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Location: So. California | I enjoyed the debate last night and believe the candidates did much better than the 1st debate. I personally liked the 3 hours (though it must have been tough standing on stage that long) with 11 people, they could have easily gone another hour as several key issues weren't addressed. Maybe they need to split the candidates up a little more evenly 1/2 on one night, 1/2 on the next night (both prime time) to ensure that all candidates get a fair chance on the stage. Don't know the answer, but a lead-up debate to the "prime time" debate, just doesn't feel right to me.
Rubio = hit it out of the park last night. I think he spoke and looked presidential. His thoughtful detailed response on foreign policy issues was spot on. He looks and sounds like the total package. I think he won the debate.
Fiorina = She had another stand out performance with her grasp of key issues and her response toTrump's comment about her face was priceless! She has a strong sense of direction and it showed. She did take a few hits on her HP tenure and her repetitive canned response, didn't fly so well the second or third time around. To balance that, she did make a few strong jabs at Trump, well played! Overall, a strong performance. Maybe in the next debate she can smile just a tad more...
Bush = Hit and miss for me. Sometimes he sounded and looked presidential, sometimes not so much. He was just too nice and backed off a bit too much from Trump. His response on the $10 bill question - Margaret Thatcher, had me scratching my head. He couldn't come up with ONE female American?
Trump = Lacked substance and knowledge. His attack on Paul out of the gate had me baffled. He couldn't name the heads of states, had little grasp on foreign policy, just floundered around a bit. I don't think he lost much with his supporters, but he didn't do himself any favors either. He needs to quit being the showman and start acting more like a statesman, instead of a bully at the pulpit.
Christie = He finally jumped into the race ready to rumble. His introduction by pointing to the audience, making it about the American people, well done! His response on 9/11 was perfect and came from personal experience, which is where he shines. His grasp of foreign affairs - on target. Christie has rejoined the race.
Carson = Like him. An intelligent, educated man. Thoughtful, wise and sees the entire picture. Unfortunately, he is missing that something extra to make him a true contender. I see him more as a VP or highly sought after advisor position.
The rest of the pack Paul, Cruz, Walker & Kasich had their moments, they needed to showcase themselves a bit more to rise to the top. Huckabee spoke to his religious base and I believe his numbers will fall.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Trump was Trump. He's a phenomenon that has the pundits baffled. Already the expectations of Trump differ from anyone else. He's really stirred the pot and people love that he's beholding to nobody. He is really the only one on the stage who can spout off about special interests without looking like a hypocrite. So far he's gotten away without demonstrating nuance or specifics. He held his own. That's all he probably needs at this point. His comments on vaccines and autism tell me he has the potential to be dangerous.
Carly was sharp as a tack. I actually like how she responds to critics on her HP tenure. Tom Perkin's endorsement is a pretty powerful message, since he was an HP power broker who was one of the forces behind her departure from HP. Basically, he admits it was a big mistake at the time:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/08/31/carly-fiorin...
Ben Carson just solidified his image as a calm, thoughtful, well informed man who exudes competence, while demonstrating humility at the same time. He did very well, and his story is incredibly powerful.
Rubio didn't dissappoint me at all. He never has. He reminds me of JFK in some ways.
The rest all had a few good moments. Nobody really "bombed".
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | We are getting to know each candidate and have plenty of time to do so. I find it ridiculous when the media thinks we all should know who we are going to vote for right now. If it was that simple why are they starting this crap a year and a half out? LOL
I think Trump is the best thing to happen to politics in a long time and he is saying what a lot of us say and think but are not heard. He is leading the polls know but I think we see those numbers drop as the debates continue and we start to find out what each candidate stands for and what their solutions are for. I really want to like Carly but for some reason I'm having a hard time. |
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Location: United States | Bear - 2015-09-17 2:12 PM
Trump was Trump. He's a phenomenon that has the pundits baffled. Already the expectations of Trump differ from anyone else. He's really stirred the pot and people love that he's beholding to nobody. He is really the only one on the stage who can spout off about special interests without looking like a hypocrite. So far he's gotten away without demonstrating nuance or specifics. He held his own. That's all he probably needs at this point. His comments on vaccines and autism tell me he has the potential to be dangerous.
Carly was sharp as a tack. I actually like how she responds to critics on her HP tenure. Tom Perkin's endorsement is a pretty powerful message, since he was an HP power broker who was one of the forces behind her departure from HP. Basically, he admits it was a big mistake at the time:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/08/31/carly-fiorin...
Ben Carson just solidified his image as a calm, thoughtful, well informed man who exudes competence, while demonstrating humility at the same time. He did very well, and his story is incredibly powerful.
Rubio didn't dissappoint me at all. He never has. He reminds me of JFK in some ways.
The rest all had a few good moments. Nobody really "bombed".
WELL SAID about Trump and his opinion on vaccinations. FREAKY SCARY!
You nailed it with Dr. Ben Carson! LOVE LOVE LOVE him.
Rubio is a wise old soul with authority. I am mesmerized by his delivery and assurance. I do really like him.
