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Seriously injured horse-UPDATED AGAIN 12/18

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darchick
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-23 3:15 PM
Subject: Seriously injured horse-UPDATED AGAIN 12/18




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My horse was injured about 2 weeks ago in a freak accident that sliced open the bursa on the point of her hock. She was 3 legged lame at time of injury.  I took her immediately to a top notch equine hospital for treatment.  She has been there for two weeks.  The injury was treated aggressively with DLP and initially she showed marked improvement.   The wound then showed areas of necrosis that had to be removed and flushed with more DLP.  Since then, she is at a standstill.  She is receiving cold water therapy 4x daily and still grade 3-4 lame.  Latest US showed no areas of necrosis, but there was slight disruption to the superficial flexor tendon fibers.  The vet didn't say whether he thinks the tendon is now the issue or not.  He just feels like there is tremendous inflammation to the area that they are trying to keep under control.  He does not feel it's an infection, but more just inflammation.

Any suggestions on additional therapies?  I do not have major medical on her so all her expenses are out of pocket and they are adding up significantly.  I'm sure my next conversation with the vet will be whether to move forward with more treatments or consider the worst possible case of having to put her down.

My heart is breaking for this super sweet mare.  Friendly advice appreciated :)

 

Edited by darchick 2015-12-18 1:13 PM
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-11-23 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Seriously injured horse-ADVICE NEEDED



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What is your hope for this mare after this injury? Be able to carry a baby?
If that is the case-as old school as it sounds-maybe she should be casted for a little while? Not even sure it would be possible-as I think about where this injury is-casting may not be possible-if its the lower hock it might be enough to get her healed up. It's going to be a long hard battle and sometimes no matter how much they mean to us-there really might not be anything you can do. Sorry for having to deal with this-it stinks.
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fatchance
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-11-23 3:55 PM
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Contact SG here on BHW she has a great new line that could help your horse. 
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teehaha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-11-23 4:19 PM
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JMO but if it's only been 2 weeks since her injury and she isn't getting any worse I'd sure give her  alot more time before I decided to put her down.  Shoot, a simple splinter on a human takes a week to heal.


 
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Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2015-11-23 4:20 PM
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So sorry
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-11-23 4:24 PM
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If the inflammation is truly most of the issue-how about ice boots?  OR I do hear good things about the magnetic therapy that was also mentioned.  Cold water therapy is good but I would htink intense icing for set periods of time 6-8 times a day would be much better and then put the magnets on in between.....would be worth a try I would think. 
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-11-23 4:55 PM
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Laser therapy, magna cu hock wrap and Curost supplement.
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Bob
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-11-23 4:59 PM
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This Bob at THE we-mail me and let's talk and I migt be able to help your horse.
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Cowgirl Kat
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2015-11-23 5:02 PM
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Laser are wonderful and do great when it comes to healing. I would also start giving NutraWOUND and maybe try some ThiamOxide. ThiamOxide is a topical that was originally made for neuropathies so it will help with the pain and inflammation.  Sending you prayers and positive vibes. I wouldn't give up yet. It's always darkest right before dawn. 
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-11-23 5:13 PM
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If there is no infection then half your battle is won.. Id give her more time.. possibly take her home to save you money and do home care.. my gelding fractured both his hocks and it took a good 8 months to heal and then was slowly back in low level training..good luck..  
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rockstarinboots
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-11-23 7:15 PM
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I agree if you are fighting inflammation ice is your friend! (a cheap, pain in the but friend)
I am praying for you and your mare!
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-11-23 7:27 PM
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There is a drug called Palesine, that is administered specifically to the affected area to erradicate inflammation, my vet has used this a few times on horses, one had inflammation in the joint, the other tore the joint capsule right out of the joint, both returned to barrel racing sound.

Other things that could be done is flush the joint with salaine approx 4 hours to get rid of all the proteins the inflammatory process leaves behind that destroys the joint. Then inject with HA no steroids, this will also reduce inflammation.

For the tendon, there is a product called a-cell, it is generic stem cells costs 200/bottle, does the exact same thing as the real deal, have used both had success with both. This can only be used at a certain time of healing, if the fibres are disorganized don't do it, the fibres need to be organized to reduce complications and scar tissue.

