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Location: Iowa | The local NBHA is having a hard time getting girls to attend the races. The races only have 30-50 girls run and we used to have 50-70 girls, our youth is also dwindling significantly. They pay out 80% each race and also have points that count towards year end awards. They are also BBR and Bonus Race approved.
I would love to gather some input to help them out! What drives you to attend a certain barrel race? What do you want out of a barrel race? Do you prefer weeknight or a weekend during the day?
Of course there is always good ground so that is not a concern! Thank you in advance! Cannot wait for everyone's input on how to improve the local NBHA runs!
Edited by Rausch_Jessica 2015-07-17 11:48 AM
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 Experienced Mouse Trapper
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Location: North Dakota | In my area almost every race is considered "the one to go to" however, if there is a non grateful, bragging producer, that is a MAJOR turn off for me and I won't go back especially when a producer looks at my horses papers (to verify age) and says to me in a snotty voice "do you like him??" NOPE...my intent is to torture both the horse and me to prove how dumb he is....
sorry for the rant, just make sure you're gracious, on time and fair. People will come and then tell their friends......
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| Have the draw posted in a timely manner and start on time!!! |
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Extreme Veteran
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| Tried to add something to list and messed it up big time - sorry about that! I meant money paid out for the day and not year end award or average money. |
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Posts: 617
Location: London Ontario | I agree with what has been said but I also like when there are cool prizes. And some of them can be random as well. I have gotten about 500,000 embroidered halters, sheets, etc, but throw in some BOT, Gift cards, etc and count me in! |
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Posts: 825
| Aside from good ground and well run shows (which should be a given), good added money with reasonable fees and progressive payout will bring folks to shows in my area. However, at an NBHA sanctioned event you have to pay the NBHA payout in those classes, so progressive is out of the question. Other than that I'm not sure what would draw a crowd in your area, we have a rather large district (100ish members) so our smallest shows have anywhere from 70-80 in the Open. Good luck! |
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 Reaching for the stars....
Posts: 12708
| Timely start. Limit the exhibitions to a reasonable number. CHARGE those who go over 60 seconds instead of mouthing the rule and nothing happens. Pay back fairly -- I attended a $50 added 36 entry show, won the 3D, got a check for $140; attended a $1000 added 130 entry show, won the 3D, got a check for $171. Something wrong in that math!! Get the ground good. Nothing worse than ground you know has hurt many horses.
Someone go talk IBRA and NBHA into cooperating to a 1 run Open, pay either or both entry fee. Same with Youth and Senior/Master. I dropped out of IBRA because I got tired of getting home after 1am consistently after leaving home at 5am for the show.
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  Keeper of the King Snake
Posts: 7622
Location: Dubach, LA | NBHA needs to update. The payout they use is less than most producers pay. The random draw at runs fewer than 100 is stupid. The "have to be entered before the first horse runs" rule doesn't work either. |
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Keeper of the King Snake
Posts: 7622
Location: Dubach, LA | In my area, NBHA can't compete with BBR. BBR finals are closer, better payout and prizes, so folks follow the BBR points instead of NBHA. Very few racers that qualified ever made the drive to NBHA finals anyway. |
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Veteran
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| Starting on time is a huge deal for me!! I hate showing up to a race on time and then waiting 30-45 mins after start time waiting for the race to even start! |
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Posts: 12841
| FlyingJT - 2015-07-17 11:44 AM
Have the draw posted in a timely manner and start on time!!!
That is important to me too. Have rules well established as to working etc. Keep points up to date and public so everyone can see. I do not go where the points are not publicly displayed. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
Posts: 8555
Location: sunny california | around here you better have co-sanctions so racers can get qualifications for multiple associations on the same gas tank/run |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | Added money, practical prizes (BOT wraps, buckets of SNM, etc.), START ON TIME, posted early draw, and then a late draw for those who entered late.
I have to drive two or more hours to any race worth running at (I live in southern Oregon) and so added money that will at least pay back my entry fees/fuel is the most drawing factor for me - all the others are just perks. |
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 A Lady with Fight
Posts: 2701
Location: NC | If it's going to be NBHA sanctioned, you have to offer the money. That's the only thing that will bring people into an NBHA event that normally don't care to run for points. Otherwise they won't really care much about it.
Weekends with big money and good ground. |
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| You have to consider the economy
A double header may be more beneficial as the racers can then get two runs in for the same fuel.
I would look at entry fee costs and compare to others in the area to make sure the prices is competative.
Perhaps with a double header you can reduce the fees by a few dollars
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Elite Veteran
Posts: 1131
| You about can't pay people to go to NBHA events here in Indiana. They have burnt us several times, so IBRA is huge here. The few events we do have that are NBHA are almost always also IBRA and GBRA. Rarely will NBHA have a show around here without a name on the showbill that hasn't made people mad. haha
Added money really helps too, plus good ground is a must. No one wants to go run and risk hurting their horse for a jackpot. |
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| Also if it is a possibility to co sanction with another event this may draw others
To have extra side pots will be able to draw in more such as a slot race, a futurity side pot (not sure if nbha already includes this) a 3d pole bending jackpot
Again it is more chances to win more bang for your drive
Edited by cheryl makofka 2015-07-17 10:19 PM
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Posts: 1611
| MONEY
Added money!
Don't cut exhibitions let em run until your advertised start time and even then push it a lil more and ADD THAT MONEY
Build up your district's account, work hard and get sponsors which is always hard because its usually the same ppl giving year after year, and find the venues with the best facilities that cost the least amount to you.
Get a good ground crew, gate, and sign up ppl. Please have all of these ppl ready and organized!
Also another thing you can do is Calcutta, or give out tickets as ppl pay their gate fee then half way through the show draw out the tickets and give like $50 bucks to whoever gets it...it actually entices random ppl to come watch who aren't running anymore.
If you do a 3 day please remember for these lil shows that ppl work and I'll save my vacation days for big shows unless they lil shows pay a decent amount so remember that when you do your start times.
Our local NBHA has been starting exhibitions at 10 and show at 2 in the middle of this heat. Its lost them ppl! Do it at night when its hot....who cares what time you'll get outta there or if you have to pay an extra $100 on the arena rental you will usually make it back in entries.
One big thing that hurts is NBHA just doesn't pay back local or big. The fees are crazy high and no pay back hardly. |
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Troll Buster
Posts: 6045
| Another thing, make sure the office staff is friendly. The last few races I have gone to around here have had nothing but rude and snarky office staff that make it tough for everyone...
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Miracle in the Making
Posts: 4013
| nicole.b - 2015-07-17 7:18 PM Starting on time is a huge deal for me!! I hate showing up to a race on time and then waiting 30-45 mins after start time waiting for the race to even start!
heck try 2 and 3 hrs here granted i can/t ride anymore but i don/t go anmore as the alweays start 2 and 3 hrs late
they say not before 2pm so maybe around 6 pm they start
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