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Location: WI | I am really at a loss as to what we could be dealing with, and the vets are stumped as well. Here is kind of a Time line of what has been happening the past week. Sorry this is so lengthy!
Tillie is an almost 2 year old Toy australian shepherd, and she is a peanut weighing in at 9 pounds. Last Tuesday when i got home from work at 4:30 i came home to diarrhea all over her kennel and a very worked up pup. When she was let outside she started throwing up, as well as continued the watery diarrhea. This went on for an hour and got to the point where she had nothing left inside her, and she was straining to poop but nothing happened, and would throw up mostly just a yellowy liquid. She became extremely depressed (normally a very high energy happy girl) and wouldn't have any interest in anything. She was rushed to the Emergency vet that night and was given fluids as she was dehydrated. She had dropped 2 pounds from all of this. They gave her an anti-nausea shot as well as an antibiotic shot and since she is so attached to me and timid with strangers, they advised she would be more comfortable at home. We got home and she slept the entire night, with no episodes of puke or poop. She spent the next day at the Vet to be monitored and when i picked her up at 4, she was back to her normal self, happy and spunky. They offered her little bits of water and little bits of prescription wet dog food and she kept everything down.
That was Wednesday that she was brought home and was back to normal. Thursday morning they suggested i slowly add her normal dry kibble back into her diet, so i started that Thursday morning. Thursday night, she was throwing up again. Also, she was always watched and kept on leash when going outside so I am certain she didn't get into anything she shouldn't have between this time frame. The vet thought this may be related to the dog food, especially since on the Sunday prior, I just bought a brand new bag for my pups. I pulled her off the dry kibble for good and just offered her the wet food the Vet gave me. On Friday also, i started her on an antibiotic pill for 10 days. She made it through the entire weekend with no issues whatsoever. Had an appetite, was spunky and happy and full of energy, I was pretty sure we dealt with a bad case of dog food. Then came Monday morning, around 3:45AM she woke me up throwing up. She threw up her dinner from the previous night, then just yellow liquidy water. I had to go to work, so when i left she was kenneled and left with just water. My boyfriend got home at 2:30 yesterday and she was throwing up constantly, yellow liquid and mostly dry heaving. He brought her to the vet and they ran more bloodwork and everything was normal. They also checked her Pancreas, which was normal. Besides throwing up, she has kept her normal attitude and personality. She was still at the same weight from when she originally went in, so hadn't lost anything more, but hadn't gained either. Another thing the Vet noticed was her Heart rate is pretty slow, around 60 beats per minute. We are at a loss as to what is going on. We left the vet last night and she didn't have any puking episodes last night, but did wake up at 2AM and puked once, then went back to sleep.
Things we have ruled out:
Poison - bloodwork showed everything was normal with her liver
Blockage - Vet said if there was a blockage her bloodwork would have showed some abnormalities
Dog Food - since she is still getting sick with not eating out of that bag, I am thinking this wasn't the cause.
Pancreatis - bloodwork showed this was normal
My vet is doing some more research on possible causes and is going to call me today to discuss some options. Does anyone else have any similar experiences or suggestions?
I plan to stop by the grocery store today after work and pick up rice and ground beef and cook her up some meals this way. She NEEDS to keep something down as she cannot afford to lose anything more, she is skin and bones right now.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I am so sorry. It is so hard when they can't tell you what is wrong........that being said, did they check her for ALL kinds of worms? We had a Dane puppy, at one time, that displayed the same symptoms. Since he was so young, they didn't check for "tapeworm" which is exactly what he had. He probably got his through his mother. We only discovered it when he passed a piece of it. |
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Location: WI | NJJ - 2015-09-29 10:37 AM
I am so sorry. It is so hard when they can't tell you what is wrong........that being said, did they check her for ALL kinds of worms? We had a Dane puppy, at one time, that displayed the same symptoms. Since he was so young, they didn't check for "tapeworm" which is exactly what he had. He probably got his through his mother. We only discovered it when he passed a piece of it. Â
They haven't, but i should have mentioned that yesterday the vet did ask when she was last wormed and I couldn't recall, so she ended up giving her some wormer as well. I will mention this to the Vet today though and may see if this is something we can check. Thank-you! |
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Location: Florida.. | Does she smell?
Parvo they throw up bile and yellow frothy looking stuff..
Id do a xray to check for anything in her bowel.
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Location: WI | Bibliafarm - 2015-09-29 10:50 AM
 Does she smell?
 Parvo they throw up bile and yellow frothy looking stuff..
