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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 9:45 AM
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Okay sooooo....I have a 4 month old mini aussie pup. Lately, she has been pooping in her kennel at night. I've been giving her a treat when she poops/pottys outside, she gets fed twice a day and I always make sure to take her outside right before bed for 20-30 minutes...but she will not poop outside at night. No changes in her food, so I don't understand why. Her kennel is the right size and isn't too big. She doesnt whine or anything during the evening...just plops right there and poops.

Is she ticked at me because I put her in the kennel in the evenings? Or what?! I have no idea what to do now, I'm getting sick of cleaning it out every morning.

 
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Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-09-16 10:16 AM
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I would plan on spending more time outside in the evenings, until she does her business outside. And how long after her night feeding are you taking her out?
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
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She gets fed when I get home from work around 6pm. 
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-16 10:17 AM
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I am not a dog expert by any means, but maybe try feeding 1x per day, early in the day? I would guess that the later feeding is causing the problem of her having to go in the middle of the night..

I feed my dogs in the AM and I know if we get off schedule and I feed at night I usually have a surprise in the morning, and they are house trained.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 10:25 AM
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veintiocho - 2015-09-16 10:17 AM I am not a dog expert by any means, but maybe try feeding 1x per day, early in the day? I would guess that the later feeding is causing the problem of her having to go in the middle of the night.. I feed my dogs in the AM and I know if we get off schedule and I feed at night I usually have a surprise in the morning, and they are house trained.

I didn't think about that, how much are you normally feeding in the AM? I feed typically about 1 cup each feeding since she's a fatty. 
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star1218
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 10:36 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-09-16 9:45 AM Okay sooooo....I have a 4 month old mini aussie pup. Lately, she has been pooping in her kennel at night. I've been giving her a treat when she poops/pottys outside, she gets fed twice a day and I always make sure to take her outside right before bed for 20-30 minutes...but she will not poop outside at night. No changes in her food, so I don't understand why. Her kennel is the right size and isn't too big. She doesnt whine or anything during the evening...just plops right there and poops.



Is she ticked at me because I put her in the kennel in the evenings? Or what?! I have no idea what to do now, I'm getting sick of cleaning it out every morning.


 

 Well, you don't have a choice. She can't go back inside until she poops. You know she has to go, since she goes in her kennel eventually.  You just have to be patient and wait her out.   Potty training is no picnic, just part of the process you have to go through.
good luck.
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Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-09-16 10:39 AM
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star1218 - 2015-09-16 8:36 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-09-16 9:45 AM Okay sooooo....I have a 4 month old mini aussie pup. Lately, she has been pooping in her kennel at night. I've been giving her a treat when she poops/pottys outside, she gets fed twice a day and I always make sure to take her outside right before bed for 20-30 minutes...but she will not poop outside at night. No changes in her food, so I don't understand why. Her kennel is the right size and isn't too big. She doesnt whine or anything during the evening...just plops right there and poops.



Is she ticked at me because I put her in the kennel in the evenings? Or what?! I have no idea what to do now, I'm getting sick of cleaning it out every morning.


 
 Well, you don't have a choice. She can't go back inside until she poops. You know she has to go, since she goes in her kennel eventually.  You just have to be patient and wait her out.   Potty training is no picnic, just part of the process you have to go through.

good luck.

 This is what I was going for. Wait her out. 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 10:41 AM
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I've tried waiting it out, but she runs around and plays with the barn cats...I have a 3 year old I have to get ready for bed as well.....and can't exactly sit outside for 2 hours hoping she will poop. During the day I leave her outside since she won't stray, just too afraid to do it during the evening. 
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-16 10:48 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2015-09-16 10:25 AM

veintiocho - 2015-09-16 10:17 AM I am not a dog expert by any means, but maybe try feeding 1x per day, early in the day? I would guess that the later feeding is causing the problem of her having to go in the middle of the night.. I feed my dogs in the AM and I know if we get off schedule and I feed at night I usually have a surprise in the morning, and they are house trained.

I didn't think about that, how much are you normally feeding in the AM? I feed typically about 1 cup each feeding since she's a fatty.Β 

I would just feed 2 cups in the AM then. I feed a coffee can of dog food per day for 3 medium sized dogs and they eat it throughout the day. The mini aussie is super hyper, goes 90mph 24/7, and stays very lean so she gets 2 eggs in the AM as well.
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-09-16 11:11 AM
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I wouldn't feed a small puppy, that young, only once a day.  You are liable to get one that is not only pooping in her crate, but puking bile (sp) too because her stomach is empty for too long.

