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| I have a friend who bought a $15k horse with a multitude of undisclosed health issues from a prominent barrel racer in her area. She did have a vet check but that is another story.
He bucks when he is fresh so he hasn't been any fun for her. She has tried to address his physical problems to give him a chance but now he has a soft tissue injury that isn't healing. Her plan was to get him sound and sell him as a bucker. With the soundness I don't think she can even sell him as anything. The vet said it could be 60 more days or a year. She has already had him up on stall rest for 60 days and no improvement. He is a colored up well bred horse but might as well be grade. He is not visibly lame to the average human. Should she try and give him away in hopes someone will give him a chance? Or take him to the killer sale and have no liability? What would you do? She is done. |
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Location: Kansas | I'd say if she doesn't want him, send him to someone that will give him a chance. I gave my gelding a chance, glad I did |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-07-07 3:30 PM I'd say if she doesn't want him, send him to someone that will give him a chance. I gave my gelding a chance, glad I did
Ditto, there are poeple out who like the challenge. |
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| Several years ago I gave away a horse we paid $17,500 for and placed at several futurities. GAVE him away and never looked back. They ended up nerving him and he won several youth rodeos. In the end he was donated to a university for research.
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Location: So. California | Hmmm... did she 5 panel test him?
If she's not interested in putting more time and $ into him, send him down the road with full disclosure. She might have to give him away, due to his lameness. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Zebra racer - 2015-07-07 3:22 PM
I have a friend who bought a $15k horse with a multitude of undisclosed health issues from a prominent barrel racer in her area. She did have a vet check but that is another story.
He bucks when he is fresh so he hasn't been any fun for her. She has tried to address his physical problems to give him a chance but now he has a soft tissue injury that isn't healing. Her plan was to get him sound and sell him as a bucker. With the soundness I don't think she can even sell him as anything. The vet said it could be 60 more days or a year. She has already had him up on stall rest for 60 days and no improvement. He is a colored up well bred horse but might as well be grade. He is not visibly lame to the average human. Should she try and give him away in hopes someone will give him a chance? Or take him to the killer sale and have no liability? What would you do? She is done.
Depending on age and long term diagnosis - I'd put him down. I can live with that so much better than I can sending one to Mexico......or knowing that he has health issues and watching him get passed around and tormented. |
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Location: Texas | if the horse was truly worth 15,000 when she bought it, i bet someone is willing to buy him cheap and try to fix him. I wouldn't think you would have to completely give him away.. but someone may want to pay a really reduced price with full disclosure and invest the rest in vet care to see what they can get. if you have to give him away, then do it, but i bet you you could get at least a little for him.
actually, that reminds me. I did sell a horse this way once. She did not have any bucking issues but she had a torn sesmoidean ligament that I got tired of trying to deal with. I had worked on her for a year before we even found it, and then probably another year trying to manage it. since it took so long to find, it calcified once we did find it. She was probably a 15-20k barrel horse and I sold her for 2000 to someone specifically wanting a fixer upper. They did invest some money in working on her but got her back to running 1D. Mare even turned out from under the girl at one race LOL
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | If he's dangerous and in pain, why not just put him down? His story isn't going to go with him and he could end up getting someone hurt or killed by sending him down the road. I don't know why people think euthanasia is such a horrible end for horses like this.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Your saying that your friend is trying to get this horse sound so she can sell him as a bucking horse, how bad of a bucker is he? How experience of a rider is she? If hes just cold back and fixable to being not lame I would see about finding someone that would want to take a chance on him, he dont sound dangerous to me being a cold back horse unless hes a dirty bucker and does his bucking out of the blue to hurt someone. How long has she had this horse? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | MS2011 - 2015-07-07 3:39 PM
Zebra racer - 2015-07-07 3:22 PM
I have a friend who bought a $15k horse with a multitude of undisclosed health issues from a prominent barrel racer in her area. She did have a vet check but that is another story.
He bucks when he is fresh so he hasn't been any fun for her. She has tried to address his physical problems to give him a chance but now he has a soft tissue injury that isn't healing. Her plan was to get him sound and sell him as a bucker. With the soundness I don't think she can even sell him as anything. The vet said it could be 60 more days or a year. She has already had him up on stall rest for 60 days and no improvement. He is a colored up well bred horse but might as well be grade. He is not visibly lame to the average human. Should she try and give him away in hopes someone will give him a chance? Or take him to the killer sale and have no liability? What would you do? She is done.
Depending on age and long term diagnosis - I'd put him down. I can live with that so much better than I can sending one to Mexico......or knowing that he has health issues and watching him get passed around and tormented.
