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| I am looking at treatment options for this cut behind the knee. He is under vet care but I am wanting different opinions. We are going on 3 weeks. It was stitched up but as you can tell the stitches pulled out last Thursday. Would you keep it open or wrap? What would you put on it. Luckily I don't have much experience with cuts. Attaching a picture.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | You really won't accomlish much by wrapping. The edema is temporary and cosmetic, more than anything. In fact, wrapping it could reduce the blood supply.....think about it. If the horse is sound, etc...., I think you will be fine. Personally, the best and least expensive way to deal with this is to keep the surface "debrided" of pus, dead tissue, etc.... That way the wound will shrink up/ contract and skin will grow over the top of the beefy red/pink base. Good old elbow grease works well. I'd scrub it with a soft bristle brush, soap, and water. Surgical soap (ie: hibiclens or betadine) works well, but just about any soap will work. Antibiotics probably won't help....not even topical antibiotics. Hose the hell out of it....hydrotherapy. If you want to spray on some topical antiseptic, fine, but it really doesn't matter that much.
I'd say do this a minimum of twice a day, but more is better. You will start to see that pink granulation tissue get beefier and red. That's good. If you keep this up you will see the rate of healing progress more rapidly.
A lot of people swear by a lot of products for wounds, but honestly there's no substitute for elbow grease and a lot of water. The underwoods, vetericyn, etc.... Is fine, but definitely not mandatory, IMO. Good luck! You'll do fine. | |
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  A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Underwoods horse medicine. Spray. Sprinkle some baking powder on it. Repeat two or three times a day. It should be healed up in no time. No need to wash or wrap or scrub. Just spray and sprinkle. That's it.
I've healed some pretty gnarly injuries with Underwoods. It's great for high mobility places since you don't need a wrap or anything.
ETA: If you use Underwoods, do NOT rinse or scrub or wash it at all once your start using it. It's meant to just be left alone while it's healing. You'll notice a scab will form and fall off every few days and you'll see nice new skin underneath. As long as you keep up with it, you shouldn't have any issues with proud flesh.
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Location: ND | Bear - 2015-06-23 6:22 PM You really won't accomlish much by wrapping. The edema is temporary and cosmetic, more than anything. In fact, wrapping it could reduce the blood supply.....think about it. If the horse is sound, etc...., I think you will be fine. Personally, the best and least expensive way to deal with this is to keep the surface "debrided" of pus, dead tissue, etc.... That way the wound will shrink up/ contract and skin will grow over the top of the beefy red/pink base. Good old elbow grease works well. I'd scrub it with a soft bristle brush, soap, and water. Surgical soap (ie: hibiclens or betadine) works well, but just about any soap will work. Antibiotics probably won't help....not even topical antibiotics. Hose the hell out of it....hydrotherapy. If you want to spray on some topical antiseptic, fine, but it really doesn't matter that much. I'd say do this a minimum of twice a day, but more is better. You will start to see that pink granulation tissue get beefier and red. That's good. If you keep this up you will see the rate of healing progress more rapidly. A lot of people swear by a lot of products for wounds, but honestly there's no substitute for elbow grease and a lot of water. The underwoods, vetericyn, etc.... Is fine, but definitely not mandatory, IMO. Good luck! You'll do fine.
AGREED!
This is the most recent bad wound I've had to deal with. I did have to wrap it due to flies & keeping it clean. It took forever to completely heal but there is not a bump on her leg.
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Location: Southern Oregon | Underwoods....it saved my mare twice! She about ripped the entire bulb of her heal off twice. ugh..... Nothing worked until I found underwoods. The owner is super amazing as well and loves to talk horses and treatment help if needed. | |
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| I'm treating a wound on a leg, right above the fetlock joint. Happened May 3. I am wrapping every other day as she will just rub it with her nose all day and the flies are TERRIBLE! I tried Underwoods but she just rubs it off. I leave her tied til its dry but she still rubs it off. I also douse her in fly spray. | |
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| We swear by vetricyn, it's amazing. It did wonders with this injury. We sold the horse before it fully healed, so no after pics, but he ended up going back to the show pen for a few seasons.
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Location: Central Texas | Bear - 2015-06-23 7:22 PM
You really won't accomlish much by wrapping. The edema is temporary and cosmetic, more than anything. In fact, wrapping it could reduce the blood supply.....think about it. If the horse is sound, etc...., I think you will be fine. Personally, the best and least expensive way to deal with this is to keep the surface "debrided" of pus, dead tissue, etc.... That way the wound will shrink up/ contract and skin will grow over the top of the beefy red/pink base. Good old elbow grease works well. I'd scrub it with a soft bristle brush, soap, and water. Surgical soap (ie: hibiclens or betadine) works well, but just about any soap will work. Antibiotics probably won't help....not even topical antibiotics. Hose the hell out of it....hydrotherapy. If you want to spray on some topical antiseptic, fine, but it really doesn't matter that much.
I'd say do this a minimum of twice a day, but more is better. You will start to see that pink granulation tissue get beefier and red. That's good. If you keep this up you will see the rate of healing progress more rapidly.
