CanCan - 2015-07-17 2:43 PM

Ohhh, the bandwagon drove by your place, but you didn't call me? 
Edited to say - I'm sorry. That may be socially inappropriate, but I'm not going to force my horse to inhale anything that doesn't come from my vet. Lungs are important.

CanCan - 2015-07-17 2:43 PM Ohhh, the bandwagon drove by your place, but you didn't call me? 

Edited to say - I'm sorry. That may be socially inappropriate, but I'm not going to force my horse to inhale anything that doesn't come from my vet. Lungs are important.

Herbie - 2015-07-17 3:09 PM


^^^^This, exactly.  Isn't it terrifying to think about the question the original OP is asking when thinking about the thousands of horses using the same unit at a big show, one after the other, and the only thing that has been cleaned or sterilized is the mask that goes over their nose?!?!?!?!  Not to mention what contaminants are in the air from the dusty barns and arenas we are at and then forced forced into our horse's lungs.  I'll pass.   

imturnin3 - 2015-07-17 9:15 AM

I went on their site and read and viewed everthing but What do you sanitize it with after use? Alcohol whipes? And how often do you change the tubing and medicine cups?

imturnin3 - 2015-07-17 8:15 AM I went on their site and read and viewed everthing but What do you sanitize it with after use? Alcohol whipes? And how often do you change the tubing and medicine cups?

RoadToVegas - 2015-07-17 3:13 PM Sounds like the OP bought her own unit not sure how you got "thousands of other horses using the same unit"

AfleetEquine - 2015-07-17 3:16 PM


It should have come with some cleaner called "PURE" Spray it down completely, flip it upside down so that it saturates the rubber creases as well, wait for five minutes, wipe it down. I actually do this TWICE before I switch to another horse, my own horses or not.

Do NOT use alcohol wipes. It is recommended to only use the cleaner provided. This is used in major healthcare and food industries to ensure sanitization and is SAFE.

imturnin3 - 2015-07-17 3:33 PM Nope, I am no band wagon jumper, never even seen a unit at a show , and I don't plan on using it on another horse other than my own. my horse has a Respiratory condition similar to asthma. that he could benefit from this type of treatment. it is an accumulation of months of research on my part, I have looked up case studies, because I feel you should never go by web site testimonials. I have talked to race horse owners, trainers who use this, member of a board all over the country such as this one! In conjunction with all my vets (3) who are track vets that have handled my horses case. As well as my sister n law who child has asthma.And implements regular nebulizer treatments. So no lady I do my home work! chelated and colloidal silver has been used for centuries! And has been used for years in the horse industry to fight off bacteria and microbial that have become resistant. I had also spoke to quite a few people who drink silver water as a health regime for water cleansing up in Alaska. Do you even know the chemical and mechanical process it takes to create cheated or colloidal silver? And do you know iron is an actual metal that you ingest every time you eat fruit loops honey! So no I have not jumped of that wagon, I analyze how many steps it would take to step off. So excuse me for searching for options on aiding in my horse relief!

Herbie - 2015-07-17 3:55 PM

I realize that, that's why I said isnt it terrifying to think of them (vendors) using the same unit at a show, not her particular unit.  At every show I have been to I have seen at least one vendor set up to treat horse after horse, and i've yet to see the filter or hoses removed, replaced, or cleaned.  I've also see individuals use it on their horse, then their friends horse, then sisters horse, etc.  Not to mention if you're treating your horse, and my horse walks by and coughs or sneezes, and let's just say for arguments sake he has been exposed to EHV, but has no outward symptoms, and your machine sucks it in.  I know that's a long shot, but I think there are alot (NOT ALL) of people out there who are using this product negligently and potentially spreading bacteria form horse to horse, all while thinking they are doing the right thing. 

I can see the benefits of using something like this in a sterile environment after every single piece of it has been thoroughly cleaned with heat, disinfectant, and water between each patient and before each new patient to ensure every single piece is bacteria free.  I'm also not 100% convinced that even on just a personal (1 horse) use basis, that there even is a filter, and if there is, is it removeable?  Has the filter been tested to trap small particles suchs as dust and mold spores?  If so, where are those results?   If none of these particular tests on the machine and filter have been done, then what is keeping dust particles, mold spores, etc from going in through the intake, up the tube, and into the mask, resulting in a horse being spoon fed, basically, the very same contaminants we try so hard to keep them away form, except in this case we are pushing them deep into the lung so that it's sure to cause problems at some point.  

