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| Looking at changing to a mohair cinch... do you size these the same way as you would a neoprene or soft touch cinch ? I have heard that they stretch. Should I go a size smaller ? |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | They do stretch, I have been switching over to them too, but I tryed a size smaller and they were just to short so I went with the same size I was useing in my other cinches, I use 36" on two of my horses and the 34's were just to short. I know that they do stretch but the 34's were just not going to work. |
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| Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
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Location: Central Texas | I changed to Mohair this summer, I really like them, I purchased the same size that I had been using. That being said, they do indeed stretch. |
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Location: Kentucky | 5 Star makes a nice mohair cinch also. Contact RockyRoad on here, she is a dealer. |
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Location: Central Texas | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-11-07 4:58 PM
Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
I found out quite the opposite. I found out that I had to cinch just as tight. When I switched to Mohair from Nylon. I saddled, cinched up, got on and waited for my run, I never had to re-tighten my nylon so unfortunately, I assumed the same for Mohair. Wrong....my saddled rolled to the outside coming out of 3rd heading to home and I ended up riding on the side of my horse all the way. Not fun at all! |
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-11-07 4:58 PM
Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
On his website it says he uses a mohair blend - any idea what it's blended with? |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Rememebr to switch your tie billet and off billet to a nylon. Nylon won't stretch like leather latigo will. Which means you'll only get stretch from the mohair. I cinch a hair to tight and then it usually works itself out by the time I make a run. |
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| WiscoRacer - 2015-11-09 2:50 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-11-07 4:58 PM
Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
On his website it says he uses a mohair blend - any idea what it's blended with?
40% Wool
40% Mohair
20% Dacron
The DM Cinchas give but don't stretch out of shape and last forever. |
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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
Posts: 9586
Location: Phoenix | Thoughts on mohair versus alpaca?
I'll be switching soon; I've used mohair before and have found you do have to cinch up tighter then with neoprene at least in my experience. With this hot weather in Arizona I really don't feel comfortable using my neoprene anymore. |
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| LabRat - 2015-11-09 6:35 PM
WiscoRacer - 2015-11-09 2:50 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-11-07 4:58 PM
Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
On his website it says he uses a mohair blend - any idea what it's blended with?
40% Wool
40% Mohair
20% Dacron
The DM Cinchas give but don't stretch out of shape and last forever.
Thank you! |
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| WiscoRacer - 2015-11-09 7:20 PM
LabRat - 2015-11-09 6:35 PM
WiscoRacer - 2015-11-09 2:50 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-11-07 4:58 PM
Look at the mohair cinchas at DM TACK with the square top on the cinch rings ... this gives you a direct even pull with your latigo strap ... and the rings/buckles are stainless steel .... Dennis makes the best !!
Order a roper cinch to give you more pressure relief on horses breast bone and ribs and it holds saddle more secure than a straight cinch. Yes, mohair is flexible and gives a horse breathing room vs a nylon/neoprene cinch... and you will find you don't have to snug a mohair up as hard for it to be secure!!
DM cinchas are priced a little higher but they will last a life time and the design and materials are the best ever!!
On his website it says he uses a mohair blend - any idea what it's blended with?
40% Wool
40% Mohair
20% Dacron
The DM Cinchas give but don't stretch out of shape and last forever.
Thank you!
CINCH MEASURING MADE EASY ..
Always buy the cinches with the squared flat top buckle dees ... this
gives you a straight pull and even pressure at the top of the cinch
thru the entire cinch.
I also recommend using a roper cinch on barrel saddles ... they are
so tiny and most are poorly designed for weight distribution they
need all the stability they can get with a wider cinch.
Here is how to make your measurement for different saddles.
Tools needed... a pair of scissors, 4 ft piece of binder twine or
string, tape measure
Saddle your horse as if to ride to compress your pad.
Carefully take your cinch completely off without moving the saddle.
Tie one end of string to the off side and stretch it firmly under
horses belly and thru the near sided Dee of your saddle.
Now cut the string off at the bottom of your near sided Dee.
Go to the off side and cut string off at bottom of the Dee.
Now cut 16 inches off of the string you have left ..
Measure the string you have left ..
If it measures an odd number like 29 or 33 .. add an inch and
order a 30 or a 34.
Here is the cinch I have bought for years and use them on
every type of saddle .. note the square tops on cinch buckle,
stainless steel hardware, and the 31 strands will lay flat on
the breast bone due to the good retainer on these cinches.
