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Location: SE KS | Have a 11yo gelding, had him 7-8yrs, he has never been one to just walk along. He has to jog/jig. It's worse when there is another horse along, bc then it's like a race. He is perfect in every other way!!! But isn't fun to ride anymore because of the constant need to go!!!!
He does NOT have a strenous life, he heads, heels, barrels & poles all of which he knew when we got him. Even when we hauled him (which was maybe 10 times a month) & he was ridden every day he still wanted to go!!! The best day we had with him was I ran him @ a jackpot (barrels & poles) them we took him to another show & I ran him in barrels & poles & my husband roped on him, that day my husband said he worked better than any time we'd had him!! He's like the Energizer Bunny, that I wish the battery would run out on!!!!
He has a stall with a run during the day, turned out at night, have even done 24 hr turnout.
What feed or supplement could he be given to just help him chill?
Appreciate the help, thanks
(Hopefully my thoughts didn't skip anything while I typed, sometimes I can't think & type)!!!!!
Edited by lhighquality 2015-11-16 2:08 PM
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | I have a mare like that. It seems the more you do, the more energy she gets! I tried Wendell Calming Herbs. Worked amazing !!!
http://www.wendalsusa.com/wendals_eqproducts_1.html |
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Location: Oklahoma | went to watch ed wright clinic and several horses was like this he had them do a couple little exercises and it was unbelievable how much they settled down! and super fast. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | lhighquality - 2015-11-16 1:48 PM Have a 10yo gelding, had him 9yrs, he has never been one to just walk along. He has to jog/jig. It's worse when there is another horse along, bc then it's like a race. He is perfect in every other way!!! But isn't fun to ride anymore because of the constant need to go!!!! He does NOT have a strenous life, he heads, heels, barrels & poles all of which he knew when we got him. Even when we hauled him (which was maybe 10 times a month) & he was ridden every day he still wanted to go!!! The best day we had with him was I ran him @ a jackpot (barrels & poles) them we took him to another show & I ran him in barrels & poles & my husband roped on him, that day my husband said he worked better than any time we'd had him!! He's like the Energizer Bunny, that I wish the battery would run out on!!!! He has a stall with a run during the day, turned out at night, have even done 24 hr turnout. What feed or supplement could he be given to just help him chill? Appreciate the help, thanks (Hopefully my thoughts didn't skip anything while I typed, sometimes I can't think & type)!!!!!
Now this is a 10 year old gelding and you have had him for 9 years, he heads heels runs barrels and poles and he knew all this when you got him? So he was a Yearling,, I think I am reading this wrong LOL....
Try some vit. B1... |
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Location: SE KS | Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-16 1:58 PM
lhighquality - 2015-11-16 1:48 PM Have a 10yo gelding, had him 9yrs, he has never been one to just walk along. He has to jog/jig. It's worse when there is another horse along, bc then it's like a race. He is perfect in every other way!!! But isn't fun to ride anymore because of the constant need to go!!!! He does NOT have a strenous life, he heads, heels, barrels & poles all of which he knew when we got him. Even when we hauled him (which was maybe 10 times a month) & he was ridden every day he still wanted to go!!! The best day we had with him was I ran him @ a jackpot (barrels & poles) them we took him to another show & I ran him in barrels & poles & my husband roped on him, that day my husband said he worked better than any time we'd had him!! He's like the Energizer Bunny, that I wish the battery would run out on!!!! He has a stall with a run during the day, turned out at night, have even done 24 hr turnout. What feed or supplement could he be given to just help him chill? Appreciate the help, thanks (Hopefully my thoughts didn't skip anything while I typed, sometimes I can't think & type)!!!!!
Now this is a 10 year old gelding and you have had him for 9 years, he heads heels runs barrels and poles and he knew all this when you got him? So he was a Yearling,, I think I am reading this wrong LOL....Try some vit. B1...
Yeah, sorry, I can't add & subtract correctly!!!!!! He was 3 or 4 when we got him!!!
I think he was pushed too much/hard when younger & that's the reason he's like this, but
I'm to the point now, where I wish once in a while he'd just plain ol walk!!!!! |
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Location: North Dakota | Some horses are just like that.
My senior year of high school, my regular horse got hurt. We bought another one for me to ride while he healed. I rode that horse every single day that summer, usually 4 to 6 miles each, and it took MONTHS before he would walk on a loose rein. He was just a very nervous-type horse. I was a great horse in the aspect that he never took his mind off you. Ever. He was always listening. So he was just trying to be a good boy, but he was just a nervous anxious wreck from it. While he was so darn FAST, I actually ended up selling him b/c he was hard to catch and had a really rough lope. And, in part, my other horse was healed by then.
We tried several calming supplements but nothing ever seemed to help take the edge off.
Have you done a complete lameness eval for you horse?
Checked or treated for ulcers? (if they are the nervous-type)
Saddle fit well?
I would definately lean towards 24/7 turnout, to help him move around more.
