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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | The mare in my profile picture has been bred to AQHA horses only so far.
2014 Perkolatin
and now due for 2016 to John Fame.
this mare is and Overo so cannot be bred to any overo gene carriers. I'd like to actually have a chance for some color this time seeing as ill bet money i'll be getting another Solid foal.
I would really like to breed her to an APHA stallion for 2016 and im having a hard time remembering whats PROVEN paint sires are out there.
So i need suggestions.
I've already Looked at Lazy Susan ranch and Lone Star and possibly considering one of their studs.
Must be at least 15.2 and would like something with a short strong top line as my mare is a little long. ( She's a little hot, so something with a cool head wouldnt be bad either.)
SO please throw out the ones that come to the top of your head.
Pictures are of her 2014 Colt as a yearling. Just to show what she throws as I don't have any current conformmation shots of her.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Just something to think about. http://www.moolahranch.com/index.html?home=stallion.html |
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| Joni Voloshin in Colorado. Not only are they homozygous for tobiano, they are homozygous for the black gene so you will not get a sorrel and white. They are proven in many cattle events and I have purchased quite a few head of babies from her with the oldest being 5. He is not only built but is very smart and quicker than a cat. These are some of the better paint stallions available, having good bone and longevity. Check her out, I am definitely 100% satisfied with these colts and their attitude and ability to run and be level headed. And Gorgeous!!!!
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Location: Gainesville, TX | How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. |
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Look into Country Quick Dash, Country Chicks Man and SM Country Snowman. All are very high quality APHA racing stallions. |
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Location: Missouri | Quick name that hasn't been mentioned, Color Me Custom (son of Judge Cash).
Never mind! I'm dumb!!! He's overo!
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Location: Missouri | oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50?
eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo?
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | just4fun - 2015-08-23 8:41 PM
oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50? eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo?
I will NOT breed an overo to an Overo. That gives you a 25% chance for a Lethal white foal, which is a dead foal....
So Tobianos are the only ones i'm looking at.
I am uncertain on the genetics ot Awesome Chrome and how that works. I'm waiting on a response from a friend who is a paint SPECIALIST so to speak :p
If it is safe to breed, to him, he is definitely one i have considered. |
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-23 11:16 PM
just4fun - 2015-08-23 8:41 PM
oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50? eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo?
I will NOT breed an overo to an Overo. That gives you a 25% chance for a Lethal white foal, which is a dead foal....
So Tobianos are the only ones i'm looking at.
I am uncertain on the genetics ot Awesome Chrome and how that works. I'm waiting on a response from a friend who is a paint SPECIALIST so to speak :p
If it is safe to breed, to him, he is definitely one i have considered.
Have you had your mare tested for lethal white? Not every overo carries the LW and tobainos can carry it, its even see is some quarter horses.
The test is not too expensive, and lots of studs are tested that I have looked at. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | della - 2015-08-23 11:48 PM
Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-23 11:16 PM
just4fun - 2015-08-23 8:41 PM
oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50? eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo?
I will NOT breed an overo to an Overo. That gives you a 25% chance for a Lethal white foal, which is a dead foal....
So Tobianos are the only ones i'm looking at.
I am uncertain on the genetics ot Awesome Chrome and how that works. I'm waiting on a response from a friend who is a paint SPECIALIST so to speak :p
If it is safe to breed, to him, he is definitely one i have considered.
Have you had your mare tested for lethal white? Not every overo carries the LW and tobainos can carry it, its even see is some quarter horses.
The test is not too expensive, and lots of studs are tested that I have looked at.
My mare has not been tested, but i can guarantee she is a OLW mare.
Tobianos only carry it if they are "Toveros" and have an overo or tovero in the immediate line.
As for these double registered studs, thats what i am unsure of and looking into. |
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Location: Kansas | oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen.
that would definitely be my pick! |
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Location: Missouri | Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-24 12:16 AM just4fun - 2015-08-23 8:41 PM oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50?
eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo? I will NOT breed an overo to an Overo. That gives you a 25% chance for a Lethal white foal, which is a dead foal.... So Tobianos are the only ones i'm looking at. I am uncertain on the genetics ot Awesome Chrome and how that works. I'm waiting on a response from a friend who is a paint SPECIALIST so to speak :p If it is safe to breed, to him, he is definitely one i have considered.
Please let us know what your friend says! I'm really curious! From the little bit I've read, he is splash white, which is overo.
I was curious about the color probability b/c I bred my bay tobi mare to an AQHA with lots of white (I also think splash white??) and wondered if there was a higher chance of color this time. After reading your post, I did the color calculator with splash and ended up with something around 75% chance of chrome! Which of course means I will have another solid! haha! |
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| I would breed to Dash Ta Magnolia. I LOVE his bottom side (Magnolia Bar Jet), and Dash Ta Fame on top isn't too shabby. |
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Location: Missouri | Since my previous suggestion won't work... don't forget about Judys Lineage. (My grandson is HUGE.)
