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Leo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2015-07-01 9:48 AM
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I sold a girl a horse about 10 years ago, maybe even a little longer. She still has him, he's turned into her once in a lifetime horse, and she absolutely loves him.
Fast forward to now, she is in the process of getting a divorce, and her ex husband wants her to pay him for half of the horse. The horse was bought WAY before they were married. She bought the horse from me about 10 years ago and they have only been married maybe 2 years.
She filed for a divorce in the same county that I did for mine. The judge told me that any horses that I owned before the marriage, were mine free and clear, anything that was bought or born during the marriage, we had to split. I told the girl this (since it is the exact same county) and she is going to discuss this with her lawyer.
Here is my question; she asked me to fill out a bill of sale, showing when I sold her the horse, price, etc. My mother is absolutely freaking out. Saying I don't need to get involved, I don't need to make her a bill of sale, they could drag me into this, too much time has passed, blah, blah, blah. Though I don't really see what the problem would be? I would tell the truth, I sold her the horse years ago and there's no reason for me to get into trouble, right? She has his papers, and a transfer was filled out, so if she transferred him (I've never checked) he should be in her name from way back when.
She wants me to meet her Friday and fill out a bill of sale. Should I just do it? Mom's got me worried that I shouldn't....but I'd hate to see her have to pay half for a horse that she bought years and years ago.
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RodeoCowgirl4u
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-07-01 9:53 AM
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I don't see a problem with it but did you have one when you sold her the horse 10 years ago? I am just one of those people who keeps stuff like that "somewhere" in case I ever need it like in this situation. I don't see how they could drag you into it unless the horse was sold for a good amount of money and you didn't report it to the IRS or something.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-07-01 9:53 AM
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If she bought the horse herself, give her a bill of sale.....well at least I would. 
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Leo
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Posted 2015-07-01 9:57 AM
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RodeoCowgirl4u - 2015-07-01 9:53 AM

I don't see a problem with it but did you have one when you sold her the horse 10 years ago? I am just one of those people who keeps stuff like that "somewhere" in case I ever need it like in this situation. I don't see how they could drag you into it unless the horse was sold for a good amount of money and you didn't report it to the IRS or something.

I'm almost positive I did, but I've been married, divorced, and moved about 4 times since then. I lost a LOT of paperwork during the divorce, it was in boxes that he packed up and it ended up with him.

The horse was not sold for a good amount of money, we sold him at a loss just to move him.
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Leo
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Posted 2015-07-01 9:58 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-07-01 9:53 AM

If she bought the horse herself, give her a bill of sale.....well at least I would. 

It was her and her mom, the girl was like 14 or so at the time.
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pinx05
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:00 AM
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I would also give her a bill of sale, if you are telling the truth I don't see how you would be in the wrong. Now, I don't know the legal part of all this but if it were me I would give her one.
 
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-07-01 10:00 AM
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As long as she's not asking you to falsify anything, I'd write one up for her with no problem.  
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TrailGirl
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:28 AM
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Write it up for her. With the date on the transfer papers...there's already a record there. This will make her life easier and the jerk can just deal with it. He is not entitled to half of the value of the horse purchased so long ago before the marriage. And...the horse is older now so odds are it is worth less now?. If it were a vehicle he wouldn't be getting 1/2 of the original purchase price any way. He can pound sand as far as that goes.



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Leo
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:32 AM
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TrailGirl - 2015-07-01 10:28 AM


Write it up for her. With the date on the transfer papers...there's already a record there. This will make her life easier and the jerk can just deal with it. He is not entitled to half of the value of the horse purchased so long ago before the marriage. And...the horse is older now so odds are it is worth less now?. If it were a vehicle he wouldn't be getting 1/2 of the original purchase price any way. He can pound sand as far as that goes.




