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| Have a horse who was recently diagnosed with ulcers. Prior to this diagnosis his feed schedule was 1 scoop sweet feed 2X a day with hay... Am treating with the Omeprozole for next 10 days but want to change his feed as researching, horses with ulcers do not need to be on sweet feeds. He is on pasture and is only up to eat and then turned back out. Those of you who deal with horses with ulcers what do you feed and how. Thanks! ETA: He tends to be a picky eater as well!
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| I feed Blue Bonnett sr intensify. Alfalfa hay and Cur Ost total support and add Cur Ost stomach. |
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| I have always been told to treat ulcers properly you need to treat wit omeprazole for atleast 21 days |
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Renew Gold...and add Alfalfa atleast twice a day is what I'd do |
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| readytorodeo - 2015-09-13 1:07 PM
I feed Blue Bonnett sr intensify. Alfalfa hay and Cur Ost total support and add Cur Ost stomach.
I totally agree with Curost!!!! Believe it or not, ulcers can be treated without omeprazole |
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| It has worked for my ulcer prone mare. |
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| 1/2 pound Purina enrich, 1 pound max e glo which is rice bran and it has calcium carbonate also found in acid reducers such as neighlox and 1/2 cup marshmallow root and slippery elm 2x a day along with alfalfa and turnout. If I haul him I put hay in front of him bc the chewing helps reduce acid production |
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| Omni cubes, grass hay, whole flaxseed and Cur Ost. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-09-13 3:54 PM
readytorodeo - 2015-09-13 1:07 PM
I feed Blue Bonnett sr intensify. Alfalfa hay and Cur Ost total support and add Cur Ost stomach.
I totally agree with Curost!!!! Believe it or not, ulcers can be treated without omeprazole
Did he do studies proving his product cures ulcers, or is it all anecdotal? |
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| My guess is no studies have been officially done and he is just getting results like a lot of other people. Sometimes if something just WORKS that is all the proof you need. Anytime you can change the quality of a horse's life without using drugs its a positive in my book. I don't need a piece of paper to know something works. Just my opinion. |
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| BBrewster - 2015-09-13 3:39 PM Renew Gold...and add Alfalfa atleast twice a day is what I'd do
This is what works on ours and I use meds when hauling. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-09-13 5:23 PM My guess is no studies have been officially done and he is just getting results like a lot of other people. Sometimes if something just WORKS that is all the proof you need. Anytime you can change the quality of a horse's life without using drugs its a positive in my book. I don't need a piece of paper to know something works. Just my opinion.
I agree. I had been giving Previcox daily for a year. She has always been ulcer prone. I am now 2 weeks into the Cur Ost and no Previcox and no ulcer symptoms. |
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| While I don't know about the Cur Ost whatever stuff, it sounds like a lot of money for something with no studies behind it??
But:
Getting off the sweet feed is the most important thing, like you said. A good combination for ulcer prone horses is alfalfa pellets and rice bran. I feed mine 3 lbs alfalfa pellets 2X daily, and 1-2 lbs rice bran 2X daily.
I've had excellent luck with SmartPak's SmartGI Ultra. It's an excellent pH balancer and really helped to rehab a bad case I had last year.
The only thing actually approved and proven to work on ulcers is Merial's Ulcergard or Gastrogard (same product). You can treat a little more cheaply by feeding the whole tube of Ulcergard daily, just like you would Gastrogard.
I would also be giving probiotic paste 2X daily, half a tube.
The good bugs get burned up with an unsettled stomach and can lead to lots of issues.
I hope your horse feels better! |
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| Is there any kind of ulcer supplement that can be fed every day? What do you guys think about the Exceed 6 Way 5 in 1 that does joints gastro oxygen etc? Would that help prevent ulcers? I'm asking because I was at a barrel race all weekend and my horse got upset from being in a stall where he couldn't see the horses next to him and he coliced last night. Doc said it's from being upset and the weather and he said he may have ulcers...he's never shown signs of having an ulcer.
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Location: Willows, CA | Call me during business hours pacific time and I would be happy to go over your feeding program. Warning, I do make horse feed. But, I can line out your program. The help is free. 530-934-9300 |
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Location: NE Texas | Alflafa, whole oats once daily just to mix my Cur-OST in. Absolutely the best money you'll spend on your horse is good quality hay. Adding in the Cur-OST is the second best money you'll spend. |
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| jess.davis1 - 2015-09-13 7:18 PM
Is there any kind of ulcer supplement that can be fed every day? What do you guys think about the Exceed 6 Way 5 in 1 that does joints gastro oxygen etc? Would that help prevent ulcers? I'm asking because I was at a barrel race all weekend and my horse got upset from being in a stall where he couldn't see the horses next to him and he coliced last night. Doc said it's from being upset and the weather and he said he may have ulcers...he's never shown signs of having an ulcer.
There are some journal articles and some old research studies that show papaya can be given long term without and long term negative effects. Papaya has been shown to prevent as well as cure ulcers in the stomach |
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| winwillows - 2015-09-13 7:49 PM
Call me during business hours pacific time and I would be happy to go over your feeding program. Warning, I do make horse feed. But, I can line out your program. The help is free. 530-934-9300
I've spoken to him myself. I can certainly vouch that he's very helpful! |
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| classicpotatochip - 2015-09-13 4:45 PM
While I don't know about the Cur Ost whatever stuff, it sounds like a lot of money for something with no studies behind it??
But:
Getting off the sweet feed is the most important thing, like you said. A good combination for ulcer prone horses is alfalfa pellets and rice bran. I feed mine 3 lbs alfalfa pellets 2X daily, and 1-2 lbs rice bran 2X daily.
I've had excellent luck with SmartPak's SmartGI Ultra. It's an excellent pH balancer and really helped to rehab a bad case I had last year.
The only thing actually approved and proven to work on ulcers is Merial's Ulcergard or Gastrogard (same product). You can treat a little more cheaply by feeding the whole tube of Ulcergard daily, just like you would Gastrogard.
I would also be giving probiotic paste 2X daily, half a tube.
The good bugs get burned up with an unsettled stomach and can lead to lots of issues.
I hope your horse feels better!
It is absolutely expensive ! But you get what you pay for. Im sure you could buy the ingredients yourself but the blend is proprietary. |
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Location: Oklahoma | ulcer meds are very expensive and even if you went the cheap route still high and doesn't fix the problem. I know of two people that say the ulcer meds are no longer helping their horses like it did before. These are super nice 1d horses too. I just know what is working for my horse. He was ulcery and I did the meds and he was turned out for 3 months and still ulcery doing nothing while on meds, I figured out it was grains that was making him that way as soon as I pulled the grains he made a huge change around and I havent had to treat for 6-8 months then he was diagnosed with copd and guess what he went on steriods because I knew of no other options well he started acting ulcery again and I only walked and slow trot and loped him no running barrels or hauling him. Then I came across the Cur-Ost and talking to Herbie and Flitastic decided to try within 5 days all his sypmtoms are gone and that is what is working for me. Good luck OP I know it can be very frustrating all we can do is share our experiences you just have to figure what works for you and your horse. just because there may not be studies or test that you think should be done doesn't mean that it doesnt work. I personally for me think it is a combination of feeding as natural as possible plue the cur-ost |
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