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| I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. He's a very nice dressage horse. Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around.
She came home from her lesson the other day, and as she pulled into the pasture, felt a little jostle, but thought nothing about it. When she got out and went to the back, the door was open and there was no horse in the trailer, he was out in the pasture...after he had apparently busted out of the back gate. She hauls him in an open 3 horse gooseneck because he has a history of trailer issues, so no slant protection or butt bars. He apparently had sat back, and blasted through the back door. It was a one piece door, he bowed out the hinges, and the side latch had just pulled away from the latch.
Thoughts, experiences? Many thoughts come to mind, put the slant dividers back in, put extra reinforcement on the back, buy a better trailer.....
I'm thinking a guy this big and strong, may need more than a run of the mill trailer.
All advise and opinions welcome.
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| My first thought, the trailer door wasn't correctly latched. We had cattle do this a couple times, and yep, the door wasn't properly latched.
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| chicks2 - 2015-10-26 9:59 PM I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. He's a very nice dressage horse. Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around.
She came home from her lesson the other day, and as she pulled into the pasture, felt a little jostle, but thought nothing about it. When she got out and went to the back, the door was open and there was no horse in the trailer, he was out in the pasture...after he had apparently busted out of the back gate. She hauls him in an open 3 horse gooseneck because he has a history of trailer issues, so no slant protection or butt bars. He apparently had sat back, and blasted through the back door. It was a one piece door, he bowed out the hinges, and the side latch had just pulled away from the latch.
Thoughts, experiences? Many thoughts come to mind, put the slant dividers back in, put extra reinforcement on the back, buy a better trailer.....
I'm thinking a guy this big and strong, may need more than a run of the mill trailer.
All advise and opinions welcome.
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Location: Oklahoma | I have a hard time seeing a horse busting out of a trailer if it wasn't latched properly, but I can understand her taking the slants out/letting him have the entire trailer.
I have a 6' wide 2 horse slant BP and I cannot haul both of my horses (15.1 & 15.2 and pretty long) at the same time because the front slant is just too small... it gives them sores where they rub against the trailer. I have to secure the slant against the wall and let one have the entire trailer (unless I'm hauling a smaller horse that fits in the front and the bigger horse can have the back slant).
If the trailer was really latched properly and he bust out then I'd say she needs a wider trailer that could hold him in a slant. I have an 8' wide with 18" mangers and both horses fit in those slants just fine. | |
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Location: Central Texas | chicks2 - 2015-10-26 9:59 PM I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. He's a very nice dressage horse. Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around.
I disagree with this statement. I'm having a hard time getting past it to even answer your question. I think the situation you described was just an accident and could have happened no matter what discipline you ride or what you drive or pull. As the saying goes.....sh*t happens.
She came home from her lesson the other day, and as she pulled into the pasture, felt a little jostle, but thought nothing about it. When she got out and went to the back, the door was open and there was no horse in the trailer, he was out in the pasture...after he had apparently busted out of the back gate. She hauls him in an open 3 horse gooseneck because he has a history of trailer issues, so no slant protection or butt bars. He apparently had sat back, and blasted through the back door. It was a one piece door, he bowed out the hinges, and the side latch had just pulled away from the latch.
Thoughts, experiences? Many thoughts come to mind, put the slant dividers back in, put extra reinforcement on the back, buy a better trailer.....
I'm thinking a guy this big and strong, may need more than a run of the mill trailer.
All advise and opinions welcome.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | GraciousLegacy - 2015-10-27 10:24 AM chicks2 - 2015-10-26 9:59 PM I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. He's a very nice dressage horse. Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around.
I disagree with this statement. I'm having a hard time getting past it to even answer your question. I think the situation you described was just an accident and could have happened no matter what discipline you ride or what you drive or pull. As the saying goes.....sh*t happens.
^^^^^ THIS ..... it always amazes me when non-relevant information, which is meant to enflame, is added to a post....and then the words...."don't take offense".....
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| chicks2 - 2015-10-26 9:59 PM
I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. Â He's a very nice dressage horse. Â Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. Â We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. Â They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around. Â
She came home from her lesson the other day, and as she pulled into the pasture, felt a little jostle, but thought nothing about it. Â When she got out and went to the back, the door was open and there was no horse in the trailer, he was out in the pasture...after he had apparently busted out of the back gate. Â She hauls him in an open 3 horse gooseneck because he has a history of trailer issues, so no slant protection or butt bars. Â He apparently had sat back, and blasted through the back door. Â It was a one piece door, he bowed out the hinges, and the side latch had just pulled away from the latch.
Thoughts, experiences? Â Many thoughts come to mind, put the slant dividers back in, put extra reinforcement on the back, buy a better trailer.....
I'm thinking a guy this big and strong, may need more than a run of the mill trailer.
All advise and opinions welcome.
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I dont think the OP meant that in a negative way, but meant that the horse being able to open the door and fall out could be related to the trailer being older and therefore not having the newest safety measures, and with such a big horse with past issues trailering, and somewhat expensive if hes "very nice"... maybe the friend needs a taller and more secure trailer. Although i agree with the its not the rig you pull up in its the horse... Just think the OP was making an observation that some english riders seem to have the funds but not spend it on rigs the way the western world tends too. But had that happened on the road could have been a huge ordeal with horse possibly dying and being hit by a car injuring the drivers etc.. not something youd ever want to happen again | |
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Location: Texas | Lol.. we have an F450, and all it does is pull. My don't drive it around town unless my mom's car is in the shop or we need the bed for something we are picking up.
