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| So as young lady i come across many people with rebel flags... and in my opinion now a days it doesnt represent "Southern heritage and being proud of who you are" To me it symbolizes racism due to the south wanting to keep slavery and what not. Most "Rednecks" have confederate flags and some of them are the most racist people i have ever met. And IM NOTTTT okay with that. I look at everybody equally no matter what skin color, accent, eye color, or what they wear. I just wanna know what your opinions are and what you think it means. Thanks:) I do not mean anything bashful. Just my opinions and if you would like to further educate me on this topic i would gladly accept it.
http://www.candidslice.com/what-does-the-confederate-flag-really-mean/
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | its a flag that some people use as a positive symbol, some not.
there are MORE important things to be upset about and actually combat against. a silly flag is NOT one of them....
it doesnt bother me in the slightest every person is an individual and what the flag means to them is is different than the next person. |
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| No, I don't feel the Confederate flag is about racism. The Civil War was much more than simply slavery. Slavery is the easiest aspect to teach young children so it's morphed into being about slavery only. The truth is it was more about the South feeling that a state should be able to govern itself and not have the Federal government tell them what to do. They were trying to break away because of that. Yes, slavery was part of that issue, but it wasn't the main reason the Civil War was fought. The main reason was the Federal government was overstepping it's authority. Sound familiar? There were actually 3 or 4 flags designed with the Stars And Bars during the Civil War.
Did you know that the swatiska was actually an Aboriginal peace symbol before Hilter adopted it and made it something associated with the evil that was World War II?
Sorry but old flags are simply what people decide to make them. If YOU view the Confederate Flag as all about slavery and rednecks, it's because that is what YOU decided it was. |
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Location: Florida.. | SKM - 2015-11-28 1:58 PM No, I don't feel the Confederate flag is about racism. The Civil War was much more than simply slavery. Slavery is the easiest aspect to teach young children so it's morphed into being about slavery only. The truth is it was more about the South feeling that a state should be able to govern itself and not have the Federal government tell them what to do. They were trying to break away because of that. Yes, slavery was part of that issue, but it wasn't the main reason the Civil War was fought. The main reason was the Federal government was overstepping it's authority. Sound familiar? There were actually 3 or 4 flags designed with the Stars And Bars during the Civil War.
Did you know that the swatiska was actually an Aboriginal peace symbol before Hilter adopted it and made it something associated with the evil that was World War II?
Sorry but old flags are simply what people decide to make them. If YOU view the Confederate Flag as all about slavery and rednecks, it's because that is what YOU decided it was. I agree and most that fly them have no idea the meaning of them.. lol.. They just want their truck to look good at school or zooming down the roads..
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Location: SE Louisiana | BS!!! Some of the most racist people I ever met are black.... and they JUMP at every opportunity to scream racism. Slavery my a$$!! It was black people selling black people to ship over here.... |
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Location: Florida.. | IM pretty sure the south doesnt want slaves. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-11-28 1:00 PM
SKM - 2015-11-28 1:58 PM No, I don't feel the Confederate flag is about racism. The Civil War was much more than simply slavery. Slavery is the easiest aspect to teach young children so it's morphed into being about slavery only. The truth is it was more about the South feeling that a state should be able to govern itself and not have the Federal government tell them what to do. They were trying to break away because of that. Yes, slavery was part of that issue, but it wasn't the main reason the Civil War was fought. The main reason was the Federal government was overstepping it's authority. Sound familiar? There were actually 3 or 4 flags designed with the Stars And Bars during the Civil War.
Did you know that the swatiska was actually an Aboriginal peace symbol before Hilter adopted it and made it something associated with the evil that was World War II?
Sorry but old flags are simply what people decide to make them. If YOU view the Confederate Flag as all about slavery and rednecks, it's because that is what YOU decided it was. I agree and most that fly them have no idea the meaning of them.. lol.. They just want their truck to look good at school or zooming down the roads..
Agreed... I've seen more and more of them ever since it became such a big deal. My nephew decided to fly one on his pickup and drive around town with his buddies .. simply because all his buddies were doing it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | It makes me want to puke that liberals are re-writing our history to go in lines what "They" think. My husband was raised in the South and the Confederate Flag to him is all about Southern Pride. People better wake up as the libs are dismantling this great country piece by piece. Freedom of speech will be soon something we use to have. Very sad.. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2015-11-28 1:54 PM It makes me want to puke that liberals are re-writing our history to go in lines what "They" think. My husband was raised in the South and the Confederate Flag to him is all about Southern Pride. People better wake up as the libs are dismantling this great country piece by piece. Freedom of speech will be soon something we use to have. Very sad..
I agree......The Civil war was not "about" slavery". It was only one little piece of the turmoil between the North and South. The Confederate Flag is a symbol and rememberance to those men (ALL of them....becuse black and white both fought for the South) who fought and lost their lives in the war..... I am so sick and tired of those who are "offended" by every little thing in this nation that we, now, have to bow down and kiss their A$$ and make nice. History is just that....history!
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-11-28 1:03 PM BS!!! Some of the most racist people I ever met are black.... and they JUMP at every opportunity to scream racism. Slavery my a$$!! It was black people selling black people to ship over here....
And does anyone know that even before African slaves, the English sent Irish people into slavery in the New World? And not indentured servitude - slavery.