I also love the look of CRM Livewire. |
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-24 12:06 AM
della - 2015-08-23 11:48 PM
Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-23 11:16 PM
just4fun - 2015-08-23 8:41 PM
oija - 2015-08-23 11:29 AM How about Awesome Chrome. Only FDD stud standing I believe. He's had a ton of winners in the barrel pen. Anyone know the genetics of this cross? Does breeding to a splash white give any higher probability of a painted baby? Or, still 50/50? eta: Oh, wait! Is he considered overo? So, genetically, you would be overo x overo?
I will NOT breed an overo to an Overo. That gives you a 25% chance for a Lethal white foal, which is a dead foal....
So Tobianos are the only ones i'm looking at.
I am uncertain on the genetics ot Awesome Chrome and how that works. I'm waiting on a response from a friend who is a paint SPECIALIST so to speak :p
If it is safe to breed, to him, he is definitely one i have considered.
Have you had your mare tested for lethal white? Not every overo carries the LW and tobainos can carry it, its even see is some quarter horses.
The test is not too expensive, and lots of studs are tested that I have looked at.
My mare has not been tested, but i can guarantee she is a OLW mare.
Tobianos only carry it if they are "Toveros" and have an overo or tovero in the immediate line.
As for these double registered studs, thats what i am unsure of and looking into.
http://www.apha.com/breed/geneticsarticles/lethalwhites3
you might find that article intresting.
The only way to know for sure is to test your mare. You can also have a tobaino with an overo ancestors way in the wood pile, they many not show overo color but can still carry lethal white.
Many moons ago I worked for a paint breeder and then it was believed it was strictly overo color to overo color, but through much testing it has been learned its much more complicated than that. Its a subject i find very intresting and read up on often.
If you are sure your mare is OLW you need to make sure the stud has been tested regardless of his color pattern. Even the crop out AQHA as they tend to be overo based. So it stands that triditional colored AQHA horses can carry it the geneticswere passed on.
PS sorry for any typos my phone is being a pita today lol. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | just4fun - 2015-08-24 7:46 AM
Since my previous suggestion won't work... don't forget about Judys Lineage. (My grandson is HUGE.)
I also love the look of CRM Livewire.
I would TOTALLY go to Judys lineage.
However, I was informed that he is no longer standing, and has been retired from the breeding shed, which breaks my heart cause i think he's one of the coolest cats in the paint industry for speed events!
I've been keeping a close eye on livewire and i talk with his owners often who are SOO sweet! He's on my list for one of my race mares as a potential paint race foal. I think he's going to be a pretty big deal in the future as a sire . |
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Location: Kansas | Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-24 3:54 PM
just4fun - 2015-08-24 7:46 AM
Since my previous suggestion won't work... don't forget about Judys Lineage. (My grandson is HUGE.)
I also love the look of CRM Livewire.
I would TOTALLY go to Judys lineage.
However, I was informed that he is no longer standing, and has been retired from the breeding shed, which breaks my heart cause i think he's one of the coolest cats in the paint industry for speed events!
I've been keeping a close eye on livewire and i talk with his owners often who are SOO sweet! He's on my list for one of my race mares as a potential paint race foal. I think he's going to be a pretty big deal in the future as a sire .
He is done breeding... and I got one of his last babies  |
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Location: Missouri | HarlanLivesOn - 2015-08-24 5:11 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2015-08-24 3:54 PM just4fun - 2015-08-24 7:46 AM Since my previous suggestion won't work... don't forget about Judys Lineage. (My grandson is HUGE.)
I also love the look of CRM Livewire. I would TOTALLY go to Judys lineage. However, I was informed that he is no longer standing, and has been retired from the breeding shed, which breaks my heart cause i think he's one of the coolest cats in the paint industry for speed events! I've been keeping a close eye on livewire and i talk with his owners often who are SOO sweet! He's on my list for one of my race mares as a potential paint race foal. I think he's going to be a pretty big deal in the future as a sire . He is done breeding... and I got one of his last babies
Oh, bummer! I'm no help at all. lol! He is still listed on their website with a $1250 fee. 
Good luck!
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Location: Montana | joplin21 - 2015-08-24 7:35 AM I would breed to Dash Ta Magnolia. I LOVE his bottom side (Magnolia Bar Jet), and Dash Ta Fame on top isn't too shabby.
Dash Ta Magnolia is who I was going to suggest too. My friend and her husband (who is also my farrier) owns his dam, and they bred her to DTF and raised him until they sold him. I have personally seen his dam run 1D times and win 1D checks, and DTF speaks for himself. |
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