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| Joint supplements for a older barrel horse? Also what do you recommend for a extremely nervous horse before a run? I was going to try a calming supplement, but didn't know which one. What all do you give you're older barrel horses? Thank you! :) this may sound stupid but why do you feed beet pulp and rice bran? I know a lot of ppl do and just want to know the benefits to adding it to their feed. |
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| I have a arthritic kids horse. These seems to help and not break the bank.
http://www.horse.com/item/naturvet-arthrisoothe-gold-liquid/SLT1016...
I might try the Prime Performance FLX Senior next winter so I don't have to haul the liquid in and out of the house to keep it from freezing.
I have done a lot of research on Flax seed and long term effects on an arthritic horse so I'm giving him 1/2 cup whole flax every day, we'll see next winter if he needs any extra joint juice.
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Location: NE Texas | In considering joint issues and maintenance, it's arthritis we're discussing. The question that needs to be asked is how to prevent further bone damage due to arthritis. The boney change that is there cannot be improved, but what can be improved upon is managing the inflammation (arthritis) that causes the boney change. I choose Cur-OST, as it directly targets the hind gut where most inflammation in the body begins. There is a direct link in diet to inflammation in the body and many will tell you that they have less aches and pains with there arthritis when they eat a clean diet. The Cur-OST contains high levels of bcm-95 Curcurmin, combined with other powerful herbs, to target the source of the inflammation, not just the symptoms that are already there. Not to mention the other valuable benefit received through this process, as it will improve all other inflammatory issues as well....they are all related and tied in to the gut. At some point, we all deal with arthritic changes in both ourselves and our horses simply due to age and overuse/repitition of our bodies. Looking at this from a "which comes first, the chicken or the egg" scenario, if we manage the inflammation at a cellular level, could the inflammation that leads to the boney change be lessened, and if so, would boney changes ever occur? Maybe. Prevention is worth a pound of cure for me, and I prefer to spend a little more on these products and my hay and less on commercial/processed feeds to ensure i'm providing the body with the proper nutrients to not only deter inflammation in the hind gut, but to manage it throughout the entire body in hopes to keep these boney changes that lead to arthritis at a minimum.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | THE has a new joint supplement called Joint Flex. The first 3 ingredients are Glucosamine, Chondroitin and Tumeric. As with all their products, it has a money back guarantee. They also have Calming Cookies and Calming Powder if you have a horse that doesn't eat cookies. They are all natural and are show legal. pm me your address and I can send you a sample bag of the cookies complete with holiday designs |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I second Cur-Ost. My little mare fractured her patella in 2011 and was on a regimen of Previcoxx for sometime. She is also a highwire act, bi-polar/adhd with a side of over reactive. She overcame the patella but I'd been leary of running her in two day races since because of the stifle, just dint' want to over stress it. Then in 2014 she was diagnosed with kidney and bladder stones. We have managed to keep her kidneys functioning at a high enough level to warrant the removal of the bladder stone. I had been using a product called Neoprofin AVF to help with inflammation for the stifle but because it is an enzyme I had to give it 3x a day which at times was difficult.
Then I found Cur-Ost and put her on the Total Support after talking to Dr. Schell and my vets who had dealt with the kidney issues. We went to our first 2 day race since 2010 in NOvember and her first indoor race in 3 years. Normally she is a mess at the trailer, wont' eat, wont' drink, paws, stomps, kicks. This time totally chill at the trailer without being lethargic, ate her hay, level headed in the warm up pen.
I also have my big mare that has Head Shaker syndrome on it...she no longer has to take her meds for HSS and the level headedness she used to have has returned. |
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| Cut Ost Total Support. I was skeptical of it at first. Was using it with Ultium. Was told that I really needed to change to a clean feed. No molasses and no synthetic additives . Fought that idea for a long time. Lol. But decided to try renew gold again with the alfalfa and Curost . Wow what a difference. The changes are amazing. I would also add the immune for 90 days.
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Location: North Dakota | pepsi97 - 2015-12-04 11:47 PM Joint supplements for a older barrel horse? Also what do you recommend for a extremely nervous horse before a run? I was going to try a calming supplement, but didn't know which one. What all do you give you're older barrel horses? Thank you! :) this may sound stupid but why do you feed beet pulp and rice bran? I know a lot of ppl do and just want to know the benefits to adding it to their feed.
