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rodeochick123
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-07-21 2:11 PM
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Okay guys I got my hands on a nice horse and figure I'll try out the rodeo life. I'm not gonna be going hard by no means trying for the nfr lol but just looking for advice... How to enter and stuff ? I know you have to buy a permit right? Do you call in like a week before ?? And to who? Help lol
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FLITASTIC
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The best advice I can give you is find a WPRA card holder and become great friends! It can get complicated some times. You enter rodeos through a central entry system called PROCOM. If you go to the WPRA website ( WPRA.com), look under SCHEDULE. You will see all the rodeos listed by month. Click on one and take a look at how the entry system works. Some rodeos only take card holders, some allow permits, etc. For each rodeo it has EOO: Entries open and EC: Entries close dates. For some rodeos you have to enter weeks ahead of time, some smaller local rodeos stay open until just a few days before the rodeo. Hope this helps, but best advice is to talk to and learn from a pro. Yes, you need to buy a permit. Once you win $1000 then you can buy your procard.

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rodeochick123 - 2015-07-21 3:11 PM Okay guys I got my hands on a nice horse and figure I'll try out the rodeo life. I'm not gonna be going hard by no means trying for the nfr lol but just looking for advice... How to enter and stuff ? I know you have to buy a permit right? Do you call in like a week before ?? And to who? Help lol

dumb question  have you rodeo/ at all if not  start at a local or ipra  or a regional circut to get ur feet wet 
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-07-21 8:28 PM
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I have no advice, but CONGRATULATIONS !
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Sangria
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-07-21 11:04 PM
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 Congratulations on your new horse

I would start with open and amateur rodeos. There you will get experience and meet many others, some who stay local and some who go to WPRA. Use that experince and connections before buying a permit. By then you will have a good feeling of what to do, how to proceed or who to get to help you with entering

Good luck

 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-07-22 7:00 AM
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 I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.

 
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Sangria
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-07-22 8:22 AM
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.

 That is true, but your daughter had past rodeo experince by competing in high school & youth rodeos. You also knew the caliber of horse and rider and that they could handle the pressure and crowds.

Maybe I read her post wrong, but based on her questions I got the feeling she has not been around rodeos and it will be new to her
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Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-07-22 8:40 AM
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I've never done WPRA rodeo, so can't help there! But a couple years ago I bought my permit so I could go to the PESI futurities. I can't remember for sure, so double-check me, but look to see if a new permit is required for each year. You don't want to buy one now and only have a little bit of time before you'll have to spend the money for another one.
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Sangria - 2015-07-22 8:22 AM
SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
 That is true, but your daughter had past rodeo experince by competing in high school & youth rodeos. You also knew the caliber of horse and rider and that they could handle the pressure and crowds.



Maybe I read her post wrong, but based on her questions I got the feeling she has not been around rodeos and it will be new to her

^^^^ THIS.....to suggest that a person with absolutely NO rodeo experience AND a new horse should just jump into the WPRA is a little premature.....
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Sangria - 2015-07-22 8:22 AM

SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.

 That is true, but your daughter had past rodeo experince by competing in high school & youth rodeos. You also knew the caliber of horse and rider and that they could handle the pressure and crowds.

Maybe I read her post wrong, but based on her questions I got the feeling she has not been around rodeos and it will be new to her

I agree. Unless you've highschool and college rodeoed and been competitive at it, and can be a major contender at large and small jackpots, the rodeo world is going to come as a major shock. I've seen a lot of jackpot horses that go haywire at a rodeo, and plenty super rodeo horses clocking 2D at big shows. It's just two different deals!
There's some pretty fantastic associations out there that are a little easier to navigate, like CPRA and IPRA. Local Open Pros can help season your horse and your brain. Once you get the knack of winnng that type of stuff, it should be a smoother transition. I've never bought my WPRA permit, since I don't get to haul much, I didn't want to pour away the money. BUT I love CPRAs etc to get my fix, if you're just looking to get your feet wet and see if you and your horse can handle the pressure, a smaller association is where I'd start. Don't get me wrong, there's some major players in those smaller associations, if you can outrun the girls there, then you're probably ready for the road.
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Okay guys I got my hands on a nice horse and figure I'll try out the rodeo life. I'm not gonna be going hard by no means trying for the nfr lol but just looking for advice... How to enter and stuff ? I know you have to buy a permit right? Do you call in like a week before ?? And to who? Help lol

