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Location: Southwest Louisiana | I have a male Great Pyreneese. He is fixed. My mistake was I didn't raise him from a puppy - I already have a female I got as a puppy and she's great (she's fixed too). A friend knew a rescue that had a male one year old GP who was chained up for months, he was over 145lbs and the lady was moving and leaving him, so I felt bad and said I'd take him.
I can't keep the dang thing inside anything!! I have horse fence (with the small rectagles) in a very big pen with trees and a pond. He loved swimming in the pond, but as soon as I close the gate and walk away, he literally just mowed the fence down and got out. He climbed right over it! Put him in the goat pen that's got cattle panels so he couldn't push it over with his big self, and he climbed it like a ladder. I then put him inside a 12x12 chain link dog kennel with a top on it. He stayed for about an hour. He pulled the bottom of the chain link fence with his teeth until the wire came off along the bottom of the bottom pipe of the pen! He's so heavy, when he puts his weight into it, he can kill any fence I've got. He'd get out and come lay on the steps to the house. But now he wanders.
Now every day I have to go searching for him. We live in a very rural area with tons of woods, so I don't always find him and that worries me. Lately, I found out he's been staying at a house down the road. I don't know these people, but I passed by bringing the kids to school and there he was laying on their front porch! They weren't home, but I called him and he jumped in the truck. Next day, he's gone again and he's back at their house on the porch! Then this morning, I'm in a hurry bringing the kids to school and as I pull out of the driveway the lady who lives at that house is walking down the road, and my dog is happily trotting alongside her! Brought the kids to school and came back to talk to her, but she was gone and not home. Im out of ways to contain this dog. Anyone know what can keep this dog on my property? |
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | It sounds like he has chosen his new family.
Now if you really want to keep the dog, you will need to have secure fence with hot wire on it, to keep him off of it.
You could also try radio collar containment as well. You will have to train him to respect the collar though.
Reguardless of what you do, you will have to invest something into it weather it money for better fencing or training. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Our Anatolian required hotwire top and bottom. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Sounds like they started to feed him. Sell him and start over. Oh.... and words of warning to them if they screw with another of your dogs.. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Does he have anything to "guard" at your house? Was he properly bonded to livestock? I have to use hot wire top and bottom for one of my dogs, she will chase the neigbor dogs all the way home down the road if she gets out of the property.
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Location: Florida.. | shock collar.. |
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| Like one said ... HE HAS CHOSEN HIS FAMILY ... HE HAS BONDED WITH ONE OF THE KIDS and there is no way you can change it .. this is the way GP's are .. one people dogs ..
Let him stay and catch the people at home and talk them into keeping the dog .... and give them a big sack of dog food for being so kind .... kiss the dog and walk away!!
and do not ask them for any type of money etc etc ... next time you will choose the age and breed of the dog more carefully ...
Hope you can get this to work out ... GOD BLESS ... |
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Location: Southwest Louisiana | The place down the road doesn't have kids. The dog is here every day and is protective over us and my kids. He chases stray dogs off. He wasn't bonded with any of our livestock like my female because he was older when I got him. I only got him to remove him from a bad situation. He also has a collar and ID tag on it, and I have had him chipped and keep up with his heart worm medication because he tested positive for them the day I got him. I also signed papers saying I'd keep him myself or give him back to the rescue. I don't feel right telling these people to just take him and hope they take him to the vet and want to pay for meds for his upkeep. I think I just need a better fence. |
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Location: Arkansas | Rocket'sMagicGirl - 2015-08-13 11:12 PM
The place down the road doesn't have kids. The dog is here every day and is protective over us and my kids. He chases stray dogs off. He wasn't bonded with any of our livestock like my female because he was older when I got him. I only got him to remove him from a bad situation. He also has a collar and ID tag on it, and I have had him chipped and keep up with his heart worm medication because he tested positive for them the day I got him. I also signed papers saying I'd keep him myself or give him back to the rescue. I don't feel right telling these people to just take him and hope they take him to the vet and want to pay for meds for his upkeep. I think I just need a better fence.
I agree with you that you need to find a containment situation that works for him, not give him away. Hope some of the suggestions work for you |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Rocket'sMagicGirl - 2015-08-13 11:12 PM
The place down the road doesn't have kids. The dog is here every day and is protective over us and my kids. He chases stray dogs off. He wasn't bonded with any of our livestock like my female because he was older when I got him. I only got him to remove him from a bad situation. He also has a collar and ID tag on it, and I have had him chipped and keep up with his heart worm medication because he tested positive for them the day I got him. I also signed papers saying I'd keep him myself or give him back to the rescue. I don't feel right telling these people to just take him and hope they take him to the vet and want to pay for meds for his upkeep. I think I just need a better fence.
