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| Aculife patches, Pro's - Con's? How many patches do you use at a time? Do you seen a differance when used? How long do you put them on before you run? How do you know where to out the patches? Price on a pack of them?
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| About half of the girls that ran at the NFR had them on their horse's. The paint in my avatar had an ongoing case of EPM when he ran at the world show. He would not have been able to run if he had not been patched.
There are different patches for different sides of the horse. The horse really needs to be evaluated to put the patches on. The number of patches depends on where the horse is sore. It is easy to learn how to determine where the horse is sore. The more you use the patches, the fewer you will need. THEY ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE NOR ARE THEY FIX ALL. There are even some calming patches.
I am a distributor but I have not ordered any lately. I think you get 30 of each (left side and right side) for about $100. Actually, I usually get them through my trainer because I usually need them right then. I need to order some to put on my leg. It is killing me.
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| My mare was super sore (body and legs from standing in a concrete stall) at a barrel race once and a lady was there selling them. She patched her all over and told me the places she was sore and they did nothing that weekend. IMO they're not anything special, just a gimmick and i'd rather spend my money on the BOT, poultice, ect that I know actually work on her and keep her from getting sore but would love to hear others opinions. From what I've seen though, they didn't show any magic results on horses  |
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| I don't want to get flamed but I research everything emersafully before I do it ( hense the nickname) on more than one occasion the aculife patches have been debunked as just giving a placebo effect. through hair and the way horses metabolize through there skin it's impossible for them to actually work BUT there may be some merit they are giving a soothing effect just being on acupressure points. |
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(zipping up my flame suit)
However, there is no harm in trying them if you want to. Unlike supplements or things that are ingested orally or shots put into the body, these are just topical and are very unlikely to have any sort of side effects. The only thing you might lose is a little cash. If nothing else, they are very safe to try. |
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| I used them on a pony with severe fetlock arthritis. She was still sore and limped...that being said she was less sore. So does it work?? It sure didn't hurt |
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| Here's my take.
I use them in the calming positon on my gelding's temples. My reasoning is 3 fold. 1. If it truly works to keep my horse calm great.
2. if it does nothing, no harm done. 3. the placebo affect is actually helpful to ME even if it does nothing to my horse. If i *think* he's going to be calm, I'm calm...and then that in itself keeps him calm.
As far as using them to ease soreness? I'm not totally sold. |
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| As I said, about half of the horses runniñg at the NFR had them on. My paint horse was so body sore when he went to the APHA World Show. My trainer patched him. I can assure you that he would not have been able to perform. He was Reserve World Champion in poles and Top Ten in barrels. I am not saying that it took all the soreness out but he was able to perform. Every horse will react differently and it is not a substitute for routine maintenance. I have used them on myself and have noticed a difference.
My trainer's horse is a nut case as in afraid of everything. She uses the calming patch on him and what a difference.
My suggestion is that if you think they are a joke, don't use them use them. It is not a real hard decision. |
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| I have used AcuLife with success for soreness on myself and my horse. However, realize they aren't a cure all. If your horse is lame, see a vet. If your horse is crazy gate sour, check for ulcers. Like anything, it's common sense. It doesn't work for everyone.
I use them mainly for hock soreness.
I have patched pleasure horses who get anxious in a new pen or a horse who is nervous trailering.
I have seen it work on wounds; speed up healing time.
A packet is 30 patches; 15 white (positive ions) 15 brown (negative ions), which will cost you $89.95. They will last depending on how often you use them...you do whole body protocol, won't last long...you have specific area to work on or only before competition, will last a month or so. Tons of protocols (placements) depending on your issues...
If you're going to a 3 day show, patch on Thursday and leave on all weekend.
I am distributor. If you have anymore questions I'd be happy to help. You can check them out at www.lifewave.com/862080 |
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Location: Dubach, LA | On one gelding, I see a big difference when I patch him for calm and back soreness. The other, I don't.I |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Aeon patches are great for calming and they work. My horse has no idea what placebo means and it turned a firebreathing dragon into an almost normal horse! |
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| Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM
Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try.
I will pass that on to those girls that ran at the NFR. |
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Location: WI | streakysox - 2015-12-29 3:47 PM Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try. I will pass that on to those girls that ran at the NFR.
I only had time to look at Slick by Design, but I've only seen him wearing them at the NFR.... I have a feeling they were all sponsored.... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | streakysox - 2015-12-29 3:47 PM
Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM
Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try.
I will pass that on to those girls that ran at the NFR.
Well just because they made it to the NFR doesn't mean they are immune to quackery. Also, they get paid for testimonials and endorsements. Just because Mike Tyson loves colon cleanse doesn't mean it works.....but it does probably boost sales to certain gullible individuals.
Like someone said, it probably doesn't hurt to give it a try, if you have money to spare. |
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| linds - 2015-12-29 1:58 PM streakysox - 2015-12-29 3:47 PM Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try. I will pass that on to those girls that ran at the NFR.
I never counted more than Michelle using them- where did "half the NFR horses" come from?? I was actually surprised to see her use them, I thought the fad had ran it's course already.... |
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| streakysox - 2015-12-29 1:47 PM Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try. I will pass that on to those girls that ran at the NFR.
Can you please give us the name of the others besides Michelle who used them? I missed that- and these things are interesting to me so I am surprised I did! Thanks! |
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| Martha Josey is a very good friend. I have known her since 1964. She endorses them and sells them. I will be sure and let her know that people think pro barrel racers don't have enough sense to figure out what actually works the next time I go out to eat with her and RE. She will certainly get a laugh out of it. I know that they work on me. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Bear - 2015-12-29 1:14 PM Excellent wallet biopsy.....for pure quackery. But hey, if you have extra cash, give it a try.
Why do doctors always think that if they didn't learn it in medical school, it has no substance? Personal experience...last year I went to Josey's Reunion barrel race, with a back very messed up from a bad turn on a horse the week prior. My physical therapist worked me to a place I could ride, barely, but I was in constant pain. I got "patched" on Friday, completely took away the pain. Saturday and Sunday, same thing. Completely pain-free, not even an Advil. Yes, the pain came back on Monday, and I had to finish working it out through physical therapy, but while I had those patches on, my back was fantastic. So, stick that piece of "quackery" in your "FDA-approved drug list only" pipe and smoke it. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | streakysox - 2015-12-29 9:24 PM
Martha Josey is a very good friend. I have known her since 1964. She endorses them and sells them. I will be sure and let her know that people think pro barrel racers don't have enough sense to figure out what actually works the next time I go out to eat with her and RE. She will certainly get a laugh out of it. I know that they work on me.
LOL.....she sells them and endorses them? That settles it....they must work then. Just posting my opinion. Like I said, they seem pretty harmless, but I don't base most of my decisions on endorsements alone. Ronald Reagan and John Wayne both endorsed Chesterfield cigarettes too. People will endorse things if they get paid for it. The world is full of junk that is endorsed by celebrities.
I happen to think it's quackery. No need to get offended.
ETA: I missed the part where you are selling them. Now it makes sense.
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