As for the flag, I only see it as a symbol of history. And as SKM pointed out, the Civil War was more about states' rights, the economy, and the feds wondering how the Union would survive without southern state funds. |
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Location: KS | komet. - 2015-11-28 1:03 PM
BS!!! Some of the most racist people I ever met are black.... and they JUMP at every opportunity to scream racism. Slavery my a$$!! It was black people selling black people to ship over here....
^^ THIS. ^^
It is wrong for them to ban the Confederate Flag. They didn't fight that war. No one who whinned about it did either. They also didn't risk their lives for it like others did. They SHOULD have zero rights to ban it just because a bunch of people are butt hurt..
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Location: Here | FearTheRedPaint - 2015-11-28 12:39 PM So as young lady i come across many people with rebel flags... and in my opinion now a days it doesnt represent "Southern heritage and being proud of who you are" To me it symbolizes racism due to the south wanting to keep slavery and what not. Most "Rednecks" have confederate flags and some of them are the most racist people i have ever met. And IM NOTTTT okay with that. I look at everybody equally no matter what skin color, accent, eye color, or what they wear. I just wanna know what your opinions are and what you think it means. Thanks:) I do not mean anything bashful. Just my opinions and if you would like to further educate me on this topic i would gladly accept it.
http://www.candidslice.com/what-does-the-confederate-flag-really-mean/
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Nothing racist about the flag.
Being raised in the south it is nothing more than being proud of being a southerner. If you want to see racism, then that is your view not mine |
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Location: Here | SKM - 2015-11-28 12:58 PM No, I don't feel the Confederate flag is about racism. The Civil War was much more than simply slavery. Slavery is the easiest aspect to teach young children so it's morphed into being about slavery only. The truth is it was more about the South feeling that a state should be able to govern itself and not have the Federal government tell them what to do. They were trying to break away because of that. Yes, slavery was part of that issue, but it wasn't the main reason the Civil War was fought. The main reason was the Federal government was overstepping it's authority. Sound familiar? There were actually 3 or 4 flags designed with the Stars And Bars during the Civil War.
Did you know that the swatiska was actually an Aboriginal peace symbol before Hilter adopted it and made it something associated with the evil that was World War II?
Sorry but old flags are simply what people decide to make them. If YOU view the Confederate Flag as all about slavery and rednecks, it's because that is what YOU decided it was.
Better said than what I said
But this is a great summation!
I think studying Southern History and knowing what the civil war was Really about would better educate the masses |
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Location: West Texas | Bottom line, the Confederate flag has nothing to do with racism. Racism is being reinvented today as we speak, just this time, the other way around. So no, I do not agree with you. The Civil War wasn't fought over slavery. The North was wrong and oppressive. Still is. |
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Location: Here | This is NOT a Bash But Simply an observation.
Your profile says you don't like to read.
Seriously reading and understanding for yourself is better than Hollywood's view point on subjects.
Try reading history. It really is an eye opener... |
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Location: West Texas | Thank God we no longer have slavery in America. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Tdove - 2015-11-28 3:32 PM Thank God we no longer have slavery in America.
The working man is no enslaved to work and pay for all the freebies that able bodied people get because of not "Wanting" to work. The more they get...the more they demand.
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Location: West Texas | No we are not. We are burdened, not enslaved. Most working people are enslaved with their own desire for material things. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Just another pawn in the presidents game. It only represents what you want it to. Africa STILL has slavery, many countries STILL have slavery. I doubt those countries are stupid enough to be getting rid of past flags or digging up military generals from past conflicts. If they can't move past this part of our history, perhaps they don't want to be Americans. Last I checked it is an equal opportunity country. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2014/11/23/247-wall-st-countries-most-slaves/70033422/
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| First of all I am a member of UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY. My husband was a member of SONS OF CONF3DERATE VETERANS. Bothh of these organizations are genealogical organizations. The Civil War really was over unfair taxation of the Southern States and whether or not the Southern States could count slaves for representation in Congress The representation thing was not a new issue as it really had been dividing the North and South since the Constitution was written.
I am on my tablet and don't know how to link something but first of all you need to read the speech given to the Mississippi congress about the Confederate battle flag on the state flag by a BLACK GUY in the early 1900's.
The second thing is the flag that everyone seems to be bent out of shape about was NOT the flag that represented the Confederated States. It is the Battle Flag of the Army Of Northern Virginia which was Robert E Lee's men. Because Lee was so successful it was adopted by other groups.
The SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS does reactments and rededicates graves of Confederate veterans. One of the biggest groups of reenactment guys is HOOD'S TEXAS BRIGADE. Late last spring as I drove to school, I was passing a trailer with antique wagons on it the next truck and trailer in the procession had HOOD'S. TEXAS BRIGADE on the side and there was a BLACK GUY driving the truck. Bet he doesn't think the flag is racist. The only people who think it is racist did not pay attention in history class, did not have history taught properly, or do not care to read the facts.
So here is your short history lesson. You can take it the way you want. No one ever reads my posts anyway . The FIRST NATIONAL FLAG OF THE CONFEDERACY flies in Marshall TX. That does represent the entire Confederacy. It is at the intersection of Hwys 59 and 43. If you come to any kind of equine event from the South or west you pass it. It does not offend anyone because no one knows what it is. I seriously doubt that I am going to change anyone's ideas but at least read the facts. |
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