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Location: Kentucky | I only have experience with T.H.E. However it's been a great product for my horses.
I have my 18 year old on T.H.E Muscle Mass with the ulcer prevent and joint & arthritis blend. I have also used the GastroPLUS on her when she had cow-patty like poops, which lasted a few months. I tried GastroGuard on her first, to no avail. Krystal sent me a bag of GastroPLUS and it cleared her up in 2-3 days.
IMO, they have a great product and great customer service. Excellent customer service. Plus their products are affordable.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I haven't used THE so can only speak from the Cur Ost side. But I use it for everything, my entire barn looks totally different. I started the journey for my allergy ridden mare. I was sick of using 100 different things to keep her running. Now I only use whole oats, flax, and Cur-Ost. Then I started a couple others to see if I noticed anything and was blown away.
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Location: North Dakota | THE did absolutely nothing for my horse. I haven't tried Cur-Ost for him but I've been very pleased with it on myself. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | this is like comparing Gandolf and Elminster Aumar
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I only have experience with THE as well. I have my 12 year old mare and my newish 6 year old gelding on THE MM with joint blend. My mare looks amazing, although she's a wooly mammoth right now. But she was the type to drop weight in the winter months. But not anymore! In the summer she is smooth, sleek, shiny and solid muscle.
My new gelding has been here just a few months. He came to me on the lean side. So although I believe his weight gain is partially due to THE MM, I am trying to get my floater in to town to get his mouth fixed, which is hindering him. But he has bulked up as well.
I used GastroPlus on my mare at the beginning of the year. And just finished a treatment with my gelding. He is an OTTB and was a super nervous, looky type. After about a week into treatment, he settled down greatly.
Looking forward to trying out THE Calming cookies!
Krystal is great to work with and has always gotten me my order in a timely fashion. Plus, she has great prices. |
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I'm working on month 4 with only feeding THE products. Previous to this, I fed Platinum for many years until I needed an extra for ulcers on my competition mare. My budget didn't allow for the Platinum version. I worked with Krystal; I bought GastroPLUS first and fed it along with my remaining Platinum during this last summer. When I fed up both my Platinum and two bags of GastroPLUS, I went ahead and ordered Muscle Mass with ulcer prevent, joint arthritis. I have been feeding this to both of my personal horses since roughly the beginning of September. Their products work - my horses look great, my supplement bill went down a bit, and I have noticed no issues with either of them. We have continued to haul my filly to sortings and shooting practices this winter while my competition mare is staying legged up til we start competing in March.
Just my experience - Good luck, I don't think you'll go wrong with either product!
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Location: NE Texas | I have used both products and they are both great companies, with great staff and offer super products. For me personally, I have had the best success with the Cur-OST on my problem horse, as Dr. Schell and the Cur-OST team literally saved his life. Plus I love the forum on www.secondvet.com and the service through that site as well for consultations. Dr. Schell (formulator of the Cur-OST product) is always looking to improve and researching new concepts and how to apply them. He's an outside the box thinker, which I appreciate, and he's able to apply alot of research that has previously been set aside. The changes I have seen in my barn are amazing, but not nearly as amazing as the results my coworker has had with her acute fibromyalgia. I know of so many people and horses who have been helped by Dr. Schell and these products that had previously almost given up. When I started these products on my horse, it was literally a last resort for him and a shot in the dark. After much discussion with Dr. Schell, he asked me to give him 2 weeks....sure glad I did! |
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Location: The Great Northwest | ~BINGO~ - 2016-01-08 5:36 AM I only have experience with THE as well. I have my 12 year old mare and my newish 6 year old gelding on THE MM with joint blend. My mare looks amazing, although she's a wooly mammoth right now. But she was the type to drop weight in the winter months. But not anymore! In the summer she is smooth, sleek, shiny and solid muscle. My new gelding has been here just a few months. He came to me on the lean side. So although I believe his weight gain is partially due to THE MM, I am trying to get my floater in to town to get his mouth fixed, which is hindering him. But he has bulked up as well. I used GastroPlus on my mare at the beginning of the year. And just finished a treatment with my gelding. He is an OTTB and was a super nervous, looky type. After about a week into treatment, he settled down greatly. Looking forward to trying out THE Calming cookies! Krystal is great to work with and has always gotten me my order in a timely fashion. Plus, she has great prices.
The Calming Cookies are very handy! There is also a powder. Very good to keep one from being so anxious. Less chance for ulcers or colic! THE people are the best to work with when problems happen. |
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Location: Lala Land | I really do think T.H.E. is a good product. I fed Muscle Mass with the breathing addative and I could not get away from giving Ventipulmin, so I tried their (THE) COPD formula and it still wasn't enough to get away from Ventipulmin when it was more humid. I tried the CurOst and haven't given ventipulmin since!! I'm so happy with this product I could jump up & down.
ETA: I was also feeding Forco and do not have a need for any other supplement. So in the long run it's saving me money.
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Location: North Dakota | I have not used Cur-Ost.
