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Location: Kansas | So we bought a 2 y/o gelding from the sale in the beginning of August, built well and very pretty! Palomino with two big socks and a blaze. Planned on Breaking him out to eventually sell him or make him a kid horse since he is so laid back. Well the next day after getting him home he comes up lame! It looked like he had a fresh trim job so we didn't really think anything of it until we picked his feet up and seen they had just been rounded up and not trimmed. So we let him sit till our ferrier could look at him and he couldn't find anything no swelling or abcess which we were thinking it could have been. So we take him to the vet today get him ex-rayed and find out he had broke his leg in the joint that goes through the pasturn and it is now seized up and he will always be lame! I am furious because now I know he was buted going through the sale. So now I am stuck with a lame horse and I don't know if I can get my money back! Is there anything I can do legally or am I just stuck with this horse? I plan to call the place I baught him from but they aren't open till Thursday hopefully I can get the person's contact info. That sold him So that I can get ahold of them! I don't want to sell him and have someone else be stuck with him. But I would like to get my money back somehow if I can.
Edited by mcdaniel14 2015-08-24 6:22 PM
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 Horsey Gene Carrier
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | Auctions are usually 'as is' unless there is a guarantee on the horse. Any guarantees on the horse are usually announced while the horse is in the ring.
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Location: Kansas | That what I was thinking and I don't think there was a guarantee on him but he was not limping at all and looked like a perfectly good prospect! I don't get why people wouldn't just be honest and say he is lame and most likely will stay that way so we don't waist our time and money! |
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Horsey Gene Carrier
Posts: 1888
Location: LaBelle, Florida | The reason they did it was for more money.
No one wants to buy a known lame horse, esp one so young and gelding.
He is doomed to be a pasture pet or to be put down.
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 A Gopher's Worst Nightmare
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Location: Southern Oregon | I hate to say it, but there is a reason that a lot of pretty horses end up at the auction. Sorry you got took, but it isn't the auction houses fault and there is nothing you can do about your loss of funds on this guy. |
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | When you buy at an auction, you have to be a risk taker and take your chances. I've bought some great horses there, and some duds. You have to be willing to take the hit and if it doesn't turn out, cut your losses.
Sorry this happened to you.
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Location: Kansas | I don't blame the auction I know the seller by name and he has a good reputation as far as I know, but he has for sure burned his bridges with me. I just want to call the sale barn more or less to see if I can get his contact info to give him a call... Not that it will do any good! |
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Common Sense and then some
Location: So. California | mcdaniel14 - 2015-08-24 4:38 PM I don't blame the auction I know the seller by name and he has a good reputation as far as I know, but he has for sure burned his bridges with me. I just want to call the sale barn more or less to see if I can get his contact info to give him a call... Not that it will do any good!
Google his name and try to find a phone number or someone you know might have his number. Maybe he will trade you another horse for this one. Good luck on tracking him down... |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | mcdaniel14 - 2015-08-24 6:38 PM
I don't blame the auction I know the seller by name and he has a good reputation as far as I know, but he has for sure burned his bridges with me. I just want to call the sale barn more or less to see if I can get his contact info to give him a call... Not that it will do any good!
