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Location: Where I am happiest | Let me start by saying this isnt about any one person in particular, as many could be included. However, I am wondering, how important is it to you that those who are looked up to, or those who are the "elite" are actually good people in their so called "private" lives or the means they used to get to where they are? Although, when one is one of the "elites" in any givin field, then they are on everybodys radar and people, media, ect. will talk simply because they are who they are. I'm talking political leaders, movie star's and the sports elites of any givin sport including our own. How is it, that because someone is so n so, they seem to get a free pass on their actions by so many? Is what type of person someone actually is not important anymore? Or is it all ok simply because of who they are or what they have accomplished? We all see it over and over again and it really makes me wonder. |
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Location: Florida.. | Truthfully wrong is wrong no matter who you are.. I dont follow any person and I certainly dont give free passes on my judgement of them as a good person But I also dont feel private lives are anyones business.. if it affects me or my family or our country yes I do think its our business.. but what goes on behind closed doors.. not so much.. in relationships etc.. Humans will make mistakes in that area.. . but who are we to judge.. we can only hope that the ones that others children etc look up to live a good clean life.. but its their life and they will deal with the consequences .....we just have to not spread rumors , talk stories , and spread gossip.. it may be true yes... but ... its not our monkeys......doesnt mean we agree with it... but....not our business in my opinion.... thats all we can do and live our own life pure as can be. |
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Location: East Texas | It matters to me. As far as most of the country......I don't think so. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | CrossDRanch - 2015-11-04 9:19 AM It matters to me. As far as most of the country......I don't think so.
Just because we dont get in their business doesnt mean we agree with what they are doing..its wrong ...... just to be clear.. wed have a busy life though if we had to worry about what others are doing in their home life.. right? |
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Miracle in the Making
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| they have opened themselves up to media . it looks bad to our youth when public figures get a free pass but normal people would be in jail or rehad
if i would walk out of the house with my boobs expose hello jail but actress do it all the time
i personally think that the double strandard needs to go away but.....
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Location: London Ontario | I care about this more then I should. Especially in the barrel racing world. If I am paying to have one of these big wigs ride/train/run my horse they better have good morals and horsemenship as all eyes are on them. YES mistake DO happen. I get that, but when you have millions of kids looking up to you as a role model, I expect you to have high values when in the public eye. People talk, so they better be talking good things.... |
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| It absolutely matters to me, more so than any success they have achieved. It is a sad commentary on our society that they are given a free pass. I read the statement a lot on here that it is not our place to judge, that is true to an extent. The goings on in their daily lives, mistakes made, do not define the whole person and are none of our business but when repeated immoral, illicit and sometimes illegal behavior is demonstrated by them, it is time to take them off the pedestal. As a parent, I think it was my job to "judge" who my children looked up to and how these idols are influencing them. Is it someone who achieved their success thru hard work and perseverance, is it some one who stepped on others to get to the top, what are they teaching our youth?
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Location: SW MO | It matters a lot to me I don’t think one Olympic person ( I won’t name names) should have ever been let back into the Olympics after his first drug ot-oh let along after several.
When you become popular, Sports stars, Movie Stars what ever you are making a living off your public image it should be one people can look up to. |
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I just read the headlines
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-11-04 8:45 AM
It absolutely matters to me, more so than any success they have achieved. It is a sad commentary on our society that they are given a free pass. I read the statement a lot on here that it is not our place to judge, that is true to an extent. The goings on in their daily lives, mistakes made, do not define the whole person and are none of our business but when repeated immoral, illicit and sometimes illegal behavior is demonstrated by them, it is time to take them off the pedestal. As a parent, I think it was my job to "judge" who my children looked up to and how these idols are influencing them. Is it someone who achieved their success thru hard work and perseverance, is it some one who stepped on others to get to the top, what are they teaching our youth?
I am with rodeomom on this one. I have never had idols, though. I am blessed enough to have amazing people in my family, really strong women and men who the value and strength of women, and who were also very strong. |
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Location: East Texas | Bibliafarm - 2015-11-04 8:24 AM
CrossDRanch - 2015-11-04 9:19 AM It matters to me. As far as most of the country......I don't think so.
Just because we dont get in their business doesnt mean we agree with what they are doing..its wrong ...... just to be clear.. wed have a busy life though if we had to worry about what others are doing in their home life.. right?