That was my thought as well. I think he's a 23 yo mean old gelding now...not like he's worth a fortune. The man's just trying to be a jerk and hurt her.
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Peewee212
Reg. Sep 2012
Posted 2015-07-01 10:34 AM
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Ya, I'd probably write her up one too. Also I dont know how she paid but if they wrote a check they could look back and prove it that way also.
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-07-01 10:35 AM
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If you sign a statement that you sold her a horse on a given date I see on problem. However if she is asking you to sign a back dated bill of sale I do.
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roxieannie
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2015-07-01 10:38 AM
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 If she did a transfer, the new registration paper should have dates on it. 
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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:43 AM
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I dont see why she wanted you to write a bill of sale after all this time, why dont she just use his papers, her name is on them was my first thought, but wirte a bill of sale for her if that what she wants, some people have me scratching my head at times. 
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Leo
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:43 AM
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Peewee212 - 2015-07-01 10:34 AM

Ya, I'd probably write her up one too. Also I dont know how she paid but if they wrote a check they could look back and prove it that way also.

We could, but that would be a pain to do. Considering she thinks she bought the horse in 2008 and I'm thinking it was more like 2004...
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Leo
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:44 AM
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roxieannie - 2015-07-01 10:38 AM

 If she did a transfer, the new registration paper should have dates on it. 

I know but I don't know if she ever transferred him, I'll ask her later. He's not AQHA so I can't just look it up.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-01 10:45 AM
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Leo - 2015-07-01 10:43 AM
Peewee212 - 2015-07-01 10:34 AM Ya, I'd probably write her up one too. Also I dont know how she paid but if they wrote a check they could look back and prove it that way also.
We could, but that would be a pain to do. Considering she thinks she bought the horse in 2008 and I'm thinking it was more like 2004...

Tell her to look on his papers the date of the transfer will be on them. 
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Leo
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-07-01 10:43 AM

I dont see why she wanted you to write a bill of sale after all this time, why dont she just use his papers, her name is on them was my first thought, but wirte a bill of sale for her if that what she wants, some people have me scratching my head at times. 

I honestly don't know that she ever turned them in.
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hoofs_in_motion
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:49 AM
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Leo - 2015-07-01 10:32 AM
TrailGirl - 2015-07-01 10:28 AM Write it up for her. With the date on the transfer papers...there's already a record there. This will make her life easier and the jerk can just deal with it. He is not entitled to half of the value of the horse purchased so long ago before the marriage. And...the horse is older now so odds are it is worth less now?. If it were a vehicle he wouldn't be getting 1/2 of the original purchase price any way. He can pound sand as far as that goes.
That was my thought as well. I think he's a 23 yo mean old gelding now...not like he's worth a fortune. The man's just trying to be a jerk and hurt her.

Most men turn into a-holes when things like this happen. I hope the best for her. 
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TrailGirl
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Posted 2015-07-01 10:52 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-07-01 10:49 AM

Leo - 2015-07-01 10:32 AM
TrailGirl - 2015-07-01 10:28 AM Write it up for her. With the date on the transfer papers...there's already a record there. This will make her life easier and the jerk can just deal with it. He is not entitled to half of the value of the horse purchased so long ago before the marriage. And...the horse is older now so odds are it is worth less now?. If it were a vehicle he wouldn't be getting 1/2 of the original purchase price any way. He can pound sand as far as that goes.
That was my thought as well. I think he's a 23 yo mean old gelding now...not like he's worth a fortune. The man's just trying to be a jerk and hurt her.

Most men turn into a-holes when things like this happen. I hope the best for her. 


Most PEOPLE turn into jerks in divorce. I sure don't think the men have the market cornered.
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hoofs_in_motion
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Posted 2015-07-01 11:02 AM
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TrailGirl - 2015-07-01 10:52 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-07-01 10:49 AM
Leo - 2015-07-01 10:32 AM
TrailGirl - 2015-07-01 10:28 AM Write it up for her. With the date on the transfer papers...there's already a record there. This will make her life easier and the jerk can just deal with it. He is not entitled to half of the value of the horse purchased so long ago before the marriage. And...the horse is older now so odds are it is worth less now?. If it were a vehicle he wouldn't be getting 1/2 of the original purchase price any way. He can pound sand as far as that goes.
That was my thought as well. I think he's a 23 yo mean old gelding now...not like he's worth a fortune. The man's just trying to be a jerk and hurt her.
Most men turn into a-holes when things like this happen. I hope the best for her. 
Most PEOPLE turn into jerks in divorce. I sure don't think the men have the market cornered.

Well I was never married and had the same issue with my ex.....so wouldn't know the woman side but thanks
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