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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-09-23 11:49 AM
Subject: Back cinch or no back cinch?



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Do you use a back cinch or just leave it bare? What works for you and your horse/s?

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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-09-23 11:51 AM
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I have a flex tree so always use a back cinch.
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MC1993
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-09-23 11:59 AM
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I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people without the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it

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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-23 12:02 PM
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You should always have a connector if you use a back cinch?? I hate back cinches myself and will never use one unless absolutely necessary. Way too easy for them to become bucking straps if not put on correctly. I believe if your saddle fits right, you shouldn't need one, treeless or flex trees are the exception (not a fan of those either though).

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Lyric203
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-09-23 12:07 PM
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Always use one and make sure its on tight! My saddle fits well but I still feel a lot more comfortable using one. I use on no matter what I am riding.
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-09-23 12:11 PM
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I always use a back cinch and it's always SNUG. if you're not going to have it good and snug, just leave it off. 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-09-23 12:13 PM
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MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it

You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. 
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MC1993
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-09-23 12:15 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM

MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it

You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. 

Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-09-23 12:18 PM
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MC1993 - 2015-09-23 10:15 AM
TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM
MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it
You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. 
Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh

Oh good...WHEW! I was a little concerned there. LOL 
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-23 12:20 PM
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MC1993 - 2015-09-23 1:15 PM

TheOldGrayMare - 2015-09-23 1:13 PM

MC1993 - 2015-09-23 9:59 AM I have one on my saddle, always have, I have it tight, but not roper tight. I terrifies me when I see people with the strap that connect to the front cinch or when it is super loose. Why have one? Its just gonna cause a wreck when your horse sticks a back leg thru it

You should ALWAYS see someone using a connector strap when using a back cinch - otherwise they are asking for that back cinch to be a bucking strap. 

Ok serious Typo It's supposed to say WITHOUT the strap!! Duh

Haha, I was like...What? You want a bucking horse? haha That makes sense now.
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Pocob
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-23 12:21 PM
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I have saddles with and without a back cinch.  I have had some horses come in that I throw a saddle on with the back cinch and they decide to kick out or buck with me in protest.  So, I end up switching saddles and they are happy in their world again.  The majority of the horses I ride really don't care.  I like the back cinch. 
 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-09-23 12:21 PM
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I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity.
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-09-23 7:00 PM
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Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-09-23 10:05 PM
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Used to always ride with a back girth but bought new saddles none of them have a back girth so I never use them any more. Even my Josey Ultimate came without one.
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-09-23 10:54 PM
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 I always ride with one, and it's on the tighter side of snug.  It takes the pressure off the withers and I don't have to cinch up the front so much.  
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2015-09-23 11:14 PM
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 Agreed. Always use one, and even if I'm just walking around it's snug. When I run it's tight. When I've bought saddles without, that's the first accessory I order for it!
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-09-24 8:42 AM
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wimpyb - 2015-09-23 7:00 PM

Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.

I agree with what you said. I "prefer" a back cinch always, from first saddling to last.
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-24 8:50 AM
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I have one saddle that does have a back cinch and one saddle that I removed the back cinch out of necessity.  One of my horses was always very sensitive even to just brush in that area and it aggravated him and he would not collect up through his body or stretch out and reach.  I've had the horse since he was 6 months old, and he'd had a back cinch on since the first day I started saddleing him, except for when we sent him to the track.  I do have the sensitivity issue solved, however I have not added the back cinch or billets back on his particular saddle, as I don't want to fix what isn't broken at this point, as it's been a roller coaster ride with him already...he's just a weirdo.  

I do prefer the look of having a back cinch, but if a saddle fits properly and is balanced, it's not a make or break deal for me to have one on there honestly.  I try to do what my horse seems most comfortable with, and if that is to lose the back cinch, then i'm ok with that. 

 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-24 8:56 AM
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I won't ride without one, I have a roper front and back cinch
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-24 9:30 AM
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Tdove - 2015-09-24 8:42 AM

wimpyb - 2015-09-23 7:00 PM

Horses have 60% of their weight shoulder forward. If you aren't using a back cinch snugged up, you are making them heavier on the
frontend. Collection is harder for them to do properly. I don't ride any saddle on any horse without one. They need to use them like
they learned to ride with a saddle, a bit and a rider. I feel it's not an option.

I agree with what you said. I "prefer" a back cinch always, from first saddling to last.

Yep, what ya'll said!
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