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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-09-01 1:53 PM
Subject: Might be buying land for horses. Any advice?



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 Of course, I'm consulting with my family (long time farmers and land owners) as well as my banker, accountant, lawyer, friends, etc. I grew up on a farm but this is our first time buying. We don't NEED to buy and weren't quite ready to do so but an amazing opportunity has presented itself that doesn't come around very often. So we are at least considering it.

BUT! You guys on BHW are always so good of thinking about the "what if's" and many different experiences.

When you bought land so that you could keep your horses on your own property, was there something you wish you had done different?

Or had known ahead of time?

 

Edited by r_beau 2015-09-01 1:54 PM
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ndcowgirl
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2015-09-01 2:30 PM
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Does it have access to water and electric and if not how much is it going to cost to dig it in.
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jewishprincess
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Posted 2015-09-01 2:51 PM
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School districts. County taxes. Some counties are much higher than others. So your payment could double just because of what county you live in. Check the property taxes.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-09-01 4:12 PM
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 I wish I had put in a drainage system before building fences. 
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Peewee212
Reg. Sep 2012
Posted 2015-09-01 5:24 PM
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Water source would be my main worry. Can you run lines for automatic water, hydrants, is there a well? You can make about anything work if you truly have to, we hauled water temporarily at one point in our move. Space is important and also how water drains on your land. Does it drain where your planning to put livestock?

Last but not least, is it far enough away from your mother in law (inside joke).
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-09-01 8:48 PM
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The particular piece we are looking at already has water and electrical dug in the ditch next to the land, so it is "there" already. It would be a matter of getting it to the future house/barn/etc. But at least it isn't in the middle of nowhere that has nothing. 

We would actually be in the same county where we currently have our house and very small acreage (That does not allow horses). So property taxes and such would be the same. Unsure of school. Will have to check.

DRAINAGE SYSTEM .... what do you mean by that? Or you are talking about the outdoor septic system for the house?

There already is a large dam in both pastures. There are actually a couple of water access points that already exist. IT's pretty hilly, which I love, so the low places are pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, not any farther away from the MIL than we are now .. which really isn't far enough.    ;-)

 
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-09-01 9:09 PM
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 Drainage system:  I live in a swamp, so we needed ditches to get the water off the back pasture.   You probably don't have that problem where you are. 
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Swannranch
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2015-09-02 12:26 PM
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 I have not had a problem but here in Florida, Iv had several friends have flooding problems. Bot flood like house under water, but so wet Horses had to stand in water 24/7 for several weeks. So enough water or too much water....check.
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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-09-02 1:26 PM
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My kingdom for a flat spot! We live on a big ol' hill and there is not (naturally) a big enough, flat enough spot for a decent size barrel pattern. I love my hill because it never stays wet for very long (and my horses stifles stay strong... hehe) but good Lord I miss flat ground sometimes. 

Granted I'm originally from south Florida where everything was flat.
 
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-09-02 1:49 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-01 10:09 PM  Drainage system:  I live in a swamp, so we needed ditches to get the water off the back pasture.   You probably don't have that problem where you are. 

where justin live in ohio my word its wet shees my power chair dam near got stuck in yard  and mosquitos my  they have herds of them
 
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Peewee212
Reg. Sep 2012
Posted 2015-09-02 2:08 PM
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What I mean by drainage especially if it is hilly like you say, you want to make sure water runs away from your pens, house, outbuildings. We built a house last year on some ground that is rocky and hilly, I ended up putting the house in the side of the hill because I wanted it up out of the bottom, but when it rains, the lots are under water, if it rains good the one Quonset is underwater. My husband hasn't done any dirt work yet around house or anything, but he will actually end up created a ditch so things will drain away from the bottom and off hill. Water has to have a place to go. Its a lot easier to change things now before you build or add barns, sheds, etc.

I unfortunately live exactly 1 mile from my inlaws, after being forced to verbally set the boundaries I can actually say 1 mile isn't as bad as it could be. I did have to put my very small foot down and my relationship with my MIL is hardly on speaking terms, but it really helped the relationship with my husband who no longer has to hear me complain. Before we lost our house we were 10 miles, which was just about right.

Good Luck. Its a good feeling when things become your own and you can do whatever you like.
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docschic
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-09-02 2:18 PM
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Rolling J
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2015-09-02 3:08 PM
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TrackinBubba - 2015-09-02 1:26 PM

My kingdom for a flat spot! We live on a big ol' hill and there is not (naturally) a big enough, flat enough spot for a decent size barrel pattern. I love my hill because it never stays wet for very long (and my horses stifles stay strong... hehe) but good Lord I miss flat ground sometimes. 

Granted I'm originally from south Florida where everything was flat.
 

OOOHHH Girl, right there with you. 22 ac. of land and NOT a flat spot anywhere. My daughter has a green mare that needs worked and it is a pain loading and hauling somewhere everytime.
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-09-02 3:27 PM
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TrackinBubba - 2015-09-02 1:26 PM My kingdom for a flat spot! We live on a big ol' hill and there is not (naturally) a big enough, flat enough spot for a decent size barrel pattern. I love my hill because it never stays wet for very long (and my horses stifles stay strong... hehe) but good Lord I miss flat ground sometimes. 

Granted I'm originally from south Florida where everything was flat.
 
I am absolutely keeping this in mind! Mostly what we are looking at is 129 acres. I would be in absolute HEAVEN if we can afford it; and that's a big "if". That's what we are trying to figure out now. It is quite hilly, but I believe there was one corner of the pasture that would have easy access to the gravel road, and areas that are flat enough that we could do a little dirt work and still have a nice sized arena. So that would work well for the house, barn, arena, etc. I'm going to go look at everything again closely this weekend, looking at slopes, precise water flow, existing approahces, etc. We just did a quick buzz around tour the another night. 

My 2 horses would be spoiled rotten if they get 129 acres to themselves. Or else that just means I need more horses then .... right?

 

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bosberg
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2015-09-03 9:27 AM
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Check with the county it's in to see how it is zoned.... not all ag land is zoned the same. . for instance, we are with in 3000 feet of a 'lake' (more of a slew) and so we are zoned special protection and so have more rules of what we can and can't do with our land also, check if you'd need a feedlot permit, usually that goes by animal units; some farms in our area were grandfathered in and if those folks let the current permit go or sell, a permit would be denied due to zoning changes.. You'd only need one if you are going to have more than the animal units allowed.





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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-09-03 9:40 AM
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What part of the state? Would you own mineral rights? Is any of the land tillable? Are there any wind farms nearby?
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barrelhaybroker
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-09-03 10:32 AM
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Double check the electric and water situation. Drainage should be considered anywhere or for ANY building , fence, arena etc. you don't need to live on a hill ( ever see a flat spot there or erosion issues)?. A level and properly draining area can be created anywhere. We have been in the excavating business 30+ years and specialize in drainage issues. Now... Buy all you can get! It will never be any cheaper!
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barrelhaybroker
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-09-03 10:34 AM
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You can recess an arena into anything to have a level area. That is just a myth that you can't create a level spot with proper drainage..
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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-09-03 10:47 AM
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barrelhaybroker - 2015-09-03 11:34 AM You can recess an arena into anything to have a level area. That is just a myth that you can't create a level spot with proper drainage..

Wanna come to Florida? 
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barrelhaybroker
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-09-03 11:42 AM
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We can travel! We do have people from several states that call us. They say they wouldn't use anyone else ! One more tidbit... Never skimp on the dirt work! The guy up the road with a tractor is NOT an excavator! Before Anything is built is the easiest and best time to cut in drainage and build pads!
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