It does not HAVE to be a kid... You don't have to be a kid to bond with an animal... He is fixed (you say)... Does not matter... A bond is a bond.... You missed out on this one.... Sell the dog that you got as an adult and get a puppy that you CAN bond with... |
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| I have a GP/Anatolian cross and I leave mine out so he can protect the livestock most of the time, however occasionally, if I know the tree trimmer, propane, etc. is coming. I put him in the back yard in a chain link fence and so far, he's never gotten out. I must be lucky! |
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Location: MI | We have Maremma LGDs and have an 'underground' (not buried) boundary fence. Our male won't generally stray, but the female will if given the chance. She is also a fence climber, etc. This does keep them in quite well. The male's collar is loose and on 'beep', but the female's we keep on shock. We do check their collars often to make sure they aren't puncturing holes. Also, I tend to keep an ear on their barking at night and the location it's coming from. They haven't gone out in a while (that I know of, lol), but the female has been known to jump the boundary when her batteries get low. |
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Location: Midwest | I would try a proximity collar, or electric dog fencing. My neighbors have a husky who very much wanted to eat my puppy as I walked past their house... he didn't even get close to that barrier! |
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Location: Midwest | komet. - 2015-08-13 11:30 PM Rocket'sMagicGirl - 2015-08-13 11:12 PM The place down the road doesn't have kids. The dog is here every day and is protective over us and my kids. He chases stray dogs off. He wasn't bonded with any of our livestock like my female because he was older when I got him. I only got him to remove him from a bad situation. He also has a collar and ID tag on it, and I have had him chipped and keep up with his heart worm medication because he tested positive for them the day I got him. I also signed papers saying I'd keep him myself or give him back to the rescue. I don't feel right telling these people to just take him and hope they take him to the vet and want to pay for meds for his upkeep. I think I just need a better fence. It does not HAVE to be a kid... You don't have to be a kid to bond with an animal... He is fixed (you say )... Does not matter... A bond is a bond.... You missed out on this one.... Sell the dog that you got as an adult and get a puppy that you CAN bond with...
1) You cannot sell a rescue dog
2) She clearly stated the dog loves her family
3) Please don't accuse folks of dishonesty. If she says the dog is fixed, I don't have any reason to suspect she is lying. Rocket has been around here for a while. There is no need to patronize her or make accusations.
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Location: on my horse | Thank you for taking him in as a rescue especially after you already have another big dog (so obviously know the breed and challenges you face taking on an older dog), I've also heard of people doing well with the hot wire or the proximity collar. I'm sure you've already thought of this but if you can corner your neighbors and talk to them about the situation that alone will probably make you feel a lot better while you work on a fencing solution.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-08-13 8:24 PM
Our Anatolian required hotwire top and bottom.
We have a large Red Bone Hound and made him a pen with a hot wire on the top. It sounds mean to do but he only touched it maybe 2 times and that was it. It's zapped me more times than him! LOL We don't even have it plugged in anymore.
Also, we have an old stock trailer and will lock our dogs in there for a short time if no one is going to be around. It's safe, sturdy, and cool cause the wind can blow through.
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Location: SE Louisiana | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 7:47 AM
komet. - 2015-08-13 11:30 PM Rocket'sMagicGirl - 2015-08-13 11:12 PM The place down the road doesn't have kids. The dog is here every day and is protective over us and my kids. He chases stray dogs off. He wasn't bonded with any of our livestock like my female because he was older when I got him. I only got him to remove him from a bad situation. He also has a collar and ID tag on it, and I have had him chipped and keep up with his heart worm medication because he tested positive for them the day I got him. I also signed papers saying I'd keep him myself or give him back to the rescue. I don't feel right telling these people to just take him and hope they take him to the vet and want to pay for meds for his upkeep. I think I just need a better fence. It does not HAVE to be a kid... You don't have to be a kid to bond with an animal... He is fixed (you say )... Does not matter... A bond is a bond.... You missed out on this one.... Sell the dog that you got as an adult and get a puppy that you CAN bond with...
2) She clearly stated the dog loves her family
3) Please don't accuse folks of dishonesty. If she says the dog is fixed, I don't have any reason to suspect she is lying. Rocket has been around here for a while. There is no need to patronize her or make accusations.
It doesn't cost anything to be kind.
I did not call her a liar and she never said the dog loves her and her family. If you wish to 'call me to task' about word comprehension, we can find someplace else to do it.
If this dog does not have a job, it will take a dog-pen with a roof to contain it. These dogs can and will climb if they can access a corner. |
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Location: Midwest | I'm not calling you to task on word comprehension. Or calling anyone to task, period.
I do think you could stand to be a bit kinder to our BB who is trying to do the best she can for a dog that was in a bad situation.
Have a nice day, Komet. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | barrelracr131 - 2015-08-14 9:14 AM
I'm not calling you to task on word comprehension. Or calling anyone to task, period.
I do think you could stand to be a bit kinder to our BB who is trying to do the best she can for a dog that was in a bad situation.
Have a nice day, Komet.
If you are waiting for me to sugar-coat everything or blow rainbows up anybody's butt, you better not be holding your breath, because I promise you will not survive. I've had to contain GPs and Komondors in the past.. and it ain't easy The GP was supposed to be fixed but I guess the vet could not count to two. (or he had more) We got none of these dogs as puppies and they were PITAs. A hot fence will not work on a dog with hair this long. They can't feel it anymore than a sheep with a full coat of wool. We didn't have shock collars back then. That might help, but you'll have to get it down against the skin. |
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