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Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!

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BRN4CASH
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-07-06 9:58 AM
Subject: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!


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My lil ratey mare is cutting off the turn at about the 3/4 point on 2nd barrel. She is very light & its difficult not to touch her head when this happens. It has costs us some tipped barrels & money. Any thoughts on tuning her & tips to do during the run would be great.
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skeeter 777
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2015-07-06 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!



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Try to keep your inside leg in to her around the turn.  Be patient and go for one more stride before she comes around.  It can be hard because when we are running we try to rush things (at least I do)!

 
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-07-06 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!


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Is she coming back and hitting it with her shoulder, your foot, or hip?

Doing slow work at home keeping the barrel behind your leg completely through the turn and over-exaggerating by taking a few steps deeper at that 3/4 turning point with help remind her that she needs that extra step. When running drive all the way through the turn.
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Just Let Me Run
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-07-06 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!


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I've got a horse that does this on the first barrel. The exercise I do is this (I'll try to explain it well!):
Take a cone, or a bucket, or anything that will give you a target to look at. Place it 8 to 10 feet off the barrel at the point where she is cutting you off. Start with slow pattern work, and drive her allll the way around that cone. You will feel like you're not even turning a barrel, but it encourages her to move her body all the way past that cone. 
Also, make sure you're not tipping her nose in too much. You can lift your inside rein straight up to keep that shoulder up, but also to keep her standing up. Don't pull her head around until you're ready for her to actually turn.
Another exercise to try is when you're on the pattern and doing slow work, and she tries to cut you off, stop her and immediately circle her in a counter arc on the backside of the barrel (away from the barrel). When I start horses on the pattern, I teach them that turning the barrel is their reward, and if they can't do it like they're supposed to, then they don't get to turn.
I hope this makes sense! Let me know if you have any questions.

ETA: You may have to ride two handed a little longer to keep them standing up. I also teach mine that they don't turn until I drop my outside rein and go for the horn. I don't drop my hand until I'm ready for them to come around that barrel.


Edited by Just Let Me Run 2015-07-06 10:26 AM
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achildres
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2015-07-06 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!




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My suggestion for this is, like another poster said, to ride two hands longer. Go two hands until you don't think you can go anymore and then go one more stride. She's loosing momentum around the barrel since she's rating down so hard. I wouldn't be doing much rating exercises at home during slow work. I would over exaggerate the turn in slow work - make your circles nice and big with a proper curve in her body with her nose tipped in. If she tries to cut you off in slow work (again like above poster said) counter arc her away from the barrel and go to the next one - or if she tries to cut you off, at that exact point, pick up her shoulder and tip her nose in and essentially side pass her (with her shoulder up) a few steps away from that spot, then continue her turn.

I hope all that made sense it kinda came out like word vomit.
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BRN4CASH
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-07-06 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Cutting off backside of the turn on 2nd barrel tipping it?!?!


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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE REPLYS;-)
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