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| A friend just bought a new horse and they told them horse was a hard keeper. But they have been feeding good feed, hay 24/7, teeth done he just will not put on any weight. Any suggestions ? |
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    Location: Central Texas | If his teeth have been floated properly and he's not gaining weight on a correct/healthy diet, I would have a blood panel done and see if anything shows up. |
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| Remove grain from diet, add alfalfa pellets or good alfalfa (6-12 lbs) and rice bran (2-3 lbs), and treat for ulcers using Gastrogard or Ulcergard. Add a good stomach supplement like SmartGI Ultra or CurOst Stomach. |
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| classicpotatochip - 2015-12-16 9:32 AM Remove grain from diet, add alfalfa pellets or good alfalfa (6-12 lbs) and rice bran (2-3 lbs), and treat for ulcers using Gastrogard or Ulcergard. Add a good stomach supplement like SmartGI Ultra or CurOst Stomach.
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| I am doing everything I can to put weight on my guy and its finally working. Probably overkill, but he has really beefed up since I got him in June.
He gets 3 lb scoop of Ultium morning and night, 1lb of Renew Gold at night, alfalfa and coastal morning and night, platinum CJ and Forco at night. He also has a slow feeder of coastal 24/7.
Have really seen him start to put on the pounds after starting him on the Renew Gold. Had complete testing done on him in late october and teeth floated. Does not have ulcers, but a slight stomach issue when hauling. Never has the nervous problem any other time. Started giving him Probios an hour before loading him per vet and it has cleared up his "nervous hauling" issue. Still trying to get him all figured out and see what works best for him.
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| Thanks everyone I will let them know |
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          Location: South Georgia | I have had good results with Ultium in the past, high quality alfalfa, and Cool Calories fat supplement. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | What are they feeding him now and how much? |
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| I think they have him on safechoice |
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| Who makes the Ultium and what's it run a bag ? |
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| strawfly special - 2015-12-16 12:00 PM
Who makes the Ultium and what's it run a bag ?
Purina - depends on where you buy it, our TSC runs around $25 a bag. Its nice feed. |
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| strawfly special - 2015-12-16 12:00 PM
Who makes the Ultium and what's it run a bag ?
Purina. Mine went down a few cents at our local feed store.. $24.75 a bag. |
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    Location: Midwest | Rice bran, rule out any physical issues first. Also a high fat feed, like ultium will help. |
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          Location: South Georgia | It's expensive, like all of the good ones. Well worth it. SafeChoice is not really suitable for a hard keeper. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I see that Safechoice has a few to choose from, I wonder what one they are useing? I would look into Bluebonnet feeds for a hard keeper, and something with higher % of fat. |
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           Location: Florida.. | Safe choice will not put wieght on a Horse.. Find a high fat and calorie grain ... |
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    Location: Montana | I've had really good luck putting weight on my gelding with alfalfa pellets (two scoops soaked am/pm) two flakes grass hay ( am/pm ) an alfalfa based grain that we have here locally called Haystack Special Blend similar to strategy and omolene with the amplify nugget. |
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| Sounds like a hind gut issue. With the amount of feed that horse is getting they should be huge. Ultium and renew gold together? Holy smokes. That's a ton of fat. Once you get the hind gut working then they will start to assimilate their feed better. The horses diet should revolve around high quality forage. I use a product that conditions and keeps my horses hind gut working properly. All bagged feeds safe choice or ultium are packed with artificial vitamins and minerals that are counter productive in a horse. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Again, the bagged complete so called grain feeds are crap. I have never EVER had a hard time putting weight on a horse. I feed free choice hay and alfalfa, and real grains. If they are down on weight, then I feed C.O.B untill I get them up where I want them then switch to oats or rolled barley. Feed a good prebiotic and platinum performance. |
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           Location: Florida.. | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-16 11:45 PM Sounds like a hind gut issue. With the amount of feed that horse is getting they should be huge. Ultium and renew gold together? Holy smokes. That's a ton of fat. Once you get the hind gut working then they will start to assimilate their feed better. The horses diet should revolve around high quality forage. I use a product that conditions and keeps my horses hind gut working properly. All bagged feeds safe choice or ultium are packed with artificial vitamins and minerals that are counter productive in a horse.
Thats not what Original Poster is feeding thats what a reply poster said they feed .. Original gets safechoice |
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