse, IMO. 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-06-17 8:27 PM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2015-06-17 4:04 PM Thanks y'all. I was afraid it would take all day. She's stubborn. It only took 3 hours lol. She is back in her pen. Little turd. She is a yearling so I hate to be too harsh but she can lunge both ways, backs well, flexes ect. Has good ground work for her age- when she's focussed. She is very smart. I want her to learn to be calm about things now instead of fussing with her later.

I don't like to put that much pressure on a yearling just yet  jmho 
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2015-06-17 9:36 PM
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SG. - 2015-06-17 9:27 PM
RoaniePonie11 - 2015-06-17 4:04 PM Thanks y'all. I was afraid it would take all day. She's stubborn. It only took 3 hours lol. She is back in her pen. Little turd. She is a yearling so I hate to be too harsh but she can lunge both ways, backs well, flexes ect. Has good ground work for her age- when she's focussed. She is very smart. I want her to learn to be calm about things now instead of fussing with her later.
I don't like to put that much pressure on a yearling just yet  jmho 
 Agree 100% also when they are that young they lose attention span and or focus easy.. we usually only ground work that young for 15 minutes or so..

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BBrewster
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-06-17 11:04 PM
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I build em up to it..short periods tied but they only get untied if they're calm and behaving...so can be as short as 10 mins or as long as all day....and I start tying em around weaning time but not all day just a few minutes at a time at that age but by yearling they tie decent and by 2yr they are pros..but i also have a halter pm em by day 2 and lead them often as babies...what you're experiencing with a yearling is kinda like a toddler going through its terrible twos lol I joke but it's so true til they are about 2 1/2 or 3 they have those moments where they act out pawing or acting up or being pushy...til they learn boundaries and such...fun times lol
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-18 8:57 AM
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Fairweather - 2015-06-17 8:18 PM  I've usually found it takes more than one day to fix. Tie them again and they start all over, or let something set them and you find out if they're fixed or not. Young ones I tie out as often as I can, especially during feeding time. When they start under saddle, I tie them saddled up and let them sit. Lots of tying makes for a good horse, IMO. 

I agree with Fairweather and do the same thing.  Unless it's too hot, most of mine stand tied alot on the weekends; even the finished or semi finished horses.  I always leave a horse tied for at least an hour after I ride and young horses will get saddled and tied for an hour or so before I get on them as well.  All young horses that are 2 or older get saddled and tied every day no matter if i'm riding them that day or not.  I agree with Fairweather in that lots of tying makes for a good horse.   
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-06-18 9:08 AM
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Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:57 AM
Fairweather - 2015-06-17 8:18 PM  I've usually found it takes more than one day to fix. Tie them again and they start all over, or let something set them and you find out if they're fixed or not. Young ones I tie out as often as I can, especially during feeding time. When they start under saddle, I tie them saddled up and let them sit. Lots of tying makes for a good horse, IMO. 
I agree with Fairweather and do the same thing.  Unless it's too hot, most of mine stand tied alot on the weekends; even the finished or semi finished horses.  I always leave a horse tied for at least an hour after I ride and young horses will get saddled and tied for an hour or so before I get on them as well.  All young horses that are 2 or older get saddled and tied every day no matter if i'm riding them that day or not.  I agree with Fairweather in that lots of tying makes for a good horse.   

It's amazing what being tied up for  a few hours with a saddle on can do for one's attitude.....especially in the summer.  LOL
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-18 9:31 AM
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MS2011 - 2015-06-18 9:08 AM
Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:57 AM
Fairweather - 2015-06-17 8:18 PM  I've usually found it takes more than one day to fix. Tie them again and they start all over, or let something set them and you find out if they're fixed or not. Young ones I tie out as often as I can, especially during feeding time. When they start under saddle, I tie them saddled up and let them sit. Lots of tying makes for a good horse, IMO. 
I agree with Fairweather and do the same thing.  Unless it's too hot, most of mine stand tied alot on the weekends; even the finished or semi finished horses.  I always leave a horse tied for at least an hour after I ride and young horses will get saddled and tied for an hour or so before I get on them as well.  All young horses that are 2 or older get saddled and tied every day no matter if i'm riding them that day or not.  I agree with Fairweather in that lots of tying makes for a good horse.   
It's amazing what being tied up for  a few hours with a saddle on can do for one's attitude.....especially in the summer.  LOL

Funny story.....when I was in college, we had a college rodeo in MO where my mom lived.  My bestfriend and I went up a few days early to stay with my mom and ride, because I was going to run mom's horse at the rodeo instead of my own.  My friend had a nice mare, but she was pretty hard running and free and she was having some trouble getting with her.  The tools were there, but she wasn't sure how to use them.  Mom rode that mare for two days off and on.  There was no arena, just a great big 5 acre sized barrel pattern that she would long trot through over and over.  Mom would ride her for 30 mins then go tie her up for a couple of hours, go ride her for 15 mins and tie her up for an hour.  Put her up and night and started over the next day.  My friend kept saying are you sure she's even going to have the energy to run this weekend?  I just said, trust me and trust mom.  Got time for the rodeo and she and I were first and second in both rounds and the average.  Her mare worked her but off.....like she was on tracks.  It was beautiful!  And that made a believer out of her on the whole tying deal.  Nothing like short lessons and when they do something right, go tie them up.  Then go again and same thing.  Makes for a good horse that is focused IMO.   
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2015-06-18 9:58 AM
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i agree with you guys, tying does wonders.................

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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2015-06-18 10:48 AM
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JMO, it's not how long you leave them, it's how often. Horses learn by repetition. I tie my yearlings, I don't think it's too hard on them, but I don't leave them tied all day. About the length of time it takes me to work one of my riding horses, but I do it a few days a week.
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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-06-18 11:01 AM
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I hobble all my colts for this reason...love hobbles!  Get yourself a good pair of leather hobbles and take your filly to a round pen or fenced area.  Put them on and turn her loose and get out of the way.  She'll fight them for a bit and then stand.  Don't leave her there because you don't want her to figure out how to run in them!  After she stands and looks relaxed you can take her over to her favorite place (patience pole) and tie her and hobble her.  Makes a world of difference I think!
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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2015-06-18 11:10 AM
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I think for a yearling 45 min a day would be good so they will learn to stand quite. All day long every once in awhile wont cut it. I always like tieing my babys out for awhile and brush them down are give them a bath and move on to doing something else and then come back and turn them loose, some times I did this twice a day to teach them to be patience I hardley left them over 45 mins at a time. 
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