No doubt..... I don't worry about them, but I will not give them my business and I definitely do not want my daughter looking up to any of these idiots. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | so lamar odoms bad behavior saved his marriage and never discouraged any bball ticket buyers.
blake shelton is sure hasnt taken any business hits on his life choices.
the whole bruce/caitlyn jenner woman of the year thing just makes me what to puke.
yes moral indiscretion bothers me and alas im ashamed that my moral fiber isnt strong enough to make me not watch the voice.
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | It matters to me, but I'm not always sure how to combat it. I don't go see movies with stars that are, well, running around, doing drugs, etc.
But sometimes, I don't even know who they are talking about. As far as football and baseball, I don't spend money on attending games but I love a few teams, so do I not watch on TV? I guess that would be the best.
I used to write sponsors for TV stars. Did it for years, but almsot NEVER got a response. Sometimes I don't even know what they say is true. It is overwhelming.
In Barrel Racing, It's tough. I don't look up to a lot of people that ride at the top. But I don't buy from them, I don't purchase products they endorce and that's about all I can really do.
I think if I had a ton of money, my kid would have been mounted on the best horses around, but she would still ride, saddle, train and warm up the horse herself AND sit in the holding pen just like every other person that is there. I don't really like to see that at the top levels, but I'm not there, so maybe I would see it different.
I'm kind of shocked at some of the arrogance expressed by top riders, yet just like the rest of life, there are some amazing and wonderful riders at the top too!!!
So basically, I'm not always sure how to go about challenging the situation but I agree with you.
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Location: Deep South | It absolutely matters to me. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | luluwhit - 2015-11-04 10:07 AM so lamar odoms bad behavior saved his marriage and never discouraged any bball ticket buyers.
blake shelton is sure hasnt taken any business hits on his life choices.
the whole bruce/caitlyn jenner woman of the year thing just makes me what to puke.
yes moral indiscretion bothers me and alas im ashamed that my moral fiber isnt strong enough to make me not watch the voice.
I find it interesting that Blake Shelton seems to be much happier and he looks sober this season on The Voice. Makes you wonder why? You don't know what any person is going through unless you walk in their shoes. |
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 Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Ppeople will say it matters however I have noticed on here that big names do get treated differently when something bad or gossipy comes up. Time & time again I have seen a different attitude, and more sympathy towards big names / competitors than the nobodies. Whether we want to admit it or not, we tend to be more impressed by a title than integrity, and it shows in how we respond on here. For instance, I don't think any of the Rita Crumwell posts got zapped but let a big name barrel racer post come up and it gets zapped at the speed of lightening. And it's not just here. Look at Lamar Odom and his recent fiasco - where's the sympathy for all the other husbands passed out and taken to the ER from a brothel????
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Doesnt matter one bit to me.....they can live their lives however they want...doesnt have any impact on my day to day.....M |
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| The lady I ride with is my example of who I want to be. Not only is she a highly talented and succesful barrel racer, she is a truly good person. To put it this way she has two friends of hers who are "homeless" living with her for the time being. She goes out of her way to be encouraging to the up and comers and those who will probably never run in the 1D. She is classy, kind and truly a good person. The rest of the world may be falling to pieces but the only way to change things is to become the change. She embodys that everyday.   |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The only people that I idolize is my husband and kids, I could care less what others do with their lives. I really dont pay mine what all the stars do, but then there is TV and alot is shoved in our faces about some but o well life gos on... |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | I don't idolize anyone in the barrel racing world. I don't know - I just find them to be arrogant. I do have media figures in other sports that I look up to though. |
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Ms. Elvis
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | Swannranch - 2015-11-04 10:26 AM
It matters to me, but I'm not always sure how to combat it. I don't go see movies with stars that are, well, running around, doing drugs, etc.
But sometimes, I don't even know who they are talking about. As far as football and baseball, I don't spend money on attending games but I love a few teams, so do I not watch on TV? I guess that would be the best.
I used to write sponsors for TV stars. Did it for years, but almsot NEVER got a response. Sometimes I don't even know what they say is true. It is overwhelming.
In Barrel Racing, It's tough. I don't look up to a lot of people that ride at the top. But I don't buy from them, I don't purchase products they endorce and that's about all I can really do.
I think if I had a ton of money, my kid would have been mounted on the best horses around, but she would still ride, saddle, train and warm up the horse herself AND sit in the holding pen just like every other person that is there. I don't really like to see that at the top levels, but I'm not there, so maybe I would see it different.
I'm kind of shocked at some of the arrogance expressed by top riders, yet just like the rest of life, there are some amazing and wonderful riders at the top too!!!
So basically, I'm not always sure how to go about challenging the situation but I agree with you.
Agree with you on the arrogance and I'm seeing more and more of it. |
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