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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-21 5:58 PM
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So I have a wicked cutting horse mare turned barrel horse . She has been running for about a year now . I was riding her in a Ed wright medium shank with a twisted dogbone mouthpeice . I also used to run her in a snaffle (got too heavy on forehand) and little s hack (got too stiff) I personally thought her Ed wright was too much for her , gave her too much rate etc . Hence the problem of us knocking barrels in the past few months. (She is a hard rating horse and I don't want any bit that encourages her to rate even more haha)

So I'm looking for a bit with flex and lift for the shoulders but is really light . I have no clue if I should go for something with more gag or less gag . I was looking at anything from carol goostree bits to Sharon C , or sherry cervi bits , . So need some suggestions :).

Thank you !

I'm at total loss and I have some barrel races starting up next month ~


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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-21 6:30 PM
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Forgot to add she gets always ridden in a snaffle when doing arena work
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-10-21 7:19 PM
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Is she bendy or stiff?
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sport565
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-10-21 7:57 PM
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I have a simplicity bit that I love. There is a site where u can rent bits. You might try that first.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-10-21 8:07 PM
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Why not try the ed wright short shank. It sounds like your only problem is too much rate. The shorter shank will help with this
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-10-21 8:44 PM
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I have two suggestions. Ed wright short shank. Make sure that you are not leaning in your turns. That means not leaning with the horse and not leaning forward. Make sure you have your weight is on your outside stirrup and push back on your saddle horn. It is amazing what a difference that will make.
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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-21 8:59 PM
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She is usually more stiff
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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-21 9:01 PM
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im just not sure if I should get something with the mouthpeice that doesn't move or not ?
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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-21 9:01 PM
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I'm gonna try that as well :) thank you .
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-10-21 9:05 PM
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If she has a lot of rate going into the barrels, just leave her alone. The bit won't matter if you don't get in her face and just drive her up to the barrel with your legs and your body. There is no need to lift on a horse like that, it costs you a ton of time at the barrels. Think drive and leave her alone. If she's dropping in too early it is because she is use to you trying to hold her off. That is where her being on her honor come in. We talk in detail about this at the clinics. It is a issue that is easy to fix when you have the right tools in your toolbox.



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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-10-21 9:54 PM
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 I'm really liking the Neil Merrill gag on my horse that's ratey, but needs a little lift and shape. I have the curb pretty loose, and I can help him without him over flexing at the poll or losing forward motion. 
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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-22 12:09 AM
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I know some of it is probably rider error and I am trying to fix that as she is a hard horse to ride ;) but I wanted to switch her into something lighter so any contact with the bit won't be as drastic
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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-10-22 12:42 AM
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I have a mare that runs similar, I found a short/medium shank lifter with a smooth mouth snaffle works the best for her, You can get it made with any mouth piece at L&Wbits.com



If you go to the lift bits it's #182
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redmansmyman11
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-10-22 1:01 AM
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sport565 - 2015-10-21 6:57 PM

I have a simplicity bit that I love. There is a site where u can rent bits. You might try that first.

what site is this!
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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-10-22 1:14 AM
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You will love this bit. My other suggestion though would be exercising her in something else and running in an o-ring.

http://www.equibrand.com/Goostree-Simplicity-Bit-p281/
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tin can
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2015-10-22 5:27 AM
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Call dutton bits i have a little cowbred horse i was having trouble bitting up they listened and told me what to buy and it was perfect



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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-10-22 8:09 AM
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 You might want to switch to a smooth mouth too, instead of twisted.   
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2015-10-22 8:23 AM
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Besides thinking of a bit change, I would focus on putting her on her honor around the barrel in slow work...nice soft forward cadence around the barrel, no sticky feet, or cutting off turn...just forward and soft, relaxed...your mare is probably trying really hard for you, and wants to please..
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-10-22 8:29 AM
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Out of a snaffle I usually move them into a little short shank lifter bit. I have a lot of lw bits and use those. I like a 5 bit as a step up from an o-ring too. An o-ring to a Sherry cervi or an Ed wright is a big step up. I would look for something with about a 5" shank in what ever mouthpiece she prefers. Little to maybe even no gag, since she's an ex cutter. A simplicity isn't going to give you enough control if the o-ring wasn't enough. I like those little bits but haven't found a horse that it really worked properly on. 
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DPMO
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2015-10-22 10:03 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003SVSGN6?tag=ytk00408-20 wo... this bit work or would this one be better

(short shank with a locked mouthpeice )

http://www.thetackstop.com/3piece.htm
 
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