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    Location: Colorado | streakysox - 2015-08-08 10:17 AM A city in CA just elected not one but two illegal immigrants to their city council. So now they have people who break the law making the laws for the city. America, land of opportunity.
If you are talking about Hunington they were not "elected". Both were appointed as commisioners to volunteer positions. At least one is a college student who was brought to America as a child. Neither position makes law nor votes on such.
It seems both have volunteered thousand of hours to their communitites. Helping maintain the parks, etc..
Should they be shipped back to a country they were not raised in. Or given a path to citizenship as it seems they both are doing what actual citizens should be.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Stitch4k9 - 2015-08-08 1:30 PM streakysox - 2015-08-08 10:17 AM A city in CA just elected not one but two illegal immigrants to their city council. So now they have people who break the law making the laws for the city. America, land of opportunity. If you are talking about Hunington they were not "elected". Both were appointed as commisioners to volunteer positions. At least one is a college student who was brought to America as a child.
Neither position makes law nor votes on such.
It seems both have volunteered thousand of hours to their communitites. Helping maintain the parks, etc..
Should they be shipped back to a country they were not raised in. Or given a path to citizenship as it seems they both are doing what actual citizens should be.
karen
This is the problem. Many of the younger illegals have been here for years through no fault of their own. Many are productive members of society and have never been in trouble, etc....should they be shipped back to a country that they NEVER lived in or should there be some kind of solution? |
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| well i for one its a tough subject but its like a little bit pregant
we need to enforce our laws . period
but its tough have they applied for citzenship
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | The fact of the matter is we have what? Over 20 million illegals living here in the US and we could put a solid 20 foot wall with high voltage wire and razor wire across the entire southern border, yet the problem with illegal residents remains. We've allowed politicians to demagogue this issue through the use of one word: "amnesty". First of all, let's get one thing through our collective heads....there's no way in hell we will ship them back. It won't happen. The Democrats will never seriously attempt to solve this problem, because they are swine who need the votes. Most of the Republicans are no better, because they just chirp about the problem, without making serious suggestions, for fear of being labeled as advocates of "amnesty". Rubio had the guts to actually take this issue seriously and attempted to come up with a sensible solution, and he was excoriated for his efforts. His suggestion never got serious consideration. What's needed is a combination of several suggestions: e-verify, legal guest worker permits, payment of a fine for being here illegally, payment of any back taxes, no voting rights, no access to ObozoCare, and getting in the back of the line if they desire legal citizenship status. These are just some of the elements that need to go into an immigration reform law. To just harp over and over again that we need to ship them back is lazy thinking, because it will never happen.
And....it should go without saying that felons, etc... Need to either be imprisoned or shipped the hell out. Kate's law should be passed. I'm sick of this whole subject. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-08-08 2:16 PM The fact of the matter is we have what? Over 20 million illegals living here in the US and we could put a solid 20 foot wall with high voltage wire and razor wire across the entire southern border, yet the problem with illegal residents remains. We've allowed politicians to demagogue this issue through the use of one word: "amnesty". First of all, let's get one thing through our collective heads....there's no way in hell we will ship them back. It won't happen. The Democrats will never seriously attempt to solve this problem, because they are swine who need the votes. Most of the Republicans are no better, because they just chirp about the problem, without making serious suggestions, for fear of being labeled as advocates of "amnesty". Rubio had the guts to actually take this issue seriously and attempted to come up with a sensible solution, and he was excoriated for his efforts. His suggestion never got serious consideration. What's needed is a combination of several suggestions: e-verify, legal guest worker permits, payment of a fine for being here illegally, payment of any back taxes, no voting rights, no access to ObozoCare, and getting in the back of the line if they desire legal citizenship status. These are just some of the elements that need to go into an immigration reform law. To just harp over and over again that we need to ship them back is lazy thinking, because it will never happen. And....it should go without saying that felons, etc... Need to either be imprisoned or shipped the hell out. Kate's law should be passed. I'm sick of this whole subject.