As others have said, you have to wait her out.  Have her on a leash so she CAN'T mes with the cats.  If she doesn't "go" after a certain amount of time, and you have to take care of your 3yo, bring her in and put her in her crate, then take her BACK out again later.  How long is it between when you feed her and when you take her out?

 

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 11:12 AM
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RacingQH - 2015-09-16 11:11 AM I wouldn't feed a small puppy, that young, only once a day.  You are liable to get one that is not only pooping in her crate, but puking bile (sp) too because her stomach is empty for too long.



As others have said, you have to wait her out.  Have her on a leash so she CAN'T mes with the cats.  If she doesn't "go" after a certain amount of time, and you have to take care of your 3yo, bring her in and put her in her crate, then take her BACK out again later.  How long is it between when you feed her and when you take her out?


 

As in walk her on a leash to make sure she goes? I can do that.

I normally take her out 20 minutes after she eats.

 
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-09-16 11:22 AM
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Yes.  Take her out on a leash or long line and walk her around.  And, IMO 20 minutes isn't NEARLY long enough.  (As evidenced by the fact that she doesn't GO.  LOL)  I would wait closer to an hour.  (Unless you see her looking for a place to go before that.)  If you can get her on a schedule, and teach her to "go" on command, it will make your life a LOT easier.
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-09-16 11:26 AM
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I agree with the others.  Feed twice a day. Or feed her when  you have her out of her crate?  Also if you find out where she likes to go the bathroom take her on leash and tell her to go potty.   Puppys take time....... 
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star1218
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-09-16 11:34 AM
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Yep put her on a leash. Potty time needs to be just that and not play time with the cats.  Walk her out in some taller grass, don't just stand there and expect her to go.  get her moving and smelling and I bet that will help too.  
You have to make the commitment to instill the right habits, maybe feed her 2nd meal a little bit earlier in the evening so that you have the time to spend.
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-09-16 11:37 AM
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Another question:  How long is she crated between the last time you take her out at night, and when you let her out in the morning?
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-16 11:37 AM
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RacingQH - 2015-09-16 11:11 AM

I wouldn't feed a small puppy, that young, only once a day.Β  You are liable to get one that is not only pooping in her crate, but puking bile (sp) too because her stomach is empty for too long.

As others have said, you have to wait her out.Β  Have her on a leash so she CAN'T mes with the cats.Β  If she doesn't "go" after a certain amount of time, and you have to take care of your 3yo, bring her in and put her in her crate, then take her BACK out again later.Β  How long is it between when you feed her and when you take her out?

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I didn't realize she was so young, so disregard my comment! Racing QH seems to know what she's taking about!
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2015-09-16 11:44 AM
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Mine go out straight away after they eat.... Cole pooped in his crate a couple times too.... Take a small treat with you and the second she goes give it to her and praise her... Cade is smart... she'll catch on. Cole took about a week with treats to get it.
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-09-16 2:22 PM
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 Im no expert either but I agree with racing.. a young pup needs fed small meals frequently , also realize it takes a few hours for it pass thru her gut .
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Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-09-16 2:46 PM
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 When I've trained my pups to "go" outside, I also associated it with a verbal command. I would say "go potty" every single time they would begin to go, be it #1 or #2. And then PRAISE and say "good potty!", and pet and give a treat when they had completed. Lots of positive reinforcements.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-09-17 12:04 AM
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~BINGO~ - 2015-09-16 2:46 PM

Β When I've trained my pups to "go" outside, I also associated it with a verbal command. I would say "go potty" every single time they would begin to go, be it #1 or #2. And then PRAISE and say "good potty!", and pet and give a treat when they had completed. Lots of positive reinforcements.

My Husky knows the difference between when I say "pee pee" and "poo poo" and I can tell by how excited he gets which one we're going out for!! He needs tall grass for number 2. . . Who knows! And thank goodness he's pretty much on a routine for number 2 in the late afternoon, which makes life much easier. He always get a "good boy" when he does his business, and when we're out I'm constantly telling him "poo poo" so he doesn't forget what we're out there for. (I often wonder what the neighbors think hearing "Luca, poo poo" over and over and over. . . . . ) Good luck with getting your baby lined out.

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