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| Have any of you used it? Have you been happy with results? I was thinking of getting one to use myself and to offer sessions at shows and barrel races. Just kicking the idea around. What is the going rate for Equi Resp sessions? I dont know a great deal at this point obviously. Any info is appreciated.
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| I love my EquiResp! Has made a huge difference in my horse going in the pen and performing. |
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| I paid $25 last week for a session.
My horse wasnt too fond of the mask on his nose, he kept throwing his head around.
Going to try it again, to see if he will be still. |
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| How do they make it safe to share between horses?Is there a way to safely sanitize it? I was curious about trying it but being in Colorado with VS so bad it made me nervous.
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Location: In my own little world | PalominoLuvr2241 - 2015-08-31 2:43 PM How do they make it safe to share between horses?Is there a way to safely sanitize it? I was curious about trying it but being in Colorado with VS so bad it made me nervous.
PalominoLvr that is exactly the concern more people should have. You couldn't get me to use one that has been used on a horse other than one of mine for nothing. I hope people who are being paid to treat horses have really good insurance. I really think you are going to see some of the vets rally with their state veterinary medical boards that nebulizer treatments should be administered by a certified vet only unless it is for personal use. I could be way off base but I see things headed that way especially with all the disease issues we have. Don't share a bucket of water, don't share a breathing apparatus. |
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Location: texas | i pay 25 bucks per session the machines are around $800. and omg yes a total difference with one treatment. my horse ran faster and had a bigger stride as well! its MOST DEFF worth the investment and you could easilyget your money back by offering sessions |
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| Love it!!! I pay $25 a session (25 min session) and it works wonders!! I am buying one for myself now :) |
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| ropenrun - 2015-08-31 5:14 PM PalominoLuvr2241 - 2015-08-31 2:43 PM How do they make it safe to share between horses?Is there a way to safely sanitize it? I was curious about trying it but being in Colorado with VS so bad it made me nervous. PalominoLvr that is exactly the concern more people should have. You couldn't get me to use one that has been used on a horse other than one of mine for nothing. I hope people who are being paid to treat horses have really good insurance. I really think you are going to see some of the vets rally with their state veterinary medical boards that nebulizer treatments should be administered by a certified vet only unless it is for personal use. I could be way off base but I see things headed that way especially with all the disease issues we have. Don't share a bucket of water, don't share a breathing apparatus.
Now you brought up some good points. If I offered sessions to others I would def clean the mask between each horse. Also, I would make it my priority to learn as much about the system as possible to be able to safely and effictively admister treatments. I wouldnt want anyone treating my horse that didnt know what they were doing. Im glad you brought that up, I had not thought about that yet. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | You disinfect it between horses. I have one and love love love it! It has done wonders for a bleeder and one with allergies. |
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Location: NE Texas | It has been used on my horse while out of my care, but I will NEVER use one of these, nor will it ever be used on any of my horses if I have any say so whatsoever. |
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| Herbie - 2015-09-01 10:05 AM
It has been used on my horse while out of my care, but I will NEVER use one of these, nor will it ever be used on any of my horses if I have any say so whatsoever.
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| I've heard a lot of people swear by the treatment. Do you use Colloidal Silver? If so, is it safe for horses? Years ago my grandmother used colloidal silver. She swore by it. Then the reports came out that it was dangerous for your health. Human bodies don't need the heavy metal. Are their studies for horses? |
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Location: South Central Florida | I posted this before, I have now had 3 friends with horses that used the nebulizer treatments, come up with major lung infections. One owned the machine herself, one paid for a treatment and the other I can't remember right now. The one that owned her own machine believed she was very VERY careful about cleaning. Her horse was in intensive care with a vet for over 3 weeks. Several times they didn't think he was going to make it.
All three had very otherwise healthy horses. The vets all 3 (all different vets in different areas of Florida) said very likely got from machine. They are not easy to clean and a miscroscopic amount pumped directly into the lungs via this type system can cause major problems.
I also have a friend that has COPD and has had lung problems all her life. She nebulizes daily, but she replaces the tubing constantly.
I can't imagine ever using one that has been used on other horses, and at this point can't really imagine even using one of my own with out replacing everything for every use. I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
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Location: NE Texas | Swannranch - 2015-09-01 12:15 PM I posted this before, I have now had 3 friends with horses that used the nebulizer treatments, come up with major lung infections. One owned the machine herself, one paid for a treatment and the other I can't remember right now. The one that owned her own machine believed she was very VERY careful about cleaning. Her horse was in intensive care with a vet for over 3 weeks. Several times they didn't think he was going to make it.
All three had very otherwise healthy horses. The vets all 3 (all different vets in different areas of Florida) said very likely got from machine. They are not easy to clean and a miscroscopic amount pumped directly into the lungs via this type system can cause major problems.
I also have a friend that has COPD and has had lung problems all her life. She nebulizes daily, but she replaces the tubing constantly.
