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Location: So. Cali | I took my Gelding to the vet a few weeks ago and the vet used hoof testers on him and he showed sore in all 4 feet. He said they look soft so I have been soaking them in epsom salt for 4 days straight then was told to take a break for a few days and then see if he is better. He has also only been visually sore in his left front because he has ring bone. So I am not sure how to tell if he is still sore in the other feet. My vet didn't really have a good answer for why he would be sore in all 4 feet all of a sudden. Also, he is starting the 7 shot adequan loading dose as of last Saturday (For his ringbone bothering him).
I am probably going to get a second opinion since my vet is getting very old. but has anyone had a horse be sore in all 4 feet? What did you do to help it? |
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| Vet said to soak for already soft feet? THat would have the opposite effect. |
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| I have one that has very thin soles. Often he is sore from n all four.
Suggestion----get your farrier to put equipac in his feet. |
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Location: Texas | If your horses feet are soft...STOP SOAKING THEM! Water will only make them softer. Keep him somewhere you can keep his feet dry 24/7. He may be having some low grade laminitis. |
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Location: So. Cali | TBone - 2015-07-01 12:59 PM If your horses feet are soft...STOP SOAKING THEM! Water will only make them softer. Keep him somewhere you can keep his feet dry 24/7. He may be having some low grade laminitis.
Actually the salt dries out their feet and they definitely look harder and feel harder. He stands in a dry area. so standing in wet ground is not the issue. So low grade laminitis is what I was thinking.... how do you detect that? |
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Location: So. Cali | streakysox - 2015-07-01 12:57 PM I have one that has very thin soles. Often he is sore from n all four. Suggestion----get your farrier to put equipac in his feet.
equipac, thanks I will look into it. It is just weird because he is 14 years old and this is the first time his feet are sore, SO I don't think he has thin soles unless that can happen with age? |
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Location: Central Texas | Is he a very easy keeper, over weight, cresty neck etc? |
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| On the Money Girl - 2015-07-01 1:04 PM
TBone - 2015-07-01 12:59 PM If your horses feet are soft...STOP SOAKING THEM! Water will only make them softer. Keep him somewhere you can keep his feet dry 24/7. He may be having some low grade laminitis.
Actually the salt dries out their feet and they definitely look harder and feel harder. He stands in a dry area. so standing in wet ground is not the issue. So low grade laminitis is what I was thinking.... how do you detect that?
xrays will show it.. ALso shows sole debth. My colt had very thin soles from the track. Been 8 months and he is all better
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Location: So. Cali | ampratt - 2015-07-01 1:06 PM Is he a very easy keeper, over weight, cresty neck etc?
very easy keeper, not over weight. |
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Location: So. Cali | FLITASTIC - 2015-07-01 1:07 PM On the Money Girl - 2015-07-01 1:04 PM TBone - 2015-07-01 12:59 PM If your horses feet are soft...STOP SOAKING THEM! Water will only make them softer. Keep him somewhere you can keep his feet dry 24/7. He may be having some low grade laminitis. Actually the salt dries out their feet and they definitely look harder and feel harder. He stands in a dry area. so standing in wet ground is not the issue. So low grade laminitis is what I was thinking.... how do you detect that? xrays will show it.. ALso shows sole debth. My colt had very thin soles from the track. Been 8 months and he is all better
how did he get better? |
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Location: Wisconsin | Can you feel a strong digital pulse in all 4 feet. |
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Location: Kansas | I'm kind of an idiot and I know water makes hooves soft lol! (I'm only kidding with you)
Someone said iodine hardens soles?
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| They say to start with painting betadine on the soles and move up to iodine after a few days. I have been using iodine for a while now on mine. Can't tell you if it's helped because he is in a diaper for a different reason but he's not lame.. |
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Location: Central Texas | On the Money Girl - 2015-07-01 3:10 PM
ampratt - 2015-07-01 1:06 PM Is he a very easy keeper, over weight, cresty neck etc?
very easy keeper, not over weight.
My mare was an easy keeper as well and had always been. Also had sore feet on and off, more so in the spring and fall. I eventually had her tested for EMS and IR. She wasn't out and out diagnosed with either but she had some iffy numbers show up. |
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Location: NE Texas | I had this happen in a mare that had just been brought back from 8 months stall rest due to microfractures in her P2. Started back exercising her and she was sound, continued exercising her and went ahead and put shoes on her. Exercised her more, and the original lameness came back in the left front, which is what she'd been on stall rest for. Re-did the MRI and there was no problem in the right front. We couldn't find any problems structurally at all in that foot. Took her to one more vet as a last resort before I turned her out to be a mommy, and when he blocked her right front, she went off in the left front. Blocked the left front she went off behind...so on and so on. Long story short, the way my farrier was trimming and shoeing her was causing her digital cushion to become compressed and dry. I had her reset by a guy there in TN and she was 90% better immediately. He hooked me up with a guy here in TX and in two more shoeings she was 100%. There was nothing special about the look of this shoe job. No squared toes, no rocker shoes or anything weird. Just a nice, round, balanced foot. Adn when I say balanced, I mean to the millimeter, both laterally and digitally. It took them almost 3 hours to shoe her....not because she was fighting or because they were ultra slow, but both of these guys were surgeons. They never used a rasp, as they were both trained by the same man, and he tought them that the rasp takes too much foot off at a time and once the foot is removed, you can't get it back. They would trim off a little and set the foot down, measure, analyze, pick up and go again until it was perfect. I had to drive 2 hours one way and pay $350 a set for the job but it was worth it on this particular horse.
The digital cushion to me is described as a dense sponge, and the sponge should be filled with blood and thick fluid giving the horse a cushion to stand on between the coffin bone and the sole. If the foot is not completely balanced, the imbalance causes the cushion to collapse and all of the fluid is pushed out creating a thin, brittle, dried out sponge between the coffin bone and the sole. Interesting conversations with these guys! The first time I had her reset by the guy in TX, the mentor was there. For the life of me I can't remember his name, but apparently there is only a handful of these type farriers in the US trained by this one guy, and man are they meticulous! It was very interesting to watch them work!
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Location: So. Cali | pepsi - 2015-07-01 1:13 PM
Can you feel a strong digital pulse in all 4 feet.
I believe he felt a pulse in them yes. I know he could but I'm not sure it was in all four. What does a pulse mean? |
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Location: Desert Land | On the Money Girl - 2015-07-01 1:40 PM pepsi - 2015-07-01 1:13 PM Can you feel a strong digital pulse in all 4 feet. I believe he felt a pulse in them yes. I know he could but I'm not sure it was in all four. What does a pulse mean?
Laminitis - if pulse in all 4 feet. |
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Location: Canada | If your vet doesn't know why all feet would be sore I'd be finding a different vet. Sounds like you have either feed or mechanical laminitis going on. I'd have an xray taken to see what's going on and if you have any rotation going on. |
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Location: So. Cali | TheOldGrayMare - 2015-07-01 1:44 PM On the Money Girl - 2015-07-01 1:40 PM pepsi - 2015-07-01 1:13 PM Can you feel a strong digital pulse in all 4 feet. I believe he felt a pulse in them yes. I know he could but I'm not sure it was in all four. What does a pulse mean?
Thank you. He mentioned laminitis. he is a very old race horse vet.... too old I think. he wanted me to soak them to see if it helped and then we would start X rays and such. I am going to try to find a different vet to do the X rays. I think it may be laminitis. so now I am off to research that. |
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