Been in a similar situation. My dad is an auctioneer and used to put on horse sales. A big 16hh leopard Appaloosa came through one of our sales. We had known the guy for years that owned him. He said he was a dead broke kids horse. * note this was many years ago when you could get a good horse at auction* and had a child ride him through the sale ring. We bought him for $1500. Got him out to ride the next morning and he was far far from a kids horse. We know he was drugged. No it's not right for a person to do that but it's not illegal either. Dad always announces before a sale that everything is sold "as is" any guarantee is made between the seller and buyer. So that leaves the auction out of it. It sucks but there nothing you can do. I wouldn't even call the guy because it's not going to get anything accomplished. Obviously he knew it and doesn't care. |
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Elite Veteran
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| A gal I know is trying to take a fellow to small claims court because after she had the horse for 3 weeks he started bucking when trying to canter. She took the horse to the vet and found out it's pelvis is out or something like that. I told her since she didn't do a pre-purchase exam I doubt she had much of a chance. Do you guys think I'm right or does she stand a chance? |
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Boot Detective
Posts: 1900
| If the seller misrepresents the horse to be sound when in fact they had to have given the horse pain meds or injections just prior to the sale, you can go after the seller for fraud. I would contact the seller first and give them the opportunity to make it right. What were their comments in the sale catalog about the colt? |
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The Advice Guru
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| purplemoon828 - 2015-08-24 8:13 PM
A gal I know is trying to take a fellow to small claims court because after she had the horse for 3 weeks he started bucking when trying to canter. She took the horse to the vet and found out it's pelvis is out or something like that. I told her since she didn't do a pre-purchase exam I doubt she had much of a chance. Do you guys think I'm right or does she stand a chance?
She is out to lunch
3 weeks after ownership, anything can happen, the horse could have slipped and pith his pelvis out in the field
She better hope the previous owner doesn't sue her for damages and slander |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | purplemoon828 - 2015-08-24 9:13 PM A gal I know is trying to take a fellow to small claims court because after she had the horse for 3 weeks he started bucking when trying to canter. She took the horse to the vet and found out it's pelvis is out or something like that. I told her since she didn't do a pre-purchase exam I doubt she had much of a chance. Do you guys think I'm right or does she stand a chance?
One of my mares used to quite often and had her adjusted .. its hard to deal with but it could have happened at any time. |
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Elite Veteran
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| That's kind of what I told the gal. She wanted me to go to court and say I saw the horse buck. When I told her my thoughts she hasn't called me back, Oh well. Didn't need that hassle anyways, LOL |
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Location: Beggs, OK | quickdraw - 2015-08-24 9:00 PM If the seller misrepresents the horse to be sound when in fact they had to have given the horse pain meds or injections just prior to the sale, you can go after the seller for fraud. I would contact the seller first and give them the opportunity to make it right. What were their comments in the sale catalog about the colt?
At this point it's just an assumption. The horse was not blood tested for drugs in his system. |
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 Saint Stacey
| I agree with Rachel. You have no proof. Those small local auctions are usually Buyer Beware. |
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I Really Love Jeans
Posts: 3173
Location: North Dakota | I have been cheated twice in the last two years! The first was a mare that was 7 and already running barrels, Top names on her papers! The woman looked me in the eye and said the mare was sound and ready to haul. Long story short she was lame and would never run again! Sold her for brood-mare price and a huge loss! The next horse I purchased as a dead broke safe for anyone kids horse. Well 48 hours after getting her home she turned into a dangerous freak! I had a friend that is a jockey try her to see if I was crazy, after ten minutes he told me she was dangerous and that she was likely drugged out of her mind the day we purchased her! I contacted the previous owner only to be hung up on! I kind of get why they lied about the barrel horse but when someone advertises a child safe horse and endangers children to make a buck that is just sick!! |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| Yeah auctions have a buyr beware, sold as is policy. I wouldnt waste my time. Clearly the seller knows, it was a pretty bad injury he would have had to deal with. |
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Posts: 1975
Location: Sunnyland Florida |
It's not just auctions, unfortunately, I've bought horses like this from "friends".
However, an auction is the easiest place to drug and sell one, so shopping there is the greatest risk.
The way I see it, you are at risk whether you buy from friends, family, breeders or auctions. If someone has a lame horse they need to peddle, the almighty dollar steps in, shows its ugly face and the wrong thing happens for the poor horse. That's the part I hate.
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Veteran
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Location: Kansas | Thanks for the input everyone I plan to get ahold of the guy and see if he will make it right, the horse can barely walk and has been that way since we got him home so I know he was most likely drugged so he wouldn't limp. |
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