Carly makes me nervous. Not a fan. Her approach is too prepared and memorized. |
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Location: Alabama | LOOOOVE Ben Carson, heard him speak few years ago at a conference, he is amazing! So down to earth, educated & respecatble |
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Location: United States | Carson will figure it out. He is running a smidge behind parallel to Trump, right where he needs to be! He has big ideas up his sleeve, he is VERY smart and surrounded by resourceful people. They are actually many steps ahead and just perfect with their timing. Its like a horse race guys. And this thing call intellect, its Bad Azz and goes deeper than just book smarts. Dr. Ben Carson wants to work for America, not himself. He has no political ego. You want to talk about prosperity and self growth? You will NEVER know accomplishment more rapid than Dr. Ben Carson. Ever. |
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| I was for Carly when Carly wasn't cool. She knows her game and how to play it. She's savvy, strong, and steady.
Trump is a great **** stirrer, time for him to lick the spoon.
Rubio would make a great VP for Carly. He's a tad young but I like him and he could bring a little political experience to the ticket.
Chris Christie for Attorney General. He was a FANTASTIC prosecutor but not great at appeal across the board.
Lindsey Graham for Secretary of State. He's got foriegn affairs down and understands the threat in the Middle East.
Ben Carson for Surgeon General. Why has this not happened yet?!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I would think, in the age of "women's equality and empowerment", we will see women flocking to her in droves. She's a real pioneer, and personifies a strong, smart, unshakable leader with authenticity. When she has been attacked, she has shown that she can punch back. I think that almost scares some people, including a lot of women. Her story is actually similar to Dr Carson's in many ways. If Fiorina ends up with the nomination, you can bet the Democrats "War on Women" battle cry will be toned down considerably, in favor of a plan B. |
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Location: Deep South | pippy - 2015-09-17 1:44 PM Bear - 2015-09-17 2:12 PM Trump was Trump. He's a phenomenon that has the pundits baffled. Already the expectations of Trump differ from anyone else. He's really stirred the pot and people love that he's beholding to nobody. He is really the only one on the stage who can spout off about special interests without looking like a hypocrite. So far he's gotten away without demonstrating nuance or specifics. He held his own. That's all he probably needs at this point. His comments on vaccines and autism tell me he has the potential to be dangerous. Carly was sharp as a tack. I actually like how she responds to critics on her HP tenure. Tom Perkin's endorsement is a pretty powerful message, since he was an HP power broker who was one of the forces behind her departure from HP. Basically, he admits it was a big mistake at the time: http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/08/31/carly-fiorin... Ben Carson just solidified his image as a calm, thoughtful, well informed man who exudes competence, while demonstrating humility at the same time. He did very well, and his story is incredibly powerful. Rubio didn't dissappoint me at all. He never has. He reminds me of JFK in some ways. The rest all had a few good moments. Nobody really "bombed". WELL SAID about Trump and his opinion on vaccinations. FREAKY SCARY! You nailed it with Dr. Ben Carson! LOVE LOVE LOVE him. Rubio is a wise old soul with authority. I am mesmerized by his delivery and assurance. I do really like him. Carly makes me nervous. Not a fan. Her approach is too prepared and memorized.
When is being prepared a bad thing?
I loved that she had a precise, researched answer for every question. Much better than some of the fumbling around or just complete silence on some of the topics from the other candidates.
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Location: United States | BamaCanChaser - 2015-09-17 3:35 PM
pippy - 2015-09-17 1:44 PM Bear - 2015-09-17 2:12 PM Trump was Trump. He's a phenomenon that has the pundits baffled. Already the expectations of Trump differ from anyone else. He's really stirred the pot and people love that he's beholding to nobody. He is really the only one on the stage who can spout off about special interests without looking like a hypocrite. So far he's gotten away without demonstrating nuance or specifics. He held his own. That's all he probably needs at this point. His comments on vaccines and autism tell me he has the potential to be dangerous. Carly was sharp as a tack. I actually like how she responds to critics on her HP tenure. Tom Perkin's endorsement is a pretty powerful message, since he was an HP power broker who was one of the forces behind her departure from HP. Basically, he admits it was a big mistake at the time: http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/08/31/carly-fiorin... Ben Carson just solidified his image as a calm, thoughtful, well informed man who exudes competence, while demonstrating humility at the same time. He did very well, and his story is incredibly powerful. Rubio didn't dissappoint me at all. He never has. He reminds me of JFK in some ways. The rest all had a few good moments. Nobody really "bombed". WELL SAID about Trump and his opinion on vaccinations. FREAKY SCARY! You nailed it with Dr. Ben Carson! LOVE LOVE LOVE him. Rubio is a wise old soul with authority. I am mesmerized by his delivery and assurance. I do really like him. Carly makes me nervous. Not a fan. Her approach is too prepared and memorized.
When is being prepared a bad thing? I loved that she had a precise, researched answer for every question. Much better than some of the fumbling around or just complete silence on some of the topics from the other candidates.
