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| Who feeds oats, why, and what kind? |
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Location: NE Texas | I do, whole oat, but only feed them as a medium to mix my Cur-OST in. I rely on my hay (alfalfa) for the nutritional value. I stepped away from processed feeds back in May and will never look back! |
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| Anytime you feed oats, you need a grain balancer in it as well. Oats do not have any kind of anything for them. They are just empty calories.
We feed it as a filler to all of ours, along with Essential K/Alfalfa pellet 50/50 mix and whatever other supplements the particular horse is on. We feed whole oats usually, but will get the rolled oats if the whole are sold out. There isn't truely a difference in what it does for the horse, they are just fillers. |
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Location: North Dakota | I like oats because they are very digestible, unlike corn and barley. My horses get 2lbs whole oats a day with 2lbs Progressive Nutrition grass balancer, .5lbs renew gold, grass hay, alfalfa, and SmartPaks. |
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Location: West Texas | We utilize whole oats in our Omnis Complete. I like oats, but not all oats are created equal. The heavier the oat the better. We use 38-40lb oats in our products. I would advise on buying a quality whole oat. I have used and think that Woody's line of oats are quality.
Whole oats have the most nutrition. Rolled or crimped oats are not necessary as they provide only a minimum increase in digestibility while having less fat and nutrients, due to oxidation. The increase in energy is offset by a higher cost as well. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I have recently started feeding whole oats with my Renew Gold/Alfalfa diet for my gelding. I was hoping he would get a little bit greater sense of urgency. He is very laid back. I'm still waiting on the desired results.... But he does like the oats. |
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| Herbie - 2015-09-22 6:44 AM
I do, whole oat, but only feed them as a medium to mix my Cur-OST in. I rely on my hay (alfalfa) for the nutritional value. I stepped away from processed feeds back in May and will never look back!Â
I made the switch with Herbie and my horses have never looked, felt, or ran better. If you feed a quality FORAGE with your oats you do not need to add any vitamins, minerals, balancers. etc. Horses should get all they need from their forage. Assuming their hind gut is healthy and working good.
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Location: West Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-09-22 10:17 AM
Herbie - 2015-09-22 6:44 AM
I do, whole oat, but only feed them as a medium to mix my Cur-OST in. I rely on my hay (alfalfa) for the nutritional value. I stepped away from processed feeds back in May and will never look back!Â
I made the switch with Herbie and my horses have never looked, felt, or ran better. If you feed a quality FORAGE with your oats you do not need to add any vitamins, minerals, balancers. etc. Horses should get all they need from their forage.
Flitastic,
I would agree with that. I have seen the same results.
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-22 7:02 AM
I like oats because they are very digestible, unlike corn and barley. My horses get 2lbs whole oats a day with 2lbs Progressive Nutrition grass balancer, .5lbs renew gold, grass hay, alfalfa, and SmartPaks.Â
5 pounds of Renew Gold??? THats about 4x regular suggested feeding. I would be looking at what the hind gut is doing. |
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Location: Kansas | FLITASTIC - 2015-09-22 10:24 AM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-22 7:02 AM I like oats because they are very digestible, unlike corn and barley. My horses get 2lbs whole oats a day with 2lbs Progressive Nutrition grass balancer, .5lbs renew gold, grass hay, alfalfa, and SmartPaks. 5 pounds of Renew Gold??? THats about 4x regular suggested feeding. I would be looking at what the hind gut is doing.
Read it again...... (.5lb) which is half a pound |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-09-22 10:17 AM
Herbie - 2015-09-22 6:44 AM
I do, whole oat, but only feed them as a medium to mix my Cur-OST in. I rely on my hay (alfalfa) for the nutritional value. I stepped away from processed feeds back in May and will never look back!Â
I made the switch with Herbie and my horses have never looked, felt, or ran better. If you feed a quality FORAGE with your oats you do not need to add any vitamins, minerals, balancers. etc. Horses should get all they need from their forage. Assuming their hind gut is healthy and working good.
I made the switch after Herbie started her posts and talking to and reading Dr. Schell's papers. I, too, will never go back to processed feeds. I have learned how important it is to have their digestive system healthy. I never realized how much it effected the other systems. Of course now I think "DUH!!!" LOL! |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I feed whole oats with just a little bit of cracked corn. 1,200 # oats and 300 # cracked corn then I put in all my minerals, salts, proteins, soy oils and vitamins in. They get 2.5# per feeding twice a day. They are on pasture that is half grass and half alfalfa 24/7. I have tried the processed feed and here in the winter time they just don't get enough calories to keep their weight on. They are waiting at the bunk to get fed. Its good training as soon as I pull up with the pickup they come running. It works for me. My horses are outside with no building just trees 24/7. I never had a sick horse yet.