I'm not saying i'm right here, but I have read alot about this system because I too had a horse that was battling severe respiratory conditions.  While out of my care, he received several treatments from the Equi-Resp system, and in 3 weeks of that, I had a horse that was in full blown respiratory distress.  I'm not saying that the machine was the cause of his condition worsening, but I can absolutely say without question it did not help.  

I view it similarly to chap stick.  People who use chap stick and carry it in their pockets always seem to have chapped lips.  They tend to use their chap stick several times throughout the day, and seemingly the more they use it, the more they need it.  They can't function without their chap stick.  I think this fad of nebulizers is similar to that.  I think there is a place for them where they can and are beneficial, but that place is not in a dusty barn or in a pasture by your trailer, and it's certainly not in a stall barn full of potentially sick horses being used by horse, after horse, after horse. 

To each his own, but I choose to find out what is causing the inflammation and mucous in the lungs and airways and treat that first.  Once the inflammation is eliminated, the breathing issues resolve with proper maintenance, control of environment, and exercise tolerance.    

 

Herbie - 2015-07-17 3:55 PM I realize that, that's why I said isnt it terrifying to think of them (vendors) using the same unit at a show, not her particular unit.  At every show I have been to I have seen at least one vendor set up to treat horse after horse, and i've yet to see the filter or hoses removed, replaced, or cleaned.  I've also see individuals use it on their horse, then their friends horse, then sisters horse, etc.  Not to mention if you're treating your horse, and my horse walks by and coughs or sneezes, and let's just say for arguments sake he has been exposed to EHV, but has no outward symptoms, and your machine sucks it in.  I know that's a long shot, but I think there are alot (NOT ALL) of people out there who are using this product negligently and potentially spreading bacteria form horse to horse, all while thinking they are doing the right thing. 



I can see the benefits of using something like this in a sterile environment after every single piece of it has been thoroughly cleaned with heat, disinfectant, and water between each patient and before each new patient to ensure every single piece is bacteria free.  I'm also not 100% convinced that even on just a personal (1 horse) use basis, that there even is a filter, and if there is, is it removeable?  Has the filter been tested to trap small particles suchs as dust and mold spores?  If so, where are those results?   If none of these particular tests on the machine and filter have been done, then what is keeping dust particles, mold spores, etc from going in through the intake, up the tube, and into the mask, resulting in a horse being spoon fed, basically, the very same contaminants we try so hard to keep them away form, except in this case we are pushing them deep into the lung so that it's sure to cause problems at some point.  



I'm not saying i'm right here, but I have read alot about this system because I too had a horse that was battling severe respiratory conditions.  While out of my care, he received several treatments from the Equi-Resp system, and in 3 weeks of that, I had a horse that was in full blown respiratory distress.  I'm not saying that the machine was the cause of his condition worsening, but I can absolutely say without question it did not help.  



I view it similarly to chap stick.  People who use chap stick and carry it in their pockets always seem to have chapped lips.  They tend to use their chap stick several times throughout the day, and seemingly the more they use it, the more they need it.  They can't function without their chap stick.  I think this fad of nebulizers is similar to that.  I think there is a place for them where they can and are beneficial, but that place is not in a dusty barn or in a pasture by your trailer, and it's certainly not in a stall barn full of potentially sick horses being used by horse, after horse, after horse. 



To each his own, but I choose to find out what is causing the inflammation and mucous in the lungs and airways and treat that first.  Once the inflammation is eliminated, the breathing issues resolve with proper maintenance, control of environment, and exercise tolerance.    



 

rachellyn80 - 2015-07-17 4:35 PM


I'm with you.  I've heard about more lung infections this year than I can ever remember in the past.  The horses that it's "working" on don't ever get run enough or exert themselves enough to truly test it's efficacy.  It's never seemed like a good idea to me.

AfleetEquine - 2015-07-17 9:46 PM

Why do people act like nebulizers are new? They aren't. They just made them more affordable now! Nebulizers used to be over $5,000!
They have been around for years, and used by vets!