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| So hypothetical here Let's say you were putting together a small broodmare band. What are some musts you would look for in mares? Not wanting to spend more than $10,000 per mare and keep it at 5 mares or less. Buying mares purely for the resale of their get. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Daughter of Letta Hank Do It and Leaving Memories. Preferably with produce or performance records. Daughters of the big three are generally going to be more than that. A Bully Bullion daughter would be good too. Good luck finding a Shawne Bug daughter for that. You might but they are usually older and only have a couple colts left. |
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| Performance or Produce record, Good Female Line, good conformation, color is a plus but not required, good personality, and clean 5 panel. Just off the top of my head. |
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| oija - 2015-11-13 4:03 PM
Daughter of Letta Hank Do It and Leaving Memories. Preferably with produce or performance records. Daughters of the big three are generally going to be more than that. A Bully Bullion daughter would be good too. Good luck finding a Shawne Bug daughter for that. You might but they are usually older and only have a couple colts left.
Who do you mean by the big three? I'm guessing DTF, FG, and FWF???? What about daughters of Tres Seis, I could see him being a top broodmare sire in the future?
Edited by Rope-N-Run 2015-11-12 7:11 PM
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Rope-N-Run - 2015-11-12 6:05 PM
oija - 2015-11-13 4:03 PM
Daughter of Letta Hank Do It and Leaving Memories. Preferably with produce or performance records. Daughters of the big three are generally going to be more than that. A Bully Bullion daughter would be good too. Good luck finding a Shawne Bug daughter for that. You might but they are usually older and only have a couple colts left.
Who do you mean by the big three? I'm guessing DTF, FG, and FWF???? What about daughters of Tres Seis, I could see him being a top broodmare daughter in the future?
You could probably find a TS for that. Yes, those are the big three.
Eta: a holland ease mare would be good too.
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| What about cow bred mares are their foals selling very well crossed on top barrel horse sires? |
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| I would say no. I would stick with proven running/ barrel bred mares with stellar female family for resale of foals |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Rope-N-Run - 2015-11-12 6:15 PM What about cow bred mares are their foals selling very well crossed on top barrel horse sires?
If you are raising cowhorses sure, but your not and your cowbred mares, even though there have been some of the tuffest barrel horses in the nation have been cowbred horses, those mares foals just wont bring the price. Although, you can buy a nice cow bred mare for alot less money so at the end of the day, she will still make you money if bred right and you can raise some good marketable foals breeding her to the middle tier stallions and the true up and commers that stand $1500 - $2500 So with that said, assum?ing you have $50,000 to work with to assemble this band of 5, I would probably set my sites on 4 and allow a $20k budget to buy a Dash Ta Fame daughter. Or try to find one for $15k and go $5k on one good cow horse mare that comes from a family that has produced barrel horses. Then go for a Tres Sies daughter, then a Firewater Flit or Frenchmans Guy daughter. I have to add, assembling this good good band of mares will be money wasted, and mare power wasted and you will be upside down financially in short order if you breed to cheap studs. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Must have an outstanding female line. Must be young enough to get a few foals out of. If I'm spending ten grand, she is going to be proven already. I wouldn't chance unproven for 10k. Must not have any issues. For 10k, I don't need a hard keeping, cribber. Must have commercial bloodlines, because, sadly, that is what sells. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Also, if you're starting out, don't go with 5 mares. You will get to a point where you have 5 yearlings, 5 weanlings, 5 pregnant broodmares. That is a lot to feed and manage properly barring no major vet bills. Concentrate on one or two outstanding mares instead. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I agree with the above. Many times less is more.
Edited by ThreeCorners 2015-11-12 9:20 PM
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| Buy daughters of known broodmare sires. Make sure the maternal side is full of broodmare sires too. Having an own daughter of so and so simply isn't enough if there are holes in the pedigree. But they also need to have a produce record if they have foals of age on the ground. I would rather have 2 or 3 proven, great conformation, pedigreed mares that I spent $20,000 on each over 6 mediocre mares that look okay on paper just because they are by a well known stud for $10,000 each. |
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Location: Texas | Make sure they have merit... Did they race? did they ROM? did they win? SI? $$ won? was it claimers, or stakes races? What did its half siblings do? what did its dam do? same thing....
With barrel horses- do they have maternal siblings who won a lot? Did they go to the barrel pen? if so, what did they do? any futurity wins, places? open placings? etc...
I have had the best luck as far as getting discounted stud fees on my mares who A- were bred well but more importantly B- had something to brag about.
I would look for daughters of Stoli and Tres Seis too. But again- it's not just that they are daughters of them, they have to have more than that.
All of the mares we are breeding have done something themselves, in the barrel pen, that makes them proven, except for the Stoli daughter I have, but she ran on the track, wasn't super, but has a strong female family. She is going to have to prove herself through her babies. |
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| Own daughter's of....Pie in the Sky, Osceola Warrior, Dash Ta Fame, First Down Dash, a good bred sprinting TB, |
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Location: Texas | i will say, when i look at a potential prospect, i do research the mares and i want to see more than sire lines IMO. |
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Location: **Cactus Country down in South Texas*** | Its kind of like when your selling something, your product better be made of the best and last the longest of time.
So that's where mare power comes into hand, I preferably like the older lines. The older the better, performance records are a must, there health record ( being that there health is great and no issues, & better built mares last longer, and that goes for the stud as well). I believe your foals get everything from the mare, you half to consider they raise the little cuties from day one and until they are weaned. Environment plays a big role as well. There are many things that come into play, you half to have a plan, & money is a big one. Quality is always better then quantity. I prefer smaller operations then bigger ones. I don't like to breed just anything to everything, I like to sit and do the history on my mares, and the future baby daddy's lol. History is another big thing that goes back to seeing what performed well, verses the ones that did great and are still doing great things. You want that magic cross, or that future NFR horse for someone some day, or the once in a lifetime. |
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Location: OH | If I was starting from scratch I would want a
Sun Frost
Dash For Perks
Dash Ta Fame
Lone Drifter
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Location: Oklahoma | Mighty Broke - 2015-11-16 3:18 PM If I was starting from scratch I would want a
Sun Frost
Dash For Perks
Dash Ta Fame
Lone Drifter
The Child Gone Wild is trying to turn my crew into broodmares and I have those bloodlines and more. I do not like raising babies though, so I told her they would be sold as weanlings!
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| Focus on the female. While recognizable sire's and sire lines are important, if you could get some daughters of really nice producing mares you would be better off in my opinion. For example...there is a daughter of Shawne Promise for sale here on BHW. She is by Confederate Leader. The important thing is that her dam has produce over $150,000 in barrel earners and has a son (Feature Attraction) that is starting his stud career with one of the hottest names in the business right now. This filly is young but has the credentials to make a super broodmare, plus she is priced reasonable for what she is. Get a few like this and you will have one heck of a maternal side to your program. |
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| Rope-N-Run - 2015-11-12 6:15 PM
What about cow bred mares are their foals selling very well crossed on top barrel horse sires?
I personally wish there were more run/cow crosses out there. I seem to be finding all run or all cow. |
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