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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-08-12 12:20 PM
Subject: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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I have a "problem horse" listed she was beat by a former owner and has some pretty extensive ground issues due to that. I am more concerned with her getting the "right" home then anything. I feel she could (not on purpose) hurt someone in the wrong hands that does not have the experience. This mare is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS so as you can imagine I have had a TON of interest. She is broke... If she lets you saddle and bridle her that day. I have gotten my butt chewed by interested parties because I won't let her sell SIGHT UNSEEN and be sent with a shipper because of her issues and the mares safety. I have SERIOUSLY considered turning her loose in the round pen when a buyer comes out and tell them if you can catch her you can buy her as a way to weed out the wrong homes per say. Would anyone consider this "crazy" to do or "unacceptable?" I am thinking it may be a good idea but just don't know how offensive it'd be?
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rollingrfarm
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-08-12 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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Have a good farm or home liablity insurance policy in case they get hurt. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-08-12 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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I always say there is a perfect home and a perfect JOb for every horse. I would appreciate your honesty as a buyer. I agree, I would make sure you get something in writing that explains her issues and have them sign it before the sale.
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2015-08-12 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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I think you can find her an owner. Could just take a while so be patient. I had a real quirky gelding...took me 1 1/2 yrs to find him a match.  
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-08-12 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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fulltiltfilly - 2015-08-12 1:49 PM

I think you can find herΒ an owner. Could just take a while so be patient. I had a real quirky gelding...took meΒ 1 1/2 yrs to find him a match. Β 

Me to! Mine had been through 4 owners prior to me and he was only 5. He's the best horse I have now. There were times I wasn't sure who was going to kill whom. Still quirky but I love him and know how to handle him. He was abused by a previous owner as well.

OP: just keep looking for a good fit for your horse and hopefully it will work out.
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highonsugar
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2015-08-12 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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I like that idea! "Turn her in to a round pen and if you can catch her........we will go from there!" Would work for me!  Just let them know what is going to go down before they arrive!
 

Edited by highonsugar 2015-08-12 3:41 PM
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-12 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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have them sign a release libility 
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azsun
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-08-12 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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I'm in the same boat. I know my horse would do awesome with the right rider and I'm not doing him justice. I have the same concerns and my horse has a similar history.
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cmpsp1
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-08-12 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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Trust issues take a moment to cause mental issues and can take up to 10 years to correct. They are almost born into trust because we handle the mare so they accept.....but break that tryst through abuse....the smarter the horse the longer it takes to gain trust back, slip up once in the process you could lose 3 months training...trust building....she is a project horse and needs daily handing, is she food driven? That helps a lot. Calm around them no too slow or hesitant movements, they read. A lot into the way you move, the amount of pressure you use and voice and expression....they read you well.

Before breeding such a mare you need to gain its trust.
Hope she finds a confident and patient owner to handle her.
Good luck I will look around for someone also.
I like the way you are approaching this...not selling her sight unseen is perfect....that protects the new owner and the mare...she could be misunderstood and end up in an auction.....seen this happen to too many good mistreated horses.