Being prepared is critical, it goes hand in hand with reaching goals. but I believe you also have to have the gift of impromptu speaking. She isn't running for a CEO position again. I know a lot of what comes out of the candidates mouth is studied and prepared, but IMO she looked like an actress. She is strong woman, I give her that. Absolutely. I would like to actually watch the wheels turn in her head.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Carly did make some impromptu comments, if you were paying attention. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2015-09-17 4:40 PM She is nothing but a warmonger, next...
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Location: Florida.. | I didnt see it but have read comments.. Rubio is like JFK.. I could watch him all day talking. hes bold, strong, a true leader
Carson I really admire and respect alot.
Trump is Trump and will always love him
Carly No thanks.. something just doesnt jive for me.. she reminds me of Hillary.I personally do not feel a woman should be President.. (sorry girls)
Rice could have pulled it off maybe.. but thats all I would say could have..
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I hadnt' seen Carson before, I was expecting better from him to tell you the truth. I thought Trump had a very weak night, regardless I love that he is in the race just because he is a pot stirrer and that is exactly what we need right now IMO, need to shake up the status quo. I thought Rubio was excellent as was Fiorina and I thought Bush and Christie had some high points also. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | For me, right now, Carly is my pick. I can see her standing toe-to-toe with foreign leaders and having their respect -- they would know in no uncertain terms that she is rock solid and has done her homework. I do like Carson. Hmmmmm---- Carly + Ben. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | On Fox News today they showed some old clips of Carly when she was with HP. Cavuto asked her back then when she was going to run for office and she said she had a company to run.
Then later on McCain came on and said she was part of his economic team and said she was a brilliant woman. |
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Location: North Dakota | I was impressed with almost everyone last night. Fiorina and Rubio were far and away the best. They were articulate, thorough, and precise. Especially Fiorina. She was like *boom, drop the mike*. Trump never impresses me in debates but I like him when he's speaking on his own. I like him but he just doesn't seem to do well with the debates. I thought Christi sounded better than he has but I'm still no fan. Rand came off as bitter and rather unlikeable as usual (not that I don't agree with him on some things). I really can not stand Kasich and Bush. WAY too moderate and Bush is so exceptionally bland. Ick. Carson didn't do it for me either. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE him I just don't know if he's prepared, especially on foreign policy, to be the commander in chief. |
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Location: North Dakota | pippy - 2015-09-17 2:52 PM BamaCanChaser - 2015-09-17 3:35 PM pippy - 2015-09-17 1:44 PM Bear - 2015-09-17 2:12 PM Trump was Trump. He's a phenomenon that has the pundits baffled. Already the expectations of Trump differ from anyone else. He's really stirred the pot and people love that he's beholding to nobody. He is really the only one on the stage who can spout off about special interests without looking like a hypocrite. So far he's gotten away without demonstrating nuance or specifics. He held his own. That's all he probably needs at this point. His comments on vaccines and autism tell me he has the potential to be dangerous. Carly was sharp as a tack. I actually like how she responds to critics on her HP tenure. Tom Perkin's endorsement is a pretty powerful message, since he was an HP power broker who was one of the forces behind her departure from HP. Basically, he admits it was a big mistake at the time: http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/08/31/carly-fiorin... Ben Carson just solidified his image as a calm, thoughtful, well informed man who exudes competence, while demonstrating humility at the same time. He did very well, and his story is incredibly powerful. Rubio didn't dissappoint me at all. He never has. He reminds me of JFK in some ways. The rest all had a few good moments. Nobody really "bombed". WELL SAID about Trump and his opinion on vaccinations. FREAKY SCARY! You nailed it with Dr. Ben Carson! LOVE LOVE LOVE him. Rubio is a wise old soul with authority. I am mesmerized by his delivery and assurance. I do really like him. Carly makes me nervous. Not a fan. Her approach is too prepared and memorized. When is being prepared a bad thing?
I loved that she had a precise, researched answer for every question. Much better than some of the fumbling around or just complete silence on some of the topics from the other candidates.
Being prepared is critical, it goes hand in hand with reaching goals. but I believe you also have to have the gift of impromptu speaking. She isn't running for a CEO position again. I know a lot of what comes out of the candidates mouth is studied and prepared, but IMO she looked like an actress. She is strong woman, I give her that. Absolutely. I would like to actually watch the wheels turn in her head.
Her response to Trump's insulting her face/persona had to be impromptu, because she could not have predicted the order of the questions or what the questions/Trump and Bush's responses would be. |
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Location: North Dakota | HorseMommyFiveO - 2015-09-17 2:03 PM I was for Carly when Carly wasn't cool. She knows her game and how to play it. She's savvy, strong, and steady. Trump is a great **** stirrer, time for him to lick the spoon. Rubio would make a great VP for Carly. He's a tad young but I like him and he could bring a little political experience to the ticket. Chris Christie for Attorney General. He was a FANTASTIC prosecutor but not great at appeal across the board. Lindsey Graham for Secretary of State. He's got foriegn affairs down and understands the threat in the Middle East. Ben Carson for Surgeon General. Why has this not happened yet?!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that!!!!! |
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