I can't advise you much on the supplements. I've yet to try a joint one that works and have not used calming supplements. As far as the bp and rice bran though as that is part of my feeding regimen. Rice bran is very high in fat so feeding a small amount (1/2-2lbs) a day can help with a horse that needs a little extra condition and won't make a horse hot. I prefer Renew Gold because it is rice bran, coconut, and flaxseed. Beet pulp is basically just an alternative forage source. It is high in calcium and can help stretch your hay a little, help with horses that can't chew hay well, and my favorite use is to hide any powdered medications/supplements that I have to give my horses. I only feed a couple handfuls (that is dry) but you can feed more depending on why you're using it. I do not feed any processed feeds (except I guess technically the RG but I don't really count that) and the results have been really amazing. I tried a couple feeds that are generally well liked and recommended but they don't even compare. |
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| Okay another question lol. I feed safechoice original and its a complete feed. So I don't really need something like exceed 6way that has as the other stuff in it, do I? |
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| I wouldn't feed Safechpice. Because of it being a processed feed and synthetic vitamins/minerals. And I believe they had problems with bad feed. But if you do feed it, you won't need Exceed 6 way. |
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| What's a good feed then? Is it better to feed sweet feed and add their supplements in or choose a complete feed and just add joint? I've fed it for awhile now and my horses do good on safechoice. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | pepsi97 - 2015-12-06 2:11 PM What's a good feed then? Is it better to feed sweet feed and add their supplements in or choose a complete feed and just add joint? I've fed it for awhile now and my horses do good on safechoice.
I think it is better to keep it simple. Oats, Renew Gold I hear is a good one. I personally have stopped all grain except in my 2 old guys and my weanlings. Most are in pasture on just grass and have free choice loose mineral/salt. I have my show horse in the corral right now and he gets free choice grass hay & soaked alfalfa/beet pellets so I can add his Muscle Mass-GluChon, joint & arthritis, ulcer prevent, hair & coat. |
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| pepsi97 - 2015-12-06 3:11 PM
What's a good feed then? Is it better to feed sweet feed and add their supplements in or choose a complete feed and just add joint? I've fed it for awhile now and my horses do good on safechoice.
Oats with rice bran or Renew gold. Add the Curost Total and Immune. Feed Alfalfa and I give free choice Timothy. You will be surprised at the difference in your horse. |
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| readytorodeo - 2015-12-06 2:10 PM
pepsi97 - 2015-12-06 3:11 PM
What's a good feed then? Is it better to feed sweet feed and add their supplements in or choose a complete feed and just add joint? I've fed it for awhile now and my horses do good on safechoice.
Oats with rice bran or Renew gold. Add the Curost Total and Immune. Feed Alfalfa and I give free choice Timothy. You will be surprised at the difference in your horse.
Free choice alfalfa for me and Oats/ricebran with Curost total support, adapt, and one horse on stomach. |
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Location: never in the right place | you guys are lucky you can get RG, I am in the Northeast and no one near enough to me has it. TSC said they could get it, but minimum buy is a pallet and I only have 1 horse. Do you know how long that pallet would last lol. I can get Total Equine since a nearby aquaintance is going to be selling it. I know there was a TE thread and a lot of people got off of it and went to RG because their horses stopped doing good on it. Do you all think TE would be a good change. |
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| you guys are lucky you can get RG, I am in the Northeast and no one near enough to me has it. TSC said they could get it, but minimum buy is a pallet and I only have 1 horse. Do you know how long that pallet would last lol. I can get Total Equine since a nearby aquaintance is going to be selling it. I know there was a TE thread and a lot of people got off of it and went to RG because their horses stopped doing good on it. Do you all think TE would be a good change.
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I'm in the NE too and can't get Renew Gold. So I feed Max-E-Glo rice bran pellets instead.
https://www.mannapro.com/products/equine/equine-health-products/max-...
I also feed alfalfa pellets and whole oats. My horses look amazing. I am going to start looking into where I can get flax seed to add in as well. I would switch to Renew Gold if it became available here but in the meantime the Max-E-Glo works good. My Horses have been on this feed program about a month and today I noticed an increased focused energy and stamina. Thanks to all a lot of good advice from this board! |
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| Also my sister swears by MSM for arthritic horses. She said her mare showed a noticeable improvement on it. Something to look into maybe... |
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Location: South Dakota | I was so excited when we finally got Renew Gold in our area but in looking at the ingredients it didn't seem to have a lot of the vitamins that some of the others like Summer Heat have? Reading this makes me want to get a bag and give it a try though.
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| Timber Creek - 2015-12-07 6:48 AM
I was so excited when we finally got Renew Gold in our area but in looking at the ingredients it didn't seem to have a lot of the vitamins that some of the others like Summer Heat have? Reading this makes me want to get a bag and give it a try though.
Dont forget, the vast majority of vitamins and minerals in bagged processed feeds are synthetic and do more harm than good. The idea is to provide a variety of forage so the horse can assimilate all the natural vitamins and minerals from that source, not a bag. |
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Location: South Dakota | That's interesting, I had never thought about that. I really need to give it a try. My horse had energy but a dull coat. |
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