How to Enter: If you go to WPRA's site and view the rodeo schedule, you can search by month or by circuit (location) of each rodeo that is WPRA approved. Make sure to note which ones say Card holders AND permit holders since you would be a permit holder to begin with until you win $1000 (some rodeos are Card holder only). View the Call in dates when they open and when they close. All entries are done through Procom. You will get a callback after the entries have closed to find out which day you will run so you will know ahead of time (if it is a multiple day rodeo).

Yes you must buy a permit first, once you win $1000 from any WPRA approved event (rodeo or approved barrel race) you can then buy your card

Keep in mind that you cannot run on a filled permit, so once you hit your $1000 mark, you either have to buy another permit, or purchase your card. I would suggest if you do fill your permit right away, at this time of year, I would probably either buy permit again (i think you can do that? someone correct me if im wrong) or don't enter rodeos until you can compete for next year. You will then have a full year on your Card if you wait to win money your Rookie year.

It is your decision if you want to do WPRA's or not, don't let others discourage you to not give it a try. Yes they are tougher competition, but hey if you got a tough horse also you might as well play!
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SKM
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 Around here the same girls enter the ammy's as WPRA. By going WPRA all you are gaining is better pay and better run rodeo's. Plus you have the added benefit of being able to learn money on your permit if you are at a jackpot that is WPRA sanctioned. Everyone is intimidated by going pro and it shouldn't be that way. Smaller circuit rodeo's are no big deal.
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Posted 2015-07-22 1:35 PM
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.

Can you elaborate any?  I've been running in an ammy association this year and keep thinking I should have gone WPRA.  The entry fees are about the same, but the adm at WPRA is way higher.  Also seems like the ground is better and they are closer for me...  Only difference is the WPRA permit is about 2x what the ammy membership is. 
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linds - 2015-07-22 1:35 PM
SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
Can you elaborate any?  I've been running in an ammy association this year and keep thinking I should have gone WPRA.  The entry fees are about the same, but the adm at WPRA is way higher.  Also seems like the ground is better and they are closer for me...  Only difference is the WPRA permit is about 2x what the ammy membership is. 

 I would suggest that you check out the 2015 standings charts of the WPRA to see if it would be cost effective to go to them……….You can certainly tell by those charts, for some, it is NOT cost effective for many to join WPRA…..very little winnings for a large number of rodeos….plus you have to factor in your traveling costs.
 
http://www.wpra.com/standings_nfr.php
 
http://www.wpra.com/standings_circuit.php
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
Can you elaborate any?  I've been running in an ammy association this year and keep thinking I should have gone WPRA.  The entry fees are about the same, but the adm at WPRA is way higher.  Also seems like the ground is better and they are closer for me...  Only difference is the WPRA permit is about 2x what the ammy membership is. 
 I would suggest that you check out the 2015 standings charts of the WPRA to see if it would be cost effective to go to them……….You can certainly tell by those charts, for some, it is NOT cost effective for many to join WPRA…..very little winnings for a large number of rodeos….plus you have to factor in your traveling costs.

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_nfr.php

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_circuit.php

 Oh, I fully understand this is not going to be profitable.  I'm already paying entry fees and fuel going to the ammy's.  Do the prca's run smoother, better prepared, ground better, etc?  SKM said the difference was night and day - just looking for details on that.
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
Can you elaborate any?  I've been running in an ammy association this year and keep thinking I should have gone WPRA.  The entry fees are about the same, but the adm at WPRA is way higher.  Also seems like the ground is better and they are closer for me...  Only difference is the WPRA permit is about 2x what the ammy membership is. 
 I would suggest that you check out the 2015 standings charts of the WPRA to see if it would be cost effective to go to them……….You can certainly tell by those charts, for some, it is NOT cost effective for many to join WPRA…..very little winnings for a large number of rodeos….plus you have to factor in your traveling costs.