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Putting him down rather than sending him to Mexico. No horse deserves that. |
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Location: North Carolina | Depending on your location, I'd take the horse in a heartbeat. I absolutely love a fixer upper. I've worked with many horses with bucking issues & long term lameness issues. I do not think this horse needs to be put down or shipped to some kill buyer. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | PM me details |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Find someone that will give him a chance. Some people are patient enough to wait out lamenesses and some horses just need a different rider. |
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Location: Montana | Advertise him on here with full disclosure and ask for offers. Make them sign something that they are getting a lame horse that bucks. Someone might have a year to invest in him healing up. |
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Location: Missouri | I advertised my bucker on here for cheap. I got a million more phone calls/emails on her than I have on my very sound, very broke colt. I had the new owner (agent) sign a paper saying that I had disclosed she bucked for unknown reasons. I don't know if it would matter legally, but it made me feel better. Supposedly, the new owner loves her... |
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Location: Central Texas | GoMistyGo - 2015-07-07 5:49 PM
MS2011 - 2015-07-07 3:39 PM
Zebra racer - 2015-07-07 3:22 PM
I have a friend who bought a $15k horse with a multitude of undisclosed health issues from a prominent barrel racer in her area. She did have a vet check but that is another story.
He bucks when he is fresh so he hasn't been any fun for her. She has tried to address his physical problems to give him a chance but now he has a soft tissue injury that isn't healing. Her plan was to get him sound and sell him as a bucker. With the soundness I don't think she can even sell him as anything. The vet said it could be 60 more days or a year. She has already had him up on stall rest for 60 days and no improvement. He is a colored up well bred horse but might as well be grade. He is not visibly lame to the average human. Should she try and give him away in hopes someone will give him a chance? Or take him to the killer sale and have no liability? What would you do? She is done.
Depending on age and long term diagnosis - I'd put him down. I can live with that so much better than I can sending one to Mexico......or knowing that he has health issues and watching him get passed around and tormented.
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Putting him down rather than sending him to Mexico. No horse deserves that.
Give him to someone else if they want the challenge or put him down. It makes me sick when people choose a killer buyer over putting one down. No animal deserves that treatment and honestly I don't understand horse owners who think that's an option. That's my opinion and others are entitled to disagree. |
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Location: /ARKANSAS | What did the vet say?
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Location: Central Montana | ampratt - 2015-07-08 6:02 AM GoMistyGo - 2015-07-07 5:49 PM MS2011 - 2015-07-07 3:39 PM Zebra racer - 2015-07-07 3:22 PM I have a friend who bought a $15k horse with a multitude of undisclosed health issues from a prominent barrel racer in her area. She did have a vet check but that is another story. He bucks when he is fresh so he hasn't been any fun for her. She has tried to address his physical problems to give him a chance but now he has a soft tissue injury that isn't healing. Her plan was to get him sound and sell him as a bucker. With the soundness I don't think she can even sell him as anything. The vet said it could be 60 more days or a year. She has already had him up on stall rest for 60 days and no improvement. He is a colored up well bred horse but might as well be grade. He is not visibly lame to the average human. Should she try and give him away in hopes someone will give him a chance? Or take him to the killer sale and have no liability? What would you do? She is done. Depending on age and long term diagnosis - I'd put him down. I can live with that so much better than I can sending one to Mexico......or knowing that he has health issues and watching him get passed around and tormented. That... Putting him down rather than sending him to Mexico. No horse deserves that. Give him to someone else if they want the challenge or put him down. It makes me sick when people choose a killer buyer over putting one down. No animal deserves that treatment and honestly I don't understand horse owners who think that's an option. That's my opinion and others are entitled to disagree.
I agree with putting down.
I have a gelding with navicular, over the past 2 years I've spent thousands of dollars diagnosing him and treating him. I've tried about everything short of de-nerving him to get him back in the reining pen. He is trail sound, so very broke, and a blast to ride. But I would not sell him or give him away, I will put him down if it gets to that point. There are too many people who would not take care of him to keep him at least where he is now, including being shod ever 5 weeks all year round.
To the OP - Because the owner doesn't know exactly what is wrong with him, someone would have to be willing to go into the situation knowing they may be out a lot of $$ just getting a diagnosis and then possibly a lot more $$$ treating the issue.....trusting somone to do what is right and not just run a hurting horse in to the ground is impossible......those types of people are hard to find. |
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| He is just cold backed and maybe now it appears he was sore so that may not have helped. She has had him a few years and only ran him 5 times each year at most.
She is worried of liability. Today she is thinking euthanasia. I will share the messages I have received with her. Thanks for your input. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Zebra racer - 2015-07-08 11:10 AM He is just cold backed and maybe now it appears he was sore so that may not have helped. She has had him a few years and only ran him 5 times each year at most. She is worried of liability. Today she is thinking euthanasia. I will share the messages I have received with her. Thanks for your input.
Has his back ever been x-rayed for kissing spine? |
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