I've found that english disciplined people have different set ups but they aren't old.. just smaller. More of the, nice 150 and the 2 horse bumper pull rigs. Or they have the trainer haul their horse to the show. Polo players have big stock trailers because they haul a string of polo ponies to the event. Otherwise, it's more like our set up. Not as many LQ trailers because a lot of them get hotels for their shows. And the big time people have huge rigs that are specially made for their much larger horses.. really fancy looking trailers. | |
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| I didn't realize most western riders could afford the 4500/Bloomer combo. I'm way farther below the equestrian poverty line than I originally thought! Lol wut. Â | |
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| alp341 - 2015-10-27 11:35 AM
chicks2 - 2015-10-26 9:59 PM
I have a friend with a big TB, about 17 hands. Â He's a very nice dressage horse. Â Don't take offence here, but I find folks that ride English, are a bit different than their western counterparts. Â We buy the 4500, pull the Bloomer, and still drive the 4500 as our around town vehicle. Â They tend to have the nice 'city car' and an older truck and trailer to get around. Â
She came home from her lesson the other day, and as she pulled into the pasture, felt a little jostle, but thought nothing about it. Â When she got out and went to the back, the door was open and there was no horse in the trailer, he was out in the pasture...after he had apparently busted out of the back gate. Â She hauls him in an open 3 horse gooseneck because he has a history of trailer issues, so no slant protection or butt bars. Â He apparently had sat back, and blasted through the back door. Â It was a one piece door, he bowed out the hinges, and the side latch had just pulled away from the latch.
Thoughts, experiences? Â Many thoughts come to mind, put the slant dividers back in, put extra reinforcement on the back, buy a better trailer.....
I'm thinking a guy this big and strong, may need more than a run of the mill trailer.
All advise and opinions welcome.
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I dont think the OP meant that in a negative way, but meant that the horse being able to open the door and fall out could be related to the trailer being older and therefore not having the newest safety measures, and with such a big horse with past issues trailering, and somewhat expensive if hes "very nice"... maybe the friend needs a taller and more secure trailer. Although i agree with the its not the rig you pull up in its the horse... Just think the OP was making an observation that some english riders seem to have the funds but not spend it on rigs the way the western world tends too. But had that happened on the road could have been a huge ordeal with horse possibly dying and being hit by a car injuring the drivers etc.. not something youd ever want to happen again
 I agree that their IS a difference in hauling preferences among the disciplines, but it has nothing to do with what happened to the OP's friend. That could happen to anyone, no matter the style of riding, if the conditions permitted. | |
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Location: That part of Texas | Before she looks into buying a new trailer, she should probably take the old one to a reputable trailer repair shop/dealership to have the hinges and latches looked at. The only way I could see a horse -- unless it's a Clydesdale weighing over 2,000 pounds -- being able to do that much damage (and she not feel like the trailer is being shook apart) is that the latches/hinges were severely rusted or already damaged. You don't need an expensive, fancy trailer to haul even the biggest TB or bigger QH. In our area, people haul their 2500-2800 bulls in older rigs without them being able to bust out trailer doors when they lean on them going down the road or even fighting and pushing one another around in a trailer. If you have a bad, rusted-out frame or set of hinges/latches, anything can bust a trailer door open. | |
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Location: Midwest | Red Raider - 2015-10-27 12:18 PM Before she looks into buying a new trailer, she should probably take the old one to a reputable trailer repair shop/dealership to have the hinges and latches looked at. The only way I could see a horse -- unless it's a Clydesdale weighing over 2,000 pounds -- being able to do that much damage (and she not feel like the trailer is being shook apart) is that the latches/hinges were severely rusted or already damaged. You don't need an expensive, fancy trailer to haul even the biggest TB or bigger QH. In our area, people haul their 2500-2800 bulls in older rigs without them being able to bust out trailer doors when they lean on them going down the road or even fighting and pushing one another around in a trailer. If you have a bad, rusted-out frame or set of hinges/latches, anything can bust a trailer door open.
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Just Plain Lucky - 2015-10-27 10:45 AM
I didn't realize most western riders could afford the 4500/Bloomer combo. I'm way farther below the equestrian poverty line than I originally thought! Lol wut. Â
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Location: Willows, CA | There is a difference in how different disciplines haul. My daughters had a 4Star dealership. They took an Outlaw LQ with a big mid tack room and a big Warmblood sized straight load in back to The Pebble Beach Dressage show. You would have thought that they had brought a space ship. Most people were amazed by that trailer. Most of the riders did not haul their own horses to the show, their trainers hauled the horses for them. Those that did haul had very simple trailers behind a Suburban or other SUV. There was only one LQ in the parking lot. Most western discipline horse people haul their own horses, and would love to own a nice LQ. I remember one woman at that show saying that she could easily own her own trailer for what she paid her trainer to haul her horse, but had never really thought about it. | |
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This whole thread is a good representation of our society.
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