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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2015-06-23 9:32 AM
Subject: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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In your smaller associations how do you get members, or anyone, to help?
We've been drawing a free entry for barrel setters but that's not been enticing people to help.

We have a public arena so we have to water and work it ourself, no one will volunteer for that either.

Someone suggested each week pull X amount of members out of a hat and they're in charge of getting the arena ready, and getting barrel setters.


Another suggestion was you, or a representative for you, has to set barrels at X amount of races to be eligible for year end awards, but that doesn't help with the arena prep, and maybe board members will have to be in charge of that.


Any other suggestions, we're small races 35-40 runners a week.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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You might eventually have to resort to hiring help. Tack on an extra $5 per entry and when people start to b!tch about it tell them why.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-06-23 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots


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At our association, you had to have X amount of work points to be eligible for year end awards. All of the jobs it takes to put on a barrel race counted. Also if you got X amount of dollars/awards donated, that also counted for points. We also gave an award for the person with the most work points. It helped alot, although at the end of the season, especially at the finals, we had to beg people to help.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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We also have to have workpoints to be elgible for year end awards, still don't ever have enough barrel setters.  One local association has 24 shows/year.  Each show is assgined an office and a director who are in charge of arena prep.
Like Bear said, hiring help is the easiest way.


Edited by rodeomom3 2015-06-23 10:06 AM
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-06-23 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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I know some organizations make it a requirement that their members work at a certain number of races before they are eligible for year end awards.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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It's just easier to add a $5 fee on all entries and be done with it. Explain why, and leave it at that. You don't need the continuous hassle of harping at people to set barrels and man the gate. $5 is nothing. If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be barrel racing, in my opinion.
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mcdaniel14
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-06-23 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots


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we have an arena fee of $5and then we also have each member put on 1-2 races to be eligible for awards. my old association had the arena fee and each memeber had to help for atleast 1 jackpot to get awards.
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quikchik
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots


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Add the fee & hire a 4H club or church youth group to help.
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-06-23 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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Not a really a suggestion on how to get people to help, but just want to bring up another perspective. 

I usually run 2 horses at our local jackpots where there is usually about the same number of entries (around 35). My young horse needs more attention and time, and I honestly do not have any time to help at all while the barrel race is going on. By the time I get both of them warmed up, and cooled down, boots put on and off, etc, the race is done.

However, I would glady pay an office fee to hire people to help out, if that is what is needed to keep the barrel races running.


 
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~BINGO~
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-06-23 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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 At the local gymkhanas, each rider is required to help 4 of the 5 races. There's a sign up sheet for each "job". If anyone wants season end awards, they make sure they're on the list.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-06-23 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots


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r_beau - 2015-06-23 11:52 AM

Not a really a suggestion on how to get people to help, but just want to bring up another perspective. 

I usually run 2 horses at our local jackpots where there is usually about the same number of entries (around 35). My young horse needs more attention and time, and I honestly do not have any time to help at all while the barrel race is going on. By the time I get both of them warmed up, and cooled down, boots put on and off, etc, the race is done.

However, I would glady pay an office fee to hire people to help out, if that is what is needed to keep the barrel races running.


 

THIS 100X over. I go to a race to RUN, not to work. I would MUCH rather pay extra to have gate help, barrel setters, etc.
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-06-23 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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Bear - 2015-06-23 10:52 AM It's just easier to add a $5 fee on all entries and be done with it. Explain why, and leave it at that. You don't need the continuous hassle of harping at people to set barrels and man the gate. $5 is nothing. If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be barrel racing, in my opinion.

This! All of the organizations I routinely part take in have had to just add on an office fee that covers hiring help. We still have the BOD in charge of things but the gate/arena/ announcing is all hired in. SOOOOOO much easier then begging for help. Contact your local 4-h groups or high school equestrian teams and you should be able to get your help for the year. 

 
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pinx05
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-06-23 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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I would rather pay for help also. If I wanted to work I wouldn't be at a barrel race lol.  
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2015-06-23 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots


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We are giving a free warm up for a future show in our series to anyone who sets barrels for 2 drags.

If I knew I was just going to be in a drawing and not guaranteed anything, it wouldn't entice me as much. I have a young horse who is going to get a lot of warm ups this year so as long as we have enough running that I can do warm ups in him, run my good horse and get him taken care of, I'll go back and help set to earn warmups for the next show.
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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2015-06-23 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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Thank you for all your suggestion. Keep them coming.
I agree if you're running you don't have time to help, especially at a 30-40 head race.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-23 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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I agree with hiring people and put on an extra arena fee. The people that say they can't afford it can work and it would pay for their extra fee plus help with their entries.  
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-06-23 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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JcNhEmI - 2015-06-23 2:28 PM Thank you for all your suggestion. Keep them coming. I agree if you're running you don't have time to help, especially at a 30-40 head race.

Around here...that barrel race would be over with in less then an hour. 
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Crowned Image
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-06-23 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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tack on that fee and maybe in a couple years you'll have enough members that won't want to pay it anymore and will step up to the plate.


can you have a system like:
if you don't want to pay that fee you can have someone as a representative of the rider work a portion of the show? have a set amount of people you need to use? Just Brainstorming

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threecanman
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2015-06-23 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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The best way to do it is to hire your own help. Not sure where the money goes, but if the proceeds go toward year end awards or a big money finals, show the members the difference between volunteering vs. paying the help.

I always roll my eyes when people say they don't have enough time to help because they are riding, etc. I put on dozens of shows a year or am hired to run the show office and I STILL manage to run 2+ horses at every show and exhibition a few colts. Its called time management. You can volunteer to help, even if its for 10-15 minutes at a time, and still have plenty of time to ride your horses.

But to the OP, hire your help. Its much easier and so much less stressful trying to find help the day of the show!!
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-06-23 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: Getting people to help. . . . Small jackpots



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One of the things I've noticed is that if you are looking for help take what you get, I don't mean to sound snarky but listen, I will come in the office offer to help and most can't think of a thing for me to do, I'm there, hand me a stack of checks to put in order, tell me to run results whatever, announce while you do something else etc. Time management goes both ways a good producer will have their stuff together and know when/how to ask for help. They will also have clear and concise rules and make decisions accordingly, so if you feel like you lack there a little put it together.

I used to put on barrel races when I was younger (20-25) and let me tell you it is much easier when you don't have a family or kids to worry about so to the young ladies, now is the time to step up and give it a whirl!

There is a reason I don't do it anymore---I don't want to! I will try to step up wherever I can but when it isn't appreciated I get over my 'help out' attitude real quick! We have some really super producers around here and they are good at acquiring help without much asking because they appreciate the contestants and brag on their help. They plan ahead instead of scrambling the day of. Also, like mentioned before a lot of our local 4-H or FFA groups earn money for trips etc by helping. Contestants need to appreciate help that may not know what they are doing and help educate the uneducated instead of sitting in the bleachers complaining.

sorry....kind of went off the track a little. Be the best producer you can and good luck, sometimes people suck!
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