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| Hi my 12 yr old daughter recently started to push her barrel horse and since then he started to stop at the second barrel and sometimes again at the 3rd . He is very broke and our vet says he is in good health . We are having him scoped next week but I thought I would try here first. I will try and upload a video |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | When a horse does this it is usually some kind of pain issue. I had one that would lock up at the first barrel and wouldn't leaave it. I think her problem was bad hocks and a muscle tear. |
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| We had the vet out and they did a full physical on him and they say he is in great shape . We are going to have him scoped next week to see if he is a bleeder or has any other breathing problems . I'm trying to upload a video but am struggling . |
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| Here is a video .... Maybe if it will upload |
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Location: NE Texas | kiel53 - 2015-06-18 3:16 PM
Here is a video .... Maybe if it will upload
you can also try uploading to youtube and then posting link here. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | So you got xrays done as well.....im with the bbs sounds like a pain issue...could be teeth..could be ulcers......its a long list.....m |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Has the horse done this with anyone other than your daughter? Maybe she is sending mixed signals or he is buffaloing her. |
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| How old is the horse?
Is the horse a finished horse?
When were the horse's teeth done last?
Is the horse stopping before the barrel or on the backside?
Lots of unanswed questions even with a video. |
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Location: Texas | She may not be giving him enough room going into the barrel. |
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Location: WI | I've seen the videos. It's not a issue of no room, girl gives lots of room. Horse shoulders coming in and freezes.
I think a big question to ask is what kind of vet do you have? The local dog vet isn't going to be very good at seeing soreness. You want an expert. I can give you madness if you need. Not saying your vet is bad or anything cause I don't know who it is. Just something to keep in mind. I learned hard way |
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| Our vet is a very reputable one in our area. And we had them out a few weeks ago to do another phisical on him and they said he looks great . We don't have an issue running any other events but barrels . My daughters trainer threw out the idea that he could be a bleeder so we started him on lasix and ran him at a few more races but have had no luck . We are going to run him at a barrel race next wed and the vet is coming out thur morning to scope him so I'm hoping to find out then what his problem is . I am suspecting that it is some sort of breathing problem . I have been in contact with others that have had the same issue with there horse . I'm still not sure why I can't upload the video on here . Mayby the person that said they seen the video could post them for me . |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | if he was a bleeder.....i would suspect you would find trouble in most all speed events..................id get his legs xrayed............
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| kiel53 - 2015-06-19 11:56 AM
Our vet is a very reputable one in our area. And we had them out a few weeks ago to do another phisical on him and they said he looks great . We don't have an issue running any other events but barrels . My daughters trainer threw out the idea that he could be a bleeder so we started him on lasix and ran him at a few more races but have had no luck . We are going to run him at a barrel race next wed and the vet is coming out thur morning to scope him so I'm hoping to find out then what his problem is . I am suspecting that it is some sort of breathing problem . I have been in contact with others that have had the same issue with there horse . I'm still not sure why I can't upload the video on here . Mayby the person that said they seen the video could post them for me .
The horse really needs to be scooped to determine a bleeder. I think you would be having issues getting the horse in the arena also.
A friend of mine tried ahorse that had been trained by jamming the horse to a stop just before the barrel to teach rate. She could not get that horse around that barrel at a lope or even faster. (We don't train that way). The horse had had this done so many times that it had become a habit. I am not saying this is your horse's problem but I am wondering if it is a habit. I suggest that you slw the horse down until it is working the way you want it to work, then speed back up.
It would be very kind of the person who saw the video to post for you since it shows the problem so well and you are having difficulties posting.
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| I did contact the person who seen the video and she said she would try to post them. He is getting scoped next Thursday by Weitz equine in Northfield mn,they are also the ones who looked at him a few weeks ago . And when I try and post a video it says it's too long . But it's only 45 seconds so I'm not sure what the deal is . I will try and get a shorter clip and post it . |
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| My horse was doing that and it was his hocks I injected and took care of the problem :)
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Location: WI | Here are videos of the horse...
https://youtu.be/D24EcdDKii8
https://youtu.be/nvWRgLQcMQk
https://youtu.be/2DQPmAoWW_c |
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| My personal opinion is there is a lot going on with that horse AND rider. Since you asked here is my honest opinion and I am not trying to be beyotchy either. There is a pain issue somewhere with that horse, the fact he is hesitant to even start suggests that, let alone his stoppage at the 2nd and 3rd barrels. Have you had a chiro/massage therapist go over him? Second, once the pain issue is identified it's in that horse's head and it's going to take some time and a SOFT hand (something I am not seeing in the rider) to bring him back. That horse needs his body worked on and after ruling out any other issues (the head shaking is another clue something physical is going on - I'd check teeth, thoroughly, given the way he is shaking his head. Lastly - reaming on him and kicking him is not going to encourage him to go forward. The rider is simply along for the ride because that horse appears to have a lot of gas to give when running. After the pain issues get fixed I would not show that horse a barrel for a couple of months at least, just ride him out and let him learn to relax again. I would shoot for more controlled, proper form turns instead of what is there now. I hope this did not come across mean as it's not intended that way. Good luck. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | That horse needs to pulled off barrels untill you can find the problem, hes hurting and bad. He looks really confused and that to me is because he hurts, you can tell hes got heart and is trying but riding him in this matter and getting mad at him, I saw that in the first video is not going to make this horse want to run, theres no rate going into the first barrel and theres a reason for it. You need to take this horse to a lameness Vet and get him looked over with a fine tooth and comb, theres something going on the more you run him the worst its going to get for him. Not just any vet is going to find a problem you have got to take him to a Lameness Vet that will know what to be looking for. These videos just made me feel really bad for this horse. |
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| I agree with you on the breathing avenue - but a bleeder will normally almost run away with you. I would consider it being a problem with a flapper or something blocking. Seems like he only does it after he has ran for a little while as he doesn't do it around 1 and no horse should want to stop on the backside of 3rd their instincts are to go home. Looking into roaring, flapper and other breathing issues. |
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