And they need cut off any federal funding to "sanctuary cities! |
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| I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Why don't we go to the source. MEXICO. Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order? |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | kramerica - 2015-08-08 3:28 PM
I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Â Why don't we go to the source. Â MEXICO. Â Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. Â We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. Â How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order?
Ima gonna sic "El Chapo" on yer Texan ass!
Seriously, how the hell did he escape from a maximum security prison when his room was under video surveillance? They estimated it took like 300 tandem truck loads to haul all the dirt away from the tunnel.
Talk about corruption! And we give Mexico "aid" to boot. |
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kramerica - 2015-08-08 3:28 PM
I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Â Why don't we go to the source. Â MEXICO. Â Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. Â We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. Â How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order?
Ima gonna sic "El Chapo" on yer Texan ass!
Seriously, how the hell did he escape from a maximum security prison when his room was under video surveillance? They estimated it took like 300 tandem truck loads to haul all the dirt away from the tunnel.
Talk about corruption! And we give Mexico "aid" to boot.
I will be nice here, but if those Mexican guards are no more observant than my next door neighbor, El Chapo could have been going out for breakfast every morning and they would have never noticed. He is of Hispanic origin also. |
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| Bear - 2015-08-08 4:01 PM kramerica - 2015-08-08 3:28 PM I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Why don't we go to the source. MEXICO. Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order? Ima gonna sic "El Chapo" on yer Texan ass! Seriously, how the hell did he escape from a maximum security prison when his room was under video surveillance? They estimated it took like 300 tandem truck loads to haul all the dirt away from the tunnel. Talk about corruption! And we give Mexico "aid" to boot.
Oh goodness, now I am really skeered! El Chapo=I rest my case |
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| Stitch4k9 - 2015-08-08 1:30 PM
streakysox - 2015-08-08 10:17 AM A city in CA just elected not one but two illegal immigrants to their city council. So now they have people who break the law making the laws for the city. America, land of opportunity.
If you are talking about Hunington they were not "elected". Â Both were appointed as commisioners to volunteer positions. Â At least one is a college student who was brought to America as a child. Â Neither position makes law nor votes on such. Â
It seems both have volunteered thousand of hours to their communitites. Â Helping maintain the parks, etc..
Should they be shipped back to a country they were not raised in. Â Or given a path to citizenship as it seems they both are doing what actual citizens should be.
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Shipped back. You don't seem to understand the concept of invasion and destruction from within. |
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| question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | The US is going to do zip about Mexico. Just thinking about all the manufacturing that has gone over to Mexico makes me want to puke. I heard Ford is going to build another plant to the tune of 2 billion.
As far as the Mexicans that came over as children with their parents there is no way they can or should be sent back as this is their home. They probably wouldn't survive being sent back to that hell hole. I feel that problem goes back to our government not enforcing our laws to begin with. These newest illegals need to be put on a bus and sent back. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-08-08 7:29 PM
The US is going to do zip about Mexico. Just thinking about all the manufacturing that has gone over to Mexico makes me want to puke. I heard Ford is going to build another plant to the tune of 2 billion.
As far as the Mexicans that came over as children with their parents there is no way they can or should be sent back as this is their home. They probably wouldn't survive being sent back to that hell hole. I feel that problem goes back to our government not enforcing our laws to begin with. These newest illegals need to be put on a bus and sent back. Â
This kind of thing is why Trump has so many people fired up.
We're letting them in...including murderers, thieves, and rapists.
El Chapo gets set free.
They're sending drugs.
Money gets shipped out.
Manufacturing moves to Mexico.
We send Mexico aid.
Their leaders are corrupt and smart.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | The US is going to do zip about Mexico. Just thinking about all the manufacturing that has gone over to Mexico makes me want to puke. I heard Ford is going to build another plant to the tune of 2 billion in Mexico. Some of the foreign brand cars are more American then the American brand cars are.
As far as the Mexicans that came over as children with their parents there is no way they can or should be sent back as this is their home. They probably wouldn't survive being sent back to that hell hole. I feel that problem goes back to our government not enforcing our laws to begin with. These newest illegals need to be put on a bus and sent back. |
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           Location: Florida.. | vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$.
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