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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | He was a furturity and rodeo horse. He got hurt. Healed and was ran a couple times and then turned out for 5yrs due to owner quit riding before I bought him. I got him in late May early June and he gets long trotted every day or at least every other day. I've posted about him before. Since then he's seen 3 vets. Nothing at all wrong with him. The performance vet injected a few things but he said nothing was major. He told me to put him back on the Red Cell and alfalfa which I did. He gave me Ventipolmin(I think is how you spell it) syrip to give him before a run. Still won't run. I'm running him dry now cause I don't know what else to do/give. I've tried sprinting. I've tried not warming up much... We lope 3 circles each direction and walk a lot. He is just very unmotivated. Any more suggestions? I don't know what else to do.
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| Maybe he just isn't interested in it anymore. Sometimes just doing something different is what they want. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | burning ember - 2015-10-28 1:17 PM
Maybe he just isn't interested in it anymore. Sometimes just doing something different is what they want.
I thought about that. But he still acts excited and wants to go just doesn't run. He would make a great kids horse so I'm gonna keep him either way but I would like for him to make me a rodeo horse. |
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| Have you entered him in any rodeos? performances? I have one that WILL NOT fire at jackpots UNLESS I enter him in a rodeo every four or five. He comes home from rodeoing and really really runs...top of the 1d times....otherwise we are running 3d times at best against the same girls. I have had a lot of unmotivated horses wake up and start firing and enjoying their job after hitting a few rodeos. Maybe he's just bored :) Try it...let us know how it goes~ |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Could he be a bleeder.....M |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | MOTIVATED - 2015-10-28 1:27 PM Have you entered him in any rodeos? performances? I have one that WILL NOT fire at jackpots UNLESS I enter him in a rodeo every four or five. He comes home from rodeoing and really really runs...top of the 1d times....otherwise we are running 3d times at best against the same girls. I have had a lot of unmotivated horses wake up and start firing and enjoying their job after hitting a few rodeos. Maybe he's just bored :) Try it...let us know how it goes~
^^^^THIS....IF he vets clean.....try some cattle events..... |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | mruggles - 2015-10-28 1:34 PM
Could he be a bleeder.....M
Nope the performance vet scooped him to make sure he wasn't.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I wanted to try B12 shots but the vet didn't think much of that. Said it wasn't as safe as other methods. I don't want to do anything unsafe. |
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Location: Florida.. | Maybe there was another reason horse was turned out for 5 years.. and never rodeod on again.. :)what type injury? |
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| NJJ - 2015-10-28 1:38 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-10-28 1:27 PM Have you entered him in any rodeos? performances? I have one that WILL NOT fire at jackpots UNLESS I enter him in a rodeo every four or five. He comes home from rodeoing and really really runs...top of the 1d times....otherwise we are running 3d times at best against the same girls. I have had a lot of unmotivated horses wake up and start firing and enjoying their job after hitting a few rodeos. Maybe he's just bored :) Try it...let us know how it goes~ ^^^^THIS....IF he vets clean.....try some cattle events.....
yep, give him something to chase for a while....that helps too! |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Bibliafarm - 2015-10-28 1:43 PM
Maybe there was another reason horse was turned out for 5 years.. and never rodeod on again.. :)what type injury?
He was tied to the previous owners trailer and the peoples beside her dog got loose and ran under the trailer and spooked him. Somehow he ended up under the trailer. He was cut up really bad but one leg was worse than everything else. He cut his knee very very bad and cut either a tendon or ligament. Can't remember which she told me but the vet said that it wasn't a main one and it would heal after quite a lot of money and a lot of stall rest. I belive she told me she left him in a stall for 6 months. He's been xrayed and ultrasounds and the vets say it's healed. |
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Location: So. California | What are you feeding him other than Red Cell? Did his bloodwork come back normal for vitamins and minerals? |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Anniemae - 2015-10-28 2:11 PM
What are you feeding him other than Red Cell? Did his bloodwork come back normal for vitamins and minerals?
He gets TizWhiz Structure. It's all I can get. He get aloe Vera juice for ulcer preventative. All blood work was normal except his red blood cell count was a little high. |
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Location: So. California | TessBelle - 2015-10-28 12:15 PM Anniemae - 2015-10-28 2:11 PM What are you feeding him other than Red Cell? Did his bloodwork come back normal for vitamins and minerals? He gets TizWhiz Structure. It's all I can get. He get aloe Vera juice for ulcer preventative. All blood work was normal except his red blood cell count was a little high.
His red cell count is high and you have him on Red Cell?
I'm not familiar with that particular feed, is there something in it that you like? It looks like a bunch of filler and not much as far as nutrition goes, but I could be missing something.
Have you tried a vitamin supplement, veterinarian grade? Or adding some flax seed to his diet. Just some thoughts...
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Location: Florida.. | why is he on red cell then if his blood count is high and personally Id switch to a better feed. the ingredients dont look to good.. INGREDIENTS
Wheat Middlings, Soybean Hulls, Ground Corn, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Distillers Grains Dried, Mechanically Extruded Soybean Meal, Molasses, Beet Pulp Dried, Yeast Culture, Soybean Oil, Lignin Sulfonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Oxide, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite, d-Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate in Gelatin, Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Proprionic Acid (a preservative), and Cobalt Carbonate
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Horses should be fed as individuals to meet their needs of body weight and activity level. Feed up to 1lb of Tizwhiz Structure per 100lbs of the horse’s weight per day, adjusting to the quality of hay or pasture available. Body tape your horse and weigh the feed to ensure proper amounts.
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Location: NE Texas | How many runs have you made on him at this point?
First thing I would do is put him on a diet consisting of mostly alfalfa with a little whole oats added in for a medium to mix supplements. But lots of good quality alfalfa or Omnis cubes if you can get them. |
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Location: North Dakota | Feed the fire back into him...definitely alfalfa and better (more) grain AND look closely at his shoe/trim job, especially the fronts can cause all kinds of trouble. |
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| Here's an idea .... maybe he doesn't want to run and doesn't have the desire? Not every horse is going to do what you want them to do (performance wise) even if they're bred out the wa-zoo to do it.
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Location: Kansas | Have you gone to anyone that is a good trainer/rider for in person help or had a good rider ride him?
Their knowledge should help in determining rider issue, not running correctly or a physical issue. They might be able to help solve the problem
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