Id do a xray to check for anything in her bowel.
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She doesn't smell, no. I am going to have an xray done on her next. |
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Location: Florida.. | Oh good.. ILl pray she is feeling better soon.. Its hard to see our babies sick.! |
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Location: Washington | How frustrating. Any mention of heartworms? |
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Location: WI | fatchance - 2015-09-29 11:09 AM
How frustrating. Any mention of heartworms?
No mention of Heartworms, when i look up symptoms for this it states:
mild cough, loss of appetite, reluctant to exercise, fatigue after activity
She doesn't have any of these symptoms. But i do have this on my list just to ask the Vet about. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Have you wormed your horses lately? If you have and used zimectrin or the same active ingredient that could be it. Ivermectrin can be lethal to certain breeds of dogs and aussies are one of those. |
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Location: North Dakota | XRAY her ASAP, if she is blocked or has something going on she is going to be sicker more every day-weird they didn't xray the second visit. It's amazing what will be in a dogs belly, and intestines. Hope it's just an unusual item and not a tumor.  |
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Location: North Dakota | ThreeCorners - 2015-09-29 11:26 AM Have you wormed your horses lately? If you have and used zimectrin or the same active ingredient that could be it. Ivermectrin can be lethal to certain breeds of dogs and aussies are one of those.
Yes, but bloodwork would show that-I can't remember but it does affect the kidney or Liver quite quickly. |
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Location: Florida.. | LMS - 2015-09-29 12:27 PM XRAY her ASAP, if she is blocked or has something going on she is going to be sicker more every day-weird they didn't xray the second visit. It's amazing what will be in a dogs belly, and intestines. Hope it's just an unusual item and not a tumor.
I agree.. |
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Location: Arkansas | Make sure they ran electrolytes with the bloodwork. It could be lots of things. Is she on something for vomiting? |
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Location: WI | gypsy1997 - 2015-09-29 11:43 AM
Make sure they ran electrolytes with the bloodwork. It could be lots of things. Is she on something for vomiting? Â
She was initially, but for the last two days no she isn't on anything to help with vomiting.
When you say run electrolytes with the bloodwork, is that a separate test or would that also show in her results? |
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Location: Florida.. | it should show in bloodwork. |
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Location: WI | LMS - 2015-09-29 11:28 AM
ThreeCorners - 2015-09-29 11:26 AM Â Have you wormed your horses lately? If you have and used zimectrin or the same active ingredient that could be it. Ivermectrin can be lethal to certain breeds of dogs and aussies are one of those.
Yes, but bloodwork would show that-I can't remember but it does affect the kidney or Liver quite quickly.Â
Horses have not been wormed recently to where she could have gotten anything from that. |
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Location: WI | LMS - 2015-09-29 11:27 AM
XRAY her ASAP, if she is blocked or has something going on she is going to be sicker more every day-weird they didn't xray the second visit. It's amazing what will be in a dogs belly, and intestines. Hope it's just an unusual item and not a tumor. Â
I am going to suggest x-rays be done on her today. I think the reason they didn't consider x-raying originally was because her blood work did not add up to her having some sort of blockage. But it has been on my mind now recently that maybe she has something in there that shouldn't be.
She is a big time licker, a constant licker actually. She licks my other dogs' faces, eyes, mouth, ears, etc to "clean them". It is almost an obsession for her. Could maybe be something she is licking off of their faces. |
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Location: Usually on my horse | Diabetic Ketoasidosis, Addison's disease. Most vets don't think of either. Have them check for both of these asap as both can be fatal if not treated in a timely manner. I lost one to Ketoasidosis without even knowing he was diabetic until he got deathly sick. I also have one with Addison's disease, initial symptoms, lethargy, no eating, vomiting, and diarreha, weight loss.
Good luck....hope your pup gets better. |
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Location: WI | haulin4cash - 2015-09-29 12:13 PM
Diabetic Ketoasidosis, Addison's disease.  Most vets don't think of either. Have them check for both of these asap as both can be fatal if not treated in a timely manner. I lost one to Ketoasidosis without even knowing he was diabetic until he got deathly sick. I also have one with Addison's disease, initial symptoms, lethargy, no eating, vomiting, and diarreha, weight loss.
Good luck....hope your pup gets better.
My Vet actually did mention Addison's disease yesterday, and she was going to be doing more research on it today to see if this is something we want to test for next. She has only seen one case of this before she said.
What sort of treatments will i be looking at if this is the case? |
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