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any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?

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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-08-04 12:39 PM
Subject: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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Got my horse injected 2 weeks ago to the day, right off the bat he was great, every day he was better and better. As of last Tuesday, I was supposed to start tapering him off of bute to 1 gram every other day. he was doing well today was the day I'm supposed to start the '1 gram every 2 days' but he came out of his stall back to what he looked like before he was injected. no fever, no swelling, just the same hobbly walk he had before injections. farrier suggested some clear plasticy/rubbery shoes (im not really sure, and I plain don't care.) put those on and he seems more comfortable immediately following, of course that was less then an hour ago. Planning to call my vet tomorrow in the morning if there is no change. but would like advice and experienced people to commentate on the matter.


This is my first time in my horse career getting a horse injected. I'm emotionally tapped over this whole situation, and I don't know what to do. Is there any reason this would suddenly stop working?

He was injected with HA and something that started with a "T" I can't remember off the top.
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-08-04 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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Sounds like he was getting the relief from the bute and not from the injection. Why was the coffin joint injected? Did you get xrays? I've injected coffin joints before, and I was told to give 2 grams of bute for 3 days, so it seems like you were prescribed a lot of bute. If we were having front foot pain we would start with coffin joint injections. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. If not, then we would try the navicular bursae.
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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-08-04 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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Yes, we have several of each foot on a machine with a very good resolution and he has a large bone spur on the side bone of RF, and a 2 small ones in the other so we injected both since he responded to nerve blockings in both front feet.
---Before the injections he was on a bute regimen and was no longer responding to it.(I was having to over-bute him to keep him moderately comfortable, like 2 grams a day, not good for the tummy.) That is why he suggested tapering him off of it slowly so his body could adjust appropriately.


the office I went to was prescribing
1 gram a day for the first week
1 gram every other day for the next week(he was responding well the last day of this week-today)
1 gram every three days for the 3rd week(which I haven't hit yet)
then following bute on an as needed basis


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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-08-04 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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I don't have any experience with bone spurs. But you might look into Previcox to replace the bute. It can be given long-term without the effects on the tummy you can get from bute. Previcox is the dog version, but some vets will sell it to you for your horse. You can just drop the pill in their grain and they won't even notice it's in there.
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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-08-04 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?


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Yes, if it's soft tissue in the foot.  Mine didn't respond to coffin joint injections and it turned out to be a collateral ligament strain.
 
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BBLO
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2015-08-04 1:42 PM
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have one that was the same way. We have tried and used everything , what we see that has worked the best and is back to clocking in the top % is TLC equibone. When we pulled him off he went back lame within a few weeks.. Can not hurt to try cause it has a 60 day money back policy.
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Mzbradford
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2015-08-04 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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I had a mare get better after coffin injections but the get even worse a few days later, turned out her angles were off which caused the coffin joint to "close" which didn't allow the injection to work... Not saying that is why you are having problems but once we put wedges on she was sound
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-08-04 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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Why was he being injected?  Did he go through the front of the foot or the rear through the DDFT?  Sometimes it takes more than one injection to knock out the inflammation.  It might be that his feet are at the wrong angle...it's a soft tissue injury...or any number of other things.

"Injections" are not the devil.  I'm not one to run off an have mine injected every time something is a bit off, but I will sure have it done if it's inflammation that we can't fix otherwise. 
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-08-04 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: any reason a coffin joint injection wouldn't work?



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I agree pretty much with everything Rachel said. And I am glad I am not the only one on here to ever say injections arent the devil.
So like she said, it could be so many things and without answering the questions she asked, it is hard to have an opinion not knowing if you have xrays ect.
But we have certainly had horses that needed 2 injections in a short about of time due to all the inflammation. And we have had horses that improved some but not enough. Later to find out it was soft tissue. Which can cause secondary bone issues on film. So it is so hard to say.
Sorry you are so stressed but once you have some answers it gets easier to manage.  
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