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| I have a horse that I do not click with, so he is for sale. I have someone interested to buy the horse to work on a ranch. Here is the question, first they want me have shoes put on, he is barefoot right now, they want to take him for 1 week to ride at the ranch, make sure they get along with him. Ok, I have no problems with that, well today they tell me when they do take him they are Not responsible if something should happen to him. What do I do? there is chance they may purchase him, so if I say No on week's try, I may lose the sale, so far they are the only ones that came to look at him. Should I draw up a contract? |
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Location: Kansas | Can you get a temporary insurance put on him? Or go ahead and insure him |
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Location: Texas | i would draw up a contract and they ARE responsible if something happens in their care. |
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| ABSOLUTELY draw up a contract and they should be liable for any vet expense and the price of the horse if something should happen. That's what I did with my mare when an NFR girl took her for a month. Put in that the girl was responsible for all vet bills, feed, and purchasing price of horse incase of a fatality. And that IF the horse was taken to a vet, it had to be ok'd through me before treatment began UNLESS it was an emergency situation such as colic or broken leg and I could not be reached. Then and only then was it her discretion about what to do. |
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| I would keep him at my house. Personally, I think they are asking a little too much of you. That is like saying I will buy your used truck but you have to put new tires on it first. Oh, by the way, we want to run in the race on the Baja to see if the truck will actually hold up. The ranch people around here know what they are looking for. They can get on a horse , ride off and know in a matter of minutes if the horse is what they want.
Suppose you have a contract and the horse gets hurt, do you really expect the people to pay you if the horse gets hurt?
Edited by streakysox 2015-09-17 2:30 PM
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Location: Mountains of VA | You are better off to say NO and loose the sale than get back a horse that is ruined mentally or physically.
I would never let one of mine go out on trial because too many things can happen.
IF you do, get a CONTRACT and have them pay in full first! It would be their expense to put shoes on him since he currently does not need them at your place. It is their responsibility if anything goes wrong that is why they should pay in full before they take the horse.
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| Is this ranch getting ready to ship out or something? Call me cynical, but to me thus screams that they have something big happening and need an extra horse for the work. I'd be willing to bet money that st the end of the week, they return the horse and say he just isn't what they are looking for. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | They are trying to put too many things into this for a way for them to get out of buying this horse. I would turn this down in a heartbeat.. I think they just want a use of your horse for a week. |
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| JUST SAY NO. |
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| Something smells fishy to me...I'd pass personally.
Trials to me feel like the last barrier and we handle them as such - you come try the horse, like the horse, agree on a price, vet check the horse - so we both know what condition he's leaving my property in - pay me in full, then with a contract you can take him for a week. Keep him or bring him back and I'll refund you all but $xxxx of your purchase price, insurance on the off chance you've f'd up my investment and I have to crawl on him and fix him. You bring him back in physical condition other than what he left in and vet bills to return him to prior condition are your responsibility.
Needless to say we don't so many trials. Too much liability. |
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Location: Florida.. | Do not allow this . pay or its no.. |
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Location: Missouri | Bibliafarm - 2015-09-17 9:43 PM
Do not allow this . pay or its no..
I agree with others...I think they're asking too much of you. Why should they be allowed to take your horse but not be liable of something happens to your horse while he's in their care? |
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Location: Florida.. | SKM - 2015-09-17 3:42 PM Is this ranch getting ready to ship out or something? Call me cynical, but to me thus screams that they have something big happening and need an extra horse for the work. I'd be willing to bet money that st the end of the week, they return the horse and say he just isn't what they are looking for.
considering they want her to have him ready (shoes) I agree.lol. sounds a bit fishy to me.. a good rancher can tell like someone said if horse will work or not IMHO.. if he doesnt they will make it work. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I would say no. |
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| streakysox - 2015-09-17 2:26 PM
I would keep him at my house. Personally, I think they are asking a little too much of you. That is like saying I will buy your used truck but you have to put new tires on it first. Oh, by the way, we want to run in the race on the Baja to see if the truck will actually hold up. The ranch people around here know what they are looking for. They can get on a horse , ride off and know in a matter of minutes if the horse is what they want.
Suppose you have a contract and the horse gets hurt, do you really expect the people to pay you if the horse gets hurt?
THIS! 1000% |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Nope. Also just because you may have a contract, does NOT mean they will comply with the terms. Then it's up to you to get an attorney involved. You may spend more than the horse is worth trying to get your money out of them and you may not win anyway.
WAY too many strings attached on this deal. Walk away. If they want him, they will just buy him. If they don't, they didn't want him very bad.  |
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| Some people are crazy! And I would run away from this craziness! The whole situation sounds like nothing but trouble. I would definitely rather miss out on a potential sale then have to deal with the aftermath of this. I actually have a purchase agreement that states a buyer has one week from the time of purchase to have the horse vetted. However, it cannot be returned to competition or training (basically any kind of riding/exercise) prior to the exam, and if the horse fails the exam it must be returned in the exact same condition as when it left my place (any injuries incurred while in their possession must be healed completely). And they pay full price at the time of purchase. Like others have said, I would likely have to pay legal fees to enforce the contract, but at least I have a signed paper stating they agreed to the terms of the sale. |
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| In deals like this I've gone through it's always been "If something happens to him, he's yours and you send me the check." |
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| No. Pay cash, horse gets on trailer, you have 24 hours to vet him, bring him back for your cash back or I send you papers and the deal is finalized. Period.
Edited by classicpotatochip 2015-09-18 3:29 PM
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| Griz - 2015-09-18 5:37 AM streakysox - 2015-09-17 2:26 PM I would keep him at my house. Personally, I think they are asking a little too much of you. That is like saying I will buy your used truck but you have to put new tires on it first. Oh, by the way, we want to run in the race on the Baja to see if the truck will actually hold up. The ranch people around here know what they are looking for. They can get on a horse , ride off and know in a matter of minutes if the horse is what they want. Suppose you have a contract and the horse gets hurt, do you really expect the people to pay you if the horse gets hurt? THIS! 1000%
Ditto, and if they are asking for somethng like this they are not people I would be wanting to deal with. |
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