Edited by cmpsp1 2015-08-12 7:38 PM
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-08-13 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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I think it's great that you're taking HER welfare into account and trying to find a good fit for her rather than just making money off her.
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Lizard
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2015-08-13 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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I bought a young unbroke mare several years back.  Sweet as sugar on the ground.  Started saddling her, ponying her when I rode, standing in the stirrups, all the unusal stuff.  I sent her to a very reputable trainer to have her broke and get her started, he called me the same day I dropped her off and asked me if I was lying about what I'd done with her, I promised him I had.  He told me my best bet would be to sell her for bucking stock, but if I wanted he would work with her for 30 days.  I would go and watch him work her, some days she was a peach, some days all hell broke loose. I rode her for about 2 more months but I was getting to old to hit the ground that many times, SHE COULD BUCK.   I ended up advertising her on this site.  I made it very clear that she bucked like nothing I've ever seen, but it wasn't everyday.  A young girl called and said she had a horse she would be willing to trade for her - she was young so I didn't take her very seriously, but I agreed to meet her at my barn.  She and her mom showed up, saddled her, took her to the arena and ponied her.  She asked if it was ok if she got on her, I told her NO, not here (I also told her that over the phone before she came to look at her).  Long story short we ended up trading.  The mare ended up turning out to be a decent horse (she had some ovary problems they were able to staighten out) and  I ended up with a very nice gelding.  I guess what I'm getting at is I advertised her for what she was, was very upfront with everyone and stuck to my guns when showing her.  Good luck to you - I know if you follow your heart, she will end up in great hands 
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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-08-13 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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I care a lot about this mare just don't have the time for her. She needs consistency, and is incredibly smart and sensitive. I had looked at this mare as a 5yo and passed on her, then as a 7yo and passed, and finally own her as an 8 year old that had been through 5 or 6 different homes, and ran through the sale barn once 2 oeners pryor to me. All those different homes were over a matter of 3-4 months. I have had her 6 months now and the first 2 just kicked her out and did not mess with her...
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-08-13 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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If you have horses long enough you will run into a horse like this. I have one now, a three year old who had trauma somewhere when he was started (don't know where or when). I had to go back to day one in the round pen, as I knew he would not survive with someone who tired to pressure his insecurity out of him. I knew he was not going to be the horse I wanted to put the long term commitment into for myself, and that he would likely not survive a lot of pressure from someone else. As a result, I made the decision to start him over, get him going properly, then move him on to someone else with the best chance of making the horse that they can enjoy. So far, this project is right on track, and he has come light years. Whoever gets him will have a nice horse to go on with. This kind of project is not for everyone. My horse has a big heart, and I like a lot of things about him, so I made the decision to make the effort. Depending on how set in her ways your mare is, going back to the round pen and starting over to rebuild trust is more than many owners are willing or have the time to do. A lot of horses that could be better fall into this category, and are lucky if they find the right person. My opinion would be to be honest about what she is and what it may take to get her right. Make a good deal to the buyer that has the time , experience and willingness to start her over.
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tin can
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2015-08-13 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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Be honest, so many people say anything to make a sale, it all comes out eventually my name means more to me than taking advantage of someone! I usually sell mine quick because people trust me and i price them according to their merit.
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-08-13 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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Do you have her quirks listed in your add? That is where I would start. That alone will weed out some potential buyers.

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-08-13 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"



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azsun - 2015-08-12 3:46 PM I'm in the same boat. I know my horse would do awesome with the right rider and I'm not doing him justice. I have the same concerns and my horse has a similar history.

same
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-08-13 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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I dont have a problem horse but I have a very quirky horse for sale. I tried to be as honest as I could in my ad yet I still get "unqualified" lookers and those that think their abilities are enough. It takes time and you do have to really vet a looker with a bunch of questions cause everyone thinks they are "the one" that can do it better. Patience though and no I wouldnt let a looker near this horse if she dangerous, I would show the horse and its issues to them. Then get a detailed bill of sale of the issues signed by both parties

Edited by geronabean 2015-08-13 5:06 PM
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hotbear03
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2015-08-14 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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 Julie,I love your ad! A prefect buyer will come along for that mare and fit her. Your " ground" rules for the right owner are in place and there's no confusion. The ad doesn't offend,it tells it like it is.
PERFECT! 
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azsun
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-08-14 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: Selling a "Problem Horse"


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I don't call my horse a "problem horse" anymore … I call him "special needs" thus he needs a special owner.
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-08-15 7:10 AM
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hotbear03 - 2015-08-14 1:09 PM  Julie,I love your ad! A prefect buyer will come along for that mare and fit her. Your " ground" rules for the right owner are in place and there's no confusion. The ad doesn't offend,it tells it like it is.

PERFECT! 

Thanks! 
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