Look at this link .. it has the above cinch and a picture of
what both sides of your cinched up horse to saddle should look like .....
pay attention to the pictures ... his logo patch belongs on the off side
of the horse ....>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.dmtack.com/products/11cr-dm-roper-cincha/
While you are looking at these pictures of a properly installed cinch ... keep in mind where your breast collar is attached to your tiny barrel saddle. If there is any chance of horses shoulder movement jerking the horn/swells area of the saddle downward and creating sore withers or rocking the cantle which can throw your legs backward or rider having loose seat//balance problems and horse having a sore groin or kidneys. Attach your breast collar to your saddle D's and even to the girth buckles on a very tall horse ..
I also recommend using leather latigo straps on both sides to
allow a small amount of expansion along with the mohair
to give you horse a little breathing room but not losing any
stability in your saddle ...
As any good ranch hand knows .. saddle first and bridle second or saddle up and lead horse outside or saddle up and go eat breakfast and then take up the slack in your cinch since 30% of horses know how to blow themselves up at first cinching and you end up with a walking or sliding unsecure saddle ... and a sore backed horse ...
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2015-11-09 11:27 PM
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| Most people loved the 2015 ALL AMERICAN FUTURITY but never realized the #6 horse slipped his saddle and bucked his rider off and of course was DQ'd to last ... Keep watchint the finish and watch the saddle come racing across the finish line ... half way thru the entire race you will see the head-on shot of the race and can see the rodeo in the back of the pack with the #6 horse.
Take note racing flat saddles have two girths .. one is the normal elastized saddle girth and the second one is the white safety girth is wrapped and cinched over the top of the saddle ... you can see this when winner is followed and jockey stands up to cue his horse that the race is over ....
ENJOY THE AA FUTURIY
https://youtu.be/Bdyzn69maqU
It is pretty rare to see a breast collar on a racing saddle at a race ... take note how the straps go straight back to the cinch area to hold everything in place on a hard gathering horse coming out of the gates.
Watch for several glimpses of the horse in the saddling paddock with blue nylon strap hanging around his neck ...
and then watch the post parade and be ready to pause the video when you see the #2 horse to get a good look at the racing breast collar ...
I bet the #6 horse's trainer in the AAF wished his horse was wearing one ...
NOT to bore you to death but ... watch the winner come back to the winners circle and how quickly a stable hand removes the safety cinch .. it does not count on the weigh out of the rider and equipment after a race ...
https://youtu.be/I0NnR11-BNA
KEEP WATCHING THE VIDEO ABOVE ... STRAY CAT ..... the stallion being advertised in the video and at the end is the ONLY QH SIRED BY.... STORM CAT TB (after he died ...breeding fee $500,000) ... STRAY CAT .... Lyle Lovett the country singer bought the frozen semen of Storm Cat and Vessels Stallion Station supplied the tremendous daughter of FDD ...
As you can see they raced him until he was 5 and never could get the genes to work...
Stray Cat is the property of Lyle Lovett .. look at the catalog page too ... tremendous qh black typed dams ...
http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=1328
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2015-11-10 12:55 AM
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 Underestimated Underdog
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Location: Minnesota | Great thread. I was thinking of switching to mohair as well. |
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Rad Dork
Posts: 5218
Location: Oklahoma | hammer_time - 2015-11-09 6:52 PM
Thoughts on mohair versus alpaca?
I'll be switching soon; I've used mohair before and have found you do have to cinch up tighter then with neoprene at least in my experience. With this hot weather in Arizona I really don't feel comfortable using my neoprene anymore.
Alpaca is much softer. It's all I use. They do stretch, though. |
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| My husband used to work for Dennis and build tack for him and his stuff really is the best and will last forever!! We still order most of our stuff from him. |
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Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | Since this has been bumped back up.....I went with a 5 Star mohair and am really pleased. Horse pins his ears less when saddling also. Remember to measure from inner ring to inner ring and I went 1" down to account for the stretching. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Yep since this was bumped back up I went back to my Classic Sensorflex fleece cinches, I have a gelding that didnt care for the mohair, so just just went back to my Classic Equine cinches  |
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| I love mohair cinches, but the key is to get a cinch that is actually 100% mohair. A lot of the companies that make "mohair" cinches use mohair that is actually part or mostly synthetic. I have a guy in Stephenville, TX that makes cinches for me. I will PM you his name/number. His cinches are 100% mohair. They last a long time, don't stretch as much as the ones with synthetic, they last a long, long time, and his are priced very reasonable.
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Location: in the ozone | I get my mohair cinches from 5 Star (Rockyroad) and they are 100% mohair - no crappy "other" fibers. What I was told was to order the size I normally use, but when I got it, it would be shorter to start. And after 1 or 2 uses, it would stretch to where it should be. That was very accurate info AND they also can come w/the flat top buckle too. |
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