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_nfr.php

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_circuit.php
 Oh, I fully understand this is not going to be profitable.  I'm already paying entry fees and fuel going to the ammy's.  Do the prca's run smoother, better prepared, ground better, etc?  SKM said the difference was night and day - just looking for details on that.

I don't think they Pro rodeos are any better than Ammy's everywhere.  I have been to both in Colorado where KMC is from and she is right on that account there.

I have also been to both in Utah and they are right about the same.  The pro shows may pay deaper but they get the same girls at both and you can win just as much as both.  
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Posted 2015-07-22 8:37 PM
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SKM - 2015-07-22 7:00 AM  I respectfully disagree with going to open or amateur rodeo's first. We forced our daughter to go WPRA from day one. This is her third year. A few weeks ago she went to see some friends at an amateur rodeo. She said the difference was night and day and that she was really glad we forced her to go pro instead of starting of ammy like she wanted. If you do WPRA, the first thing you need to decide is what circuit you want to declare. A lot of times the circuit you ate in might not have the closest rodeos. BUT be aware that if you designate a circuit you don't reside in, you will need to go to more circuit rodeos than those who live in that circuit. This could become a big deal if you are sitting in the standings for Circuit Finals. Become organized if you aren't. My daughter has a day timer and desk calendar for keeping track of rodeos, when entries open and when they close. Everything is color coded. She puts all the rodeos she wants to enter on the calendar to get a feel for the best days to try for. She ALWAYS has the day timer with her with when entries open and close so she doesn't miss entering. She then figures out her mileage each weekend and goes with $3 per gallon and 10 miles per gallon. It's a little high but better to figure too much than too little. Most pro rodeos have Hospitality tents so you get a free meal. Some smaller ones don't, but the larger ones do. Very helpful for a starving rodeo bum, lol! I would encourage you to invest in a Garmin. They are much nicer than the GPS on a smart phone. We'd be lost without hers. If you are planning on claiming your rodeos on your income tax, get a small pocketed folder for receipts. Get a small day timer for your mileage and track all of it. You might also look into getting cheap business cards printed to show you are serious about trying to earn a living. Most girls are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask where the entry office is or any other question you might be unsure of. Everyone has to start somewhere and most rodeo people remember what it was like to be new at it.
Can you elaborate any?  I've been running in an ammy association this year and keep thinking I should have gone WPRA.  The entry fees are about the same, but the adm at WPRA is way higher.  Also seems like the ground is better and they are closer for me...  Only difference is the WPRA permit is about 2x what the ammy membership is. 
 I would suggest that you check out the 2015 standings charts of the WPRA to see if it would be cost effective to go to them……….You can certainly tell by those charts, for some, it is NOT cost effective for many to join WPRA…..very little winnings for a large number of rodeos….plus you have to factor in your traveling costs.

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_nfr.php

 

http://www.wpra.com/standings_circuit.php
 Oh, I fully understand this is not going to be profitable.  I'm already paying entry fees and fuel going to the ammy's.  Do the prca's run smoother, better prepared, ground better, etc?  SKM said the difference was night and day - just looking for details on that.

I don't think they Pro rodeos are any better than Ammy's everywhere.  I have been to both in Colorado where KMC is from and she is right on that account there.

I have also been to both in Utah and they are right about the same.  The pro shows may pay deaper but they get the same girls at both and you can win just as much as both.  

What is it about Colorado that makes the statements more correct than Utah? I live in CO and eventually I'd like to get into ammys or wpra as well but this post really caught my attention with the mention of CO.
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