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| I think Justice Roberts nailed it in this quote from his dissent:
"If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not Celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | Say bye bye to your states rights, that's for sure. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I see the issues as very different.
in turn, I'm extremely happy about today's decision, however I am unhappy about the decision upholding the affordable care act. |
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| I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare |
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| Obamacare? Hell to the NO.Equal rights? Hell to the YES. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare
44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. |
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| TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare
44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality.Â
I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it.
Celebrate the victory of government endorsing your personal morally but equality it is not. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-06-26 10:18 AM
 I see the issues as very different.Â
in turn, I'm extremely happy about today's decision, however I am unhappy about the decision upholding the affordable care act.Â
I am neither for or against the issue of gay marriage. However SCOTUS just ignored 50,000,000 voters in several states that voted against gay marriage in their States. SCOTUS has never ruled on marriage since 1789 they have left it up to the States and their voters as of today it is now federal. Gay marriage in some form was going to happen either way it was legal in 36 states anyway but this issue is in no way defined under Federal law. They have also left open the issue of Religious objection which is defined under the Constitution. In both cases to me they are rewriting law in their opinions. |
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| TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:48 AM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it.
How isn't it? You can't say crap like that and not support it. They were prevented from doing things based solely on one characteristic. Now they are being given the right they were denied. They can now equally do what every other american citizen can do SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO. If that's not equality, then I don't know what is. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:53 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:48 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it. How isn't it? You can't say crap like that and not support it. They were prevented from doing things based solely on one characteristic. Now they are being given the right they were denied. They can now equally do what every other american citizen can do SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO. If that's not equality, then I don't know what is.
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Location: East Texas | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM
TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare
44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality.Â
I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it.
Your statement that you are a believer that "...anyone that wants to get married should" is kind of broad, isn't it? Do you want to elaborate on exactly who should be able to get married, or more importantly, who shouldn't? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:53 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:48 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it. How isn't it? You can't say crap like that and not support it. They were prevented from doing things based solely on one characteristic. Now they are being given the right they were denied. They can now equally do what every other american citizen can do SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO. If that's not equality, then I don't know what is.
I think he's saying the legal advantages conferred upon married people is not equality in the first place, therefore adding a new class of people to that number only increases the people benefitting from state-sponsored inequality. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I have no idea what the benefits of marriage are, legally speaking, other than inheritance laws and medical next of kin decisions. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-06-26 11:06 AM I think he's saying the legal advantages conferred upon married people is not equality in the first place, therefore adding a new class of people to that number only increases the people benefitting from state-sponsored inequality.
Nailed it... And oh so eloquently. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:53 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:48 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it. How isn't it? You can't say crap like that and not support it. They were prevented from doing things based solely on one characteristic. Now they are being given the right they were denied. They can now equally do what every other american citizen can do SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO. If that's not equality, then I don't know what is.
I think they should be able to share in the great delight of divorce. Can't wait to hear the whining when that happens..LOL |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | horsesinharleton - 2015-06-26 11:06 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:40 AM TXBO - 2015-06-26 11:37 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-06-26 10:28 AM I am so happy over today's decision for equal rights, but I still dislike ObamaCare 44% of the population of the US is unmarried. All this decision does is add a small percentage to the privileged class of state sponsored inequality. I'm a firm believer that anyone who wants to get married should. Anyone who doesn't agree can go blow smoke because their opinion doesn't matter anymore. It's passed, its law, now people can get over it. Your statement that you are a believer that "...anyone that wants to get married should" is kind of broad, isn't it? Do you want to elaborate on exactly who should be able to get married, or more importantly, who shouldn't?
Just wait...people will now be wanting to marry their pets.. |
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| Marriage and state sponsored benefits should have nothing to do with each other. This decision will have a major impact on religious freedom and that is a shame. We are on a very slippery slope. |
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| Scalia's dissents are always interesting to read. This one is rather poignant:
"This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee
of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant
praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important
liberty they asserted in the Declaration of
Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the
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