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| One of my young ones is a free runner to the first barrel then mega "Push " style to the other two. He is very light in the face but needs a bit that will allow me to set and help him on the first barrel then just push and he turns the other 2 pretty much on his own with little to no help. Any ideas? Maybe I can find a bit that works on this Cyber Monday!!! |
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Location: Durango CO | I use a chain mounth ported bit on one of mine. Se is super strong and hot and I use the CJ Grasshopper on her. An Ed Wright pretzel, CJ Grasshopper, Molly Powell (something-or-other) are my suggestions. |
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| like above stated I would check into Molly Powell Rate and Turn with chain mouth. I had a Free runner who would get stiff and this was great bit for him.
I also used the CJ grasshopper & Red River 8" shank limited gag chain mouth. Hope that helps! Good luck ??
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Location: California | I really like the Dave Elliot bits. I have a few now and heel like I have a lot of control of their front feet and shoulders. I too was having a problem finding a bit for my mare to rate at the first barrel. Any bit I tried (Sherry Cervi long shank, Ed Wright Pretzel) she would rate (kind of) but then just got real heavy in my hand and stiff in the rib cage (she's naturally very stiff). She is also very sensitive with her mouth and has always been. I called Dave and he suggested the Spur Up 03 and I got it in a smooth mouth. When I spoke with Dave he said there is no bit that can truly "rate" a horse when you are going that fast. What you want is collection, a breaking at the pole and elevation of the shoulders and rib cage. This allows the horse to get underneath themselves and rate a barrel, because they are prepared to turn it with their body. He explained it a lot better, but it really made sense to me and has worked! I also felt like I had control to place her feet at any time if she stepped in too early or late at another barrel (she's 5 and still figuring things out). I did not feel like I was on her head and her tell is she will flip her nose at the barrel when you get a hold of her too much. She hasn't done it yet with the new bit so it's working so far. I also really like the Sharin Hall 01-M with an 04 mouthpiece. |
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| cantrnr - 2015-11-30 9:48 AM
I like this one.
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| I have a black mare who used to be the same way, really strong to the first and then auto to the second and third. I put her in this
http://www.pfiwestern.com/reinsman-long-shank-gag-7-16-large-twiste...
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | For a horse like what you have a Sherry Cervi dog bone..Theres a short shank and long.. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I use JD Morrow Bits. He makes bits for Ed and Martha Wright as well. Here's his link. Message/Call him. He knows how to bit a horse really well and will take bits back and exchange them for you if they don't work the first time. I've never had to send a bit back to him.  http://jdbits.com/ |
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| Calibarrelrcr - 2015-11-30 2:27 PM
I really like the Dave Elliot bits. I have a few now and heel like I have a lot of control of their front feet and shoulders. I too was having a problem finding a bit for my mare to rate at the first barrel. Any bit I tried (Sherry Cervi long shank, Ed Wright Pretzel) she would rate (kind of) but then just got real heavy in my hand and stiff in the rib cage (she's naturally very stiff). She is also very sensitive with her mouth and has always been. I called Dave and he suggested the Spur Up 03 and I got it in a smooth mouth. When I spoke with Dave he said there is no bit that can truly "rate" a horse when you are going that fast. What you want is collection, a breaking at the pole and elevation of the shoulders and rib cage. This allows the horse to get underneath themselves and rate a barrel, because they are prepared to turn it with their body. He explained it a lot better, but it really made sense to me and has worked! I also felt like I had control to place her feet at any time if she stepped in too early or late at another barrel (she's 5 and still figuring things out). I did not feel like I was on her head and her tell is she will flip her nose at the barrel when you get a hold of her too much. She hasn't done it yet with the new bit so it's working so far. I also really like the Sharin Hall 01-M with an 04 mouthpiece.
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Location: North Pole | FLITASTIC - 2015-11-30 9:20 AM
One of my young ones is a free runner to the first barrel then mega "Push " style to the other two. He is very light in the face but needs a bit that will allow me to set and help him on the first barrel then just push and he turns the other 2 pretty much on his own with little to no help. Any ideas? Maybe I can find a bit that works on this Cyber Monday!!!