I can't imagine ever using one that has been used on other horses, and at this point can't really imagine even using one of my own with out replacing everything for every use. I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
^^^That's why. I almost lost my horse earlier this year and had exceeded the treatment options of 4 different vets. These things are not sterile and that spray is just cleaning what is in the mask....IF all areas are wiped down thoroughly. To use a machine like this in an environment that is dusty, moldy, and full of bacteria creates a perfect storm to push bacteria and fungus, not to mention whatever sicknesses and diseases are floating around, down deep into the lungs of our horses.
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| Herbie - 2015-09-01 1:19 PM Swannranch - 2015-09-01 12:15 PM I posted this before, I have now had 3 friends with horses that used the nebulizer treatments, come up with major lung infections. One owned the machine herself, one paid for a treatment and the other I can't remember right now. The one that owned her own machine believed she was very VERY careful about cleaning. Her horse was in intensive care with a vet for over 3 weeks. Several times they didn't think he was going to make it.
All three had very otherwise healthy horses. The vets all 3 (all different vets in different areas of Florida) said very likely got from machine. They are not easy to clean and a miscroscopic amount pumped directly into the lungs via this type system can cause major problems.
I also have a friend that has COPD and has had lung problems all her life. She nebulizes daily, but she replaces the tubing constantly.
I can't imagine ever using one that has been used on other horses, and at this point can't really imagine even using one of my own with out replacing everything for every use. I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
^^^That's why. I almost lost my horse earlier this year and had exceeded the treatment options of 4 different vets. These things are not sterile and that spray is just cleaning what is in the mask....IF all areas are wiped down thoroughly. To use a machine like this in an environment that is dusty, moldy, and full of bacteria creates a perfect storm to push bacteria and fungus, not to mention whatever sicknesses and diseases are floating around, down deep into the lungs of our horses.
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Location: Midwest | Herbie - 2015-09-01 1:19 PM Swannranch - 2015-09-01 12:15 PM I posted this before, I have now had 3 friends with horses that used the nebulizer treatments, come up with major lung infections. One owned the machine herself, one paid for a treatment and the other I can't remember right now. The one that owned her own machine believed she was very VERY careful about cleaning. Her horse was in intensive care with a vet for over 3 weeks. Several times they didn't think he was going to make it.
All three had very otherwise healthy horses. The vets all 3 (all different vets in different areas of Florida) said very likely got from machine. They are not easy to clean and a miscroscopic amount pumped directly into the lungs via this type system can cause major problems.
I also have a friend that has COPD and has had lung problems all her life. She nebulizes daily, but she replaces the tubing constantly.
I can't imagine ever using one that has been used on other horses, and at this point can't really imagine even using one of my own with out replacing everything for every use. I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
^^^That's why. I almost lost my horse earlier this year and had exceeded the treatment options of 4 different vets. These things are not sterile and that spray is just cleaning what is in the mask....IF all areas are wiped down thoroughly. To use a machine like this in an environment that is dusty, moldy, and full of bacteria creates a perfect storm to push bacteria and fungus, not to mention whatever sicknesses and diseases are floating around, down deep into the lungs of our horses.
I could see bacteria or mold growing on the machine's components and causing an issue. Isn't there any sort of filtration system?
Are people really using these without disinfecting the tubing between uses? Letting them sit in the barn? Yikes...
Personally I would NEVER pay for a treatment at a show. Who knows what type of protocol is being used to clean those machines.
I'm really suprised there isn't fitration between the mask and the tubing to prevent contamination. Now I'm off to google schematics on one of these bad boys.... |
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Location: Midwest | So they are charging 700 bucks for the "Pro" package, which includes:
A TC-2000 air compressor (which you buy for 230 bucks on google)
a small plastic mask for a horse
a medicine cup
cheap tubing
a bottle of colloidal silver (which btw is not conclusively proven to do anything positive for human or horse)
a bottle of disinfectant (think lysol or bleach)
a carrying case
That's a pretty good profit margin
I also see filters for sale. I'm not sure where they go on the machine, but it doesn't look like they would filter the air to sterility as the pore size is not noted anywhere... plus it just looks like a sponge and is not packaged in sterile type packaging. Oy
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| Swannranch - 2015-09-01 12:15 PM
I posted this before, I have now had 3 friends with horses that used the nebulizer treatments, come up with major lung infections. One owned the machine herself, one paid for a treatment and the other I can't remember right now. The one that owned her own machine believed she was very VERY careful about cleaning. Her horse was in intensive care with a vet for over 3 weeks. Several times they didn't think he was going to make it.
All three had very otherwise healthy horses. The vets all 3 (all different vets in different areas of Florida) said very likely got from machine. They are not easy to clean and a miscroscopic amount pumped directly into the lungs via this type system can cause major problems.
I also have a friend that has COPD and has had lung problems all her life. She nebulizes daily, but she replaces the tubing constantly.
I can't imagine ever using one that has been used on other horses, and at this point can't really imagine even using one of my own with out replacing everything for every use. I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
This is unpossible.
Colloidal Silver is an fungal, anti bacterial and with the exception of Angel tears the purest thing on earth.
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