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Location: Kansas | animed vita-calm |
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Location: Idaho | Check him for ulcers. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | What's your routine like at home when you ride? I have fixed a couple like that, that thought every time your butt hit the saddle it was time to go. |
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| Please elaborate on these exercises. I've been struggling with one that has alot of go and we are doing better on the ground so would be very interested in these exercises. Thanks |
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Location: SE KS | TheDutchMan01 - 2015-11-18 1:46 PM
What's your routine like at home when you ride? I have fixed a couple like that, that thought every time your butt hit the saddle it was time to go.
He knows the pattern, so we ride around the pasture, lope & trot some circles, just general exercise to keep him legged up. |
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Location: Desert Land | I would just start treating him like he has ulcers...I bet you see a change in him. |
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Location: Canada | I'd treat for ulcers as well. When I have a horse that only wants to go forward instead of fighting against them I change the direction of their energy. If they are rushing forward I ask them to shoulder in, haunches in, or leg yield. When they relax and slow down we continue forward again. When they start rushing we go back to moving sideways.
It can take a while but normally I see results within the first few rides. It may initially be just a couple of strides of quiet forward movement but that's all I'm looking for initially.
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Location: SE KS | TheOldGrayMare - 2015-11-19 9:16 AM
I would just start treating him like he has ulcers...I bet you see a change in him.
Would Ulcers still be there after 6 or 7 years? |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Definitely do a complete ulcer treatment. He's probably had them for years to some degree especially since he's used in so many events. Then you can try a daily supplement like the Oxygen Pozzi relax pellets. It helps calm and soothe the stomach. I'm a rep, so feel free to PM me if you have questions. |
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Location: Phoenix | Mine is like that. Mostly he's just a pain to settle down and walk after he's been going faster than a trot. Using Ed Wright's method of pulling UP rather than BACK has helped a lot. I do a lot of constant training with him during rides. I lift up until he walks and instantly release the pressure. After I'm done loping I ask for a walk and if we're prancing I make him walk in a small-med circle. Once he's walking I let him go and walk straight. Sometimes I walk circles in the shape of a circle--circle, walk some, circle farther up, walk some, circle farther up, walk some. Eventually he calms down. Really focusing on CONTACTING with my seat helps.
Ever since I cut out grain and started using Renew Gold he's been about 75% better. On trail rides with more than 2 horses he's still iffy and will be a d!ck n the way home trying to catch up with faster walkers but I pick my battles. I don't think this can ever be permanently fixed; it needs to be instilled at a young age!
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Location: Florida.. | All the !!!!! made me a bit stressed or edgy.. LOL
Id check yourself to see if you are calm and mellow as well
it can make him more stressed.. his enviroment too
what feed is he on? hay?
when you work him Id make him mentally work not just Physically.. do slow exercises like hunches in , lateral movements, shoulder in, trotting poles, anything to get his mind busy and work his differant muscles..it is really tiring to make them do slow correct work.. make him think about it and focus.. youd be surprised how much energy it takes them to do this..
ulcer treatment to.
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| I've never had a horse act like that I'm pretty layed back and it transfers to my horses, i usually buy young so they spend a lot of time just being sat on, tied up i do a lot of groundwork in a round pen and the lunge line , i very rarely get out of a controlled lope at home. I have the time and patience to teach one to relax. Maybe i haven't had one yet that's as energetic as yours.anyways that's what works for me if it takes an hour to get 600 yards relaxed that's what i do my kids are grown i have no time restraints |
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Location: MD | Have one like it. Unfortunately been battling lameness forever it seems. He has a busy mind and a lot of gas in the tank ALWAYS. I feel like the more I argue and fight him to do it "my way" the worse he gets. I learned that he can do a lot of long trotting, breeze him a couple times if he's ready and does it on my schedule that's okay to keep him in shape. but for day-to-day rides he does best setting up little trail patterns and ask him to do stuff to make his mind busy... but I CANNOT nit pick. the more you pick the more explosive he wants to be. If he steps on a pole, doesn't side pass the whole way... whatever it may be, just leave him alone just be happy he did it in the first place. As long as he is trying it and listening I will always praise and be happy he had his mind focused on me and the task at hand.
He is an appy, so it explains his always on the go type of personality. I would just try to adapt to how he works, some horses are just wired that way. Also worth noting, since I have transferred over to basically free choice hay and 1.3 lbs of triple crown complete a day he is off all calming supplements(and other supplements period) and there is a visible difference in his demeanor. |
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| Honestly, I'd do a full 28 days of Gastrogard, free choice hay, take away all grain. Switch to alfalfa cubes and rice bran.
Get a good calming supplement like EQ Adapt, I haven't tried OxyGen but bet it's fine. A supplement like EQ Stomach or SmartGI Ultra.
If that doesn't help you see a difference in 60 days, and it's really making you nuts, sell the horse. I personally can't handle those personalities. I've had three, and now I'm old enough to know that I don't buy them anymore. It's not their fault, but I just don't handle the drama anymore. |
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