I have a gelding who is very similar. I ride him in a Dave Elliott Spur Up 03 (I think that's the correct number) with a twisted billy Allen mouth. Works like a charm. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | FLITASTIC - 2015-11-30 9:20 AM
One of my young ones is a free runner to the first barrel then mega "Push " style to the other two. He is very light in the face but needs a bit that will allow me to set and help him on the first barrel then just push and he turns the other 2 pretty much on his own with little to no help. Any ideas? Maybe I can find a bit that works on this Cyber Monday!!!
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| cecollins0811 - 2015-12-01 9:00 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-11-30 9:20 AM
One of my young ones is a free runner to the first barrel then mega "Push " style to the other two. He is very light in the face but needs a bit that will allow me to set and help him on the first barrel then just push and he turns the other 2 pretty much on his own with little to no help. Any ideas? Maybe I can find a bit that works on this Cyber Monday!!!
What bit do you ride in him now?
Right now he runs in a Wonder bit with chain mouth and chain chin strap. |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I'm having the same problem except mine doesn't have enough bend at the first barrel and almost too much on second/third. Right now I'm planning on running her in a draw gag of all things; I have somewhat of enough control (barely) at first and then she's pretty automatic on the rest. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-01 2:08 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-01 9:00 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-11-30 9:20 AM One of my young ones is a free runner to the first barrel then mega "Push " style to the other two. He is very light in the face but needs a bit that will allow me to set and help him on the first barrel then just push and he turns the other 2 pretty much on his own with little to no help. Any ideas? Maybe I can find a bit that works on this Cyber Monday!!! What bit do you ride in him now? Right now he runs in a Wonder bit with chain mouth and chain chin strap.
I have never had any use for a wonder bit, get rid of it and try one these thats been posted, I really like my Sherry Cervi dog bone. Some really nice bits have been talked about on here, but a Wonder bit I dont even own anymore.  |
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Location: Central Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-30 2:49 PM
For a horse like what you have a Sherry Cervi dog bone..Theres a short shank and long..
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ampratt - 2015-12-01 2:59 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-30 2:49 PM For a horse like what you have a Sherry Cervi dog bone..Theres a short shank and long.. Got a pic of that bit?
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Location: Central Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-01 3:05 PM
ampratt - 2015-12-01 2:59 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-30 2:49 PM For a horse like what you have a Sherry Cervi dog bone..Theres a short shank and long.. Got a pic of that bit?
Thanks. I have a very similar bit but it's not twisted. Does that have a little gag to it? |
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Location: California | azsun - 2015-11-30 7:54 PM Calibarrelrcr - 2015-11-30 2:27 PM I really like the Dave Elliot bits. I have a few now and heel like I have a lot of control of their front feet and shoulders. I too was having a problem finding a bit for my mare to rate at the first barrel. Any bit I tried (Sherry Cervi long shank, Ed Wright Pretzel) she would rate (kind of) but then just got real heavy in my hand and stiff in the rib cage (she's naturally very stiff). She is also very sensitive with her mouth and has always been. I called Dave and he suggested the Spur Up 03 and I got it in a smooth mouth. When I spoke with Dave he said there is no bit that can truly "rate" a horse when you are going that fast. What you want is collection, a breaking at the pole and elevation of the shoulders and rib cage. This allows the horse to get underneath themselves and rate a barrel, because they are prepared to turn it with their body. He explained it a lot better, but it really made sense to me and has worked! I also felt like I had control to place her feet at any time if she stepped in too early or late at another barrel (she's 5 and still figuring things out). I did not feel like I was on her head and her tell is she will flip her nose at the barrel when you get a hold of her too much. She hasn't done it yet with the new bit so it's working so far. I also really like the Sharin Hall 01-M with an 04 mouthpiece. How long did it take to get one?
5 weeks from Dave. I have also bought some from the Bit Auction site on Facebook. You pay $50-$75 more than ordering directly from Dave, but you get your bit faster. Also, if you order from Dave, you can exchange your bit it the one you order doesn't work out. He will work with you on finding something that feel right for you and the horse. |
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