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| BS Hauler - 2015-09-22 8:53 AM
I feed whole oats with just a little bit of cracked corn. 1,200 # oats and 300 # cracked corn then I put in all my minerals, salts, proteins, soy oils and vitamins in. They get 2.5# per feeding twice a day. They are on pasture that is half grass and half alfalfa 24/7. I have tried the processed feed and here in the winter time they just don't get enough calories to keep their weight on. They are waiting at the bunk to get fed. Its good training as soon as I pull up with the pickup they come running. It works for me. My horses are outside with no building just trees 24/7. I never had a sick horse yet.
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My horses best never act cold again down here in Southern California!!!! You have some tough ones! Very admirable. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | BS Hauler - 2015-09-22 10:53 AM I feed whole oats with just a little bit of cracked corn. 1,200 # oats and 300 # cracked corn then I put in all my minerals, salts, proteins, soy oils and vitamins in. They get 2.5# per feeding twice a day. They are on pasture that is half grass and half alfalfa 24/7. I have tried the processed feed and here in the winter time they just don't get enough calories to keep their weight on. They are waiting at the bunk to get fed. Its good training as soon as I pull up with the pickup they come running. It works for me. My horses are outside with no building just trees 24/7. I never had a sick horse yet.
OH MY......!!! My horses and I would day within the first 5 minutes. No way - no how. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-22 8:45 AM Anytime you feed oats, you need a grain balancer in it as well. Oats do not have any kind of anything for them. They are just empty calories. We feed it as a filler to all of ours, along with Essential K/Alfalfa pellet 50/50 mix and whatever other supplements the particular horse is on. We feed whole oats usually, but will get the rolled oats if the whole are sold out. There isn't truely a difference in what it does for the horse, they are just fillers.
This information is completely wrong. Read up a little on the differences in oats and the actual nutritional contribution they make.
http://www.barnmice.com/profiles/blogs/horse-nutrition-quick-facts-on |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-22 9:45 AM Anytime you feed oats, you need a grain balancer in it as well. Oats do not have any kind of anything for them. They are just empty calories. We feed it as a filler to all of ours, along with Essential K/Alfalfa pellet 50/50 mix and whatever other supplements the particular horse is on. We feed whole oats usually, but will get the rolled oats if the whole are sold out. There isn't truely a difference in what it does for the horse, they are just fillers.
Rach beat me to it, but you really need to read up on your information. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-22 7:02 AM I like oats because they are very digestible, unlike corn and barley. My horses get 2lbs whole oats a day with 2lbs Progressive Nutrition grass balancer, .5lbs renew gold, grass hay, alfalfa, and SmartPaks. As long as the corn and barley are rolled, they are more digestible than oats. They are also more dense (more energy per # than oats) and must be fed in moderation. In order of calorie and energy content, corn comes before barley and oats are the least of the major grains. Oats have more fiber and are least likely to cause digestive problems in horses. They have been a staple of the horse industry for many years. But when fed in large meals, all cerial grains cause digestive upset and ulcers.
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2012/04/nutrition-selection-and-use-of-feedstuffs-in-horses.pdf
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Grains have up to 12% protein. Most are between 10-12%. But they are very low in calcium and high in phosphorus. So if you feed grass hay and grain, you will need something (ration balancer or alfalfa) to bring the calcium level up. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | OregonBR - 2015-09-22 10:28 AM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-22 7:02 AM I like oats because they are very digestible, unlike corn and barley. My horses get 2lbs whole oats a day with 2lbs Progressive Nutrition grass balancer, .5lbs renew gold, grass hay, alfalfa, and SmartPaks. As long as the corn and barley are rolled, they are more digestible than oats. They are also more dense (more energy per # than oats) and must be fed in moderation. In order of calorie and energy content, corn comes before barley and oats are the least of the major grains. Oats have more fiber and are least likely to cause digestive problems in horses. They have been a staple of the horse industry for many years. But when fed in large meals, all cerial grains cause digestive upset and ulcers.
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2012/04/n...
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| OregonBR - 2015-09-22 1:32 PM
Grains have up to 12% protein. Most are between 10-12%. But they are very low in calcium and high in phosphorus. Â So if you feed grass hay and grain, you will need something (ration balancer or alfalfa) to bring the calcium level up. Â Â
This is what I meant... I didn't word it well in my post. Oats need something along with it (we use a grain balancer and alfalfa - Makes our horses work the best) to get everything necessary for a healthy horse. Oats themselves will not give them everything the need. |
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