Biggest thing you need to do is reduce inflammation.
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-11-23 7:49 PM
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Bob - 2015-11-23 3:59 PM

This Bob at THE we-mail me and let's talk and I migt be able to help your horse.
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Yes contact Bob. He has helped so many horses. THE supplements work wonders and have a money back guarantee. If you are on facebook, here are some pictures of my colt that tore all the hide off his chest. I gave him NutraWOUND and later ThiamOxide. https://www.facebook.com/krystal.harrispeterson/media_set?set=a.1020...
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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-11-23 8:10 PM
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-11-23 8:16 PM
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Bob - 2015-11-23 5:59 PM

This Bob at THE we-mail me and let's talk and I migt be able to help your horse.
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I would do this ASAP as well as other suggestions on here.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-11-23 11:16 PM
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Please let us know how things are progressing. Sending prayers your way for your girl

Edited by Chandler's Mom 2015-11-23 11:17 PM
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darchick
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-24 8:55 AM
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Thanks for all the great replies!

I'm still awaiting an update from the vet today. What really stinks is that I'm 6 hours away from her, so I haven't laid eyes on her since I left her.

I've been through this before with another horse and after thousands of dollars at the vet, multiple therapies, 10 straight months on stall rest, and lifelong special shoeing, I still have a lame horse. That was 3 years ago, but I have gotten 2 nice babies out of her thus far.

Cheryl, I can not find any info on the anti-inflammatory you mentioned. The Palesine?? Is that the correct spelling?

Also, what's the best ice boots for the hock area? The vet doesn't feel like the joint is affected. It's just the bursa and possibly the tendon.

I will give Bob a call after I talk to the vet.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-11-24 9:16 AM
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Bibliafarm - 2015-11-23 5:13 PM

If there is no infection then half your battle is won.. Id give her more time.. possibly take her home to save you money and do home care.. my gelding fractured both his hocks and it took a good 8 months to heal and then was slowly back in low level training..good luck..  

I think this is very sound advice. It certainly won't hurt to try all these other things, but the most important is patience and perseverance. Two weeks isn't very long. "Inflammation" is part of the normal healing process. The most potent "antiinflammatory" agent available is steroids, and we wouldn't give steroids to a human for this kind of injury. Shouldn't be any different for a horse. Again, for any injury like this, inflammation is normal and even essential for the healing process. Be patient. It will probably take quite some time.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-11-24 9:32 AM
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darchick - 2015-11-24 8:55 AM

Thanks for all the great replies!

I'm still awaiting an update from the vet today. What really stinks is that I'm 6 hours away from her, so I haven't laid eyes on her since I left her.

I've been through this before with another horse and after thousands of dollars at the vet, multiple therapies, 10 straight months on stall rest, and lifelong special shoeing, I still have a lame horse. That was 3 years ago, but I have gotten 2 nice babies out of her thus far.

Cheryl, I can not find any info on the anti-inflammatory you mentioned. The Palesine?? Is that the correct spelling?

Also, what's the best ice boots for the hock area? The vet doesn't feel like the joint is affected. It's just the bursa and possibly the tendon.

I will give Bob a call after I talk to the vet.

No that isn't the right spelling. The drug is spelled palosein also known as a orgotein.

It is not used much any more, my vet has a special import permit from Europe to bring the drug in. It costs about the same as a HA injection.

Edited by cheryl makofka 2015-11-24 9:34 AM
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darchick
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-11-24 10:25 AM
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Just spoke with the vet.  He is sending me a video of her walking.  He says she is still pretty lame, but he says she is improving "slightly."  He still feels like it is not infection, just inflammation at a very sensitive area of the hock.  However, they still have her on antibiotics.  She was on Bayril and they've switched her to Excede.  He says they are slowly weaning her off her anti-inflammatories (bute and prevacoxx, although I know they gave her steriods at some point), but want to continue her cold salt therapy 4x daily at least through the end of this week, and hopefully she will improve a little each day. 


 
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