A lot of people swear by a lot of products for wounds, but honestly there's no substitute for elbow grease and a lot of water. The underwoods, vetericyn, etc.... Is fine, but definitely not mandatory, IMO. Good luck! You'll do fine.
Absolutely, this! My mare cut herself much worse than this on the front side of her hock (in the bend). Gave her a round of antibiotics, followed this procedure and you can barely see the scar. | |
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| Bear - 2015-06-23 7:22 PM
You really won't accomlish much by wrapping. The edema is temporary and cosmetic, more than anything. In fact, wrapping it could reduce the blood supply.....think about it. If the horse is sound, etc...., I think you will be fine. Personally, the best and least expensive way to deal with this is to keep the surface "debrided" of pus, dead tissue, etc.... That way the wound will shrink up/ contract and skin will grow over the top of the beefy red/pink base. Good old elbow grease works well. I'd scrub it with a soft bristle brush, soap, and water. Surgical soap (ie: hibiclens or betadine) works well, but just about any soap will work. Antibiotics probably won't help....not even topical antibiotics. Hose the hell out of it....hydrotherapy. If you want to spray on some topical antiseptic, fine, but it really doesn't matter that much.
I'd say do this a minimum of twice a day, but more is better. You will start to see that pink granulation tissue get beefier and red. That's good. If you keep this up you will see the rate of healing progress more rapidly.
A lot of people swear by a lot of products for wounds, but honestly there's no substitute for elbow grease and a lot of water. The underwoods, vetericyn, etc.... Is fine, but definitely not mandatory, IMO. Good luck! You'll do fine.
Agree 100%!! Not a fan of underwoods, especially anywhere at the knee and below. Water, water, and more water!! | |
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Location: Northwest | Silver Lining Herb's Power Dust and Equisalve. With some Vetricyn thrown in for good measure. Honestly though, the stuff by SLH works miracles, highly recommend. | |
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Location: Idaho | Vinegar, Epson Salt, and warm water! It does wonders! Clean the wound up using a sponge with the vinegar and epson salts and then put some columbia powder on it after you have used the mixture on it! My mom always used about half a small bucket. Just make sure you don't get the water too hot. | |
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Location: North Dakota | Bear - 2015-06-23 7:22 PM You really won't accomlish much by wrapping. The edema is temporary and cosmetic, more than anything. In fact, wrapping it could reduce the blood supply.....think about it. If the horse is sound, etc...., I think you will be fine. Personally, the best and least expensive way to deal with this is to keep the surface "debrided" of pus, dead tissue, etc.... That way the wound will shrink up/ contract and skin will grow over the top of the beefy red/pink base. Good old elbow grease works well. I'd scrub it with a soft bristle brush, soap, and water. Surgical soap (ie: hibiclens or betadine) works well, but just about any soap will work. Antibiotics probably won't help....not even topical antibiotics. Hose the hell out of it....hydrotherapy. If you want to spray on some topical antiseptic, fine, but it really doesn't matter that much. I'd say do this a minimum of twice a day, but more is better. You will start to see that pink granulation tissue get beefier and red. That's good. If you keep this up you will see the rate of healing progress more rapidly. A lot of people swear by a lot of products for wounds, but honestly there's no substitute for elbow grease and a lot of water. The underwoods, vetericyn, etc.... Is fine, but definitely not mandatory, IMO. Good luck! You'll do fine.
I agree with this but have to add that I like to keep the wound soft as well so I will cover with furacin or triple antibiotic ointment, pretty heavy too. It keeps the tissue soft and doesn't allow it to "break apart" between scrubbings, plus, if you can't get it scrubbed for a day or two it still continues to heal and makes it easier to work with when you get back to it.
I'm not a big fan of underwoods but I do have some for wintertime when hydrotherapy is not a good alternative. | |
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Location: NC | If you really want to see a real good case of healing with Underwoods, just send a PM to wyoming barrel racer. She had a colt impale itself on something and rip it's chest open to the windpipe in the dead of winter. She used Underwoods and you can see a faint scar but that's it. It really is amazing stuff. I swear by it and won't use anything else.
Here are just two instances where Underwoods has healed some wounds on mine. The first is a few weeks apart I believe The vet was never called. I just started with Underwoods right away. Left it open. Never scrubbed. Just sprayed, sprinkled, repeat. It healed without any scarring at all.
The second is just one of the hocks of my good gelding. He got tangled up in the wire the colt tore down while he was playing. Tore up both hocks. It took about 3 weeks to heal completely and you can't even tell anything happened. I won't ever be caught without my Underwoods.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Underwoods and baking powder.....and it has to be reapplyed a few times a day....it has worked miracles for me on many occasions..that actually isnt that bad of a wound but its such a bad spot gonna take a bit of time to heal....m
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Location: Ohio | PF Wonder Salve. You can apply it and leave it alone. Will keep the proud flesh off and flies away. No need to try to wrap.
My horse had a similar wound last year. It worked great. | |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | I have good luck with a sugardine paste and ACV and black pepper. I would cold hose the heck out of it and put ACV and pepper on it to keep the flies away. | |
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