I feed a custom blend of the T.H.E. Muscle Mass. I'd have to check my label, but I have the joint support, inflammatory support, and one other. I switched to it last year and Red looked the best he has ever looked. Love it!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think turmeric makes a lot of sense. There's good evidence that it can be beneficial. I'm very impressed with what people are saying about Cur-ost. We are going to give it a try. I'm especially impressed with the results people are seeing in their horses with respiratory problems. We're going to start out with bulk turmeric, black pepper, and coconut oil. Carol has a recipe for this. We might end up going to Cur-ost. The only THE product I've tried was the calming cookies, and I couldn't get any horses to eat them no matter what I tried, so I tossed them. |
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Location: SE Missouri | Herbie - 2016-01-07 10:04 AM
I have used both products and they are both great companies, with great staff and offer super products. For me personally, I have had the best success with the Cur-OST on my problem horse, as Dr. Schell and the Cur-OST team literally saved his life.  Plus I love the forum on www.secondvet.com and the service through that site as well for consultations.  Dr. Schell (formulator of the Cur-OST product) is always looking to improve and researching new concepts and how to apply them. He's an outside the box thinker, which I appreciate, and he's able to apply alot of research that has previously been set aside. The changes I have seen in my barn are amazing, but not nearly as amazing as the results my coworker has had with her acute fibromyalgia. I know of so many people and horses who have been helped by Dr. Schell and these products that had previously almost given up. When I started these products on my horse, it was literally a last resort for him and a shot in the dark. After much discussion with Dr. Schell, he asked me to give him 2 weeks....sure glad I did!
UGH I read your posts and have one (that's a lie, I have 3, lol) that I think this would be the ticket on. Just got to get the hubby on board to try something else. |
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Location: Memphis, TN | Bear - 2016-01-07 3:28 PM
I think turmeric makes a lot of sense. There's good evidence that it can be beneficial. I'm very impressed with what people are saying about Cur-ost. We are going to give it a try. I'm especially impressed with the results people are seeing in their horses with respiratory problems. We're going to start out with bulk turmeric, black pepper, and coconut oil. Carol has a recipe for this. We might end up going to Cur-ost. The only THE product I've tried was the calming cookies, and I couldn't get any horses to eat them no matter what I tried, so I tossed them.
I would be curious to know what the mixture is on that and how it works out money wise. I came across "Turmericle" by Stance Equine yesterday which looks to be the same mixture. I'm wondering if it's cheaper to mix it myself or just buy the Turmericle already done. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Make sure you guys read this if you consider mixing yourself 
http://www.curcuminforhealth.com/the-difference-between-turmeric-and-curcumin/
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Location: NE Texas | This is the info in the link smokingirlie posted. I tried to make the link live but couldn't.
" Turmeric vs. Curcumin - What's the Difference?
The plant turmeric (Curcuma longa) is very well known in India. The root is harvested, cleaned, dried, and powdered to be used as a spice (turmeric gives curry its beautiful golden yellow color) and as a medicine. Traditionally, turmeric was used for nearly every health condition known - from smallpox to a sprained ankle. The reason for its health effects is the compound known as curcumin. Just as oranges are a source of vitamin C, turmeric is a source of curcumin. Today, we extract curcumin from turmeric to use as a natural medicine.
But, a typical turmeric root contains about 2-5% curcumin, so taking an unstandardized, powdered turmeric root product means that very large amounts would be required to get a beneficial amount of curcumin. Additionally, curcumin is poorly absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract. While turmeric is excellent when used as a spice, a curcumin extract is a better choice for health benefits.
As a separate, identifiable substance, curcumin was first isolated in 1815. But it would take almost another hundred years before its full chemical structure was accurately mapped in 1910.
Since then, research on curcumin has exploded. It works on multiple pathways at multiple levels of those pathways all simultaneously. It's like a whole pharmacy of nutrients working harmoniously.
Because of its many beneficial effects, curcumin is well regarded for many health concerns. It stops pain and inflammation, and is being currently investigated for inhibiting tumors and fighting cancer, preventing fat growth and accumulation, regulating blood sugar, stopping depression and slowing the effects of Alzheimer's disease.
Curcumin is like a pharmacy unto itself working harmoniously in many different ways." |
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Location: NE Texas | What sets the Cur-OST product even further ahead is that they use BCM-95 Curcurmin, which is 96% absorbable, in all of their products combined with other herbs and food sources that provide even more anti-inflammatory and health benefits. Dr. Schell blends these product himself by hand (not in a large mixer) and tests every batch of every ingredient he receives personally, ensuring that the Cur-OST products are held to the highest standards and no fillers are present. Here is an article on BCM-95 Curcurmin. It's no secret that I love these products, as well as anyone else who has taken this leap. http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2007/10/report_curcumin/Page-01 |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Bear - 2016-01-07 3:28 PM I think turmeric makes a lot of sense. There's good evidence that it can be beneficial. I'm very impressed with what people are saying about Cur-ost. We are going to give it a try. I'm especially impressed with the results people are seeing in their horses with respiratory problems. We're going to start out with bulk turmeric, black pepper, and coconut oil. Carol has a recipe for this. We might end up going to Cur-ost. The only THE product I've tried was the calming cookies, and I couldn't get any horses to eat them no matter what I tried, so I tossed them.
I left the bag of calming cookies that no horse would eat in the floor of my feed room. Apparently, possums are not as picky as horses. It ate the whole bag in one night. |
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| Bear - 2016-01-07 3:28 PM
I think turmeric makes a lot of sense. There's good evidence that it can be beneficial. I'm very impressed with what people are saying about Cur-ost. We are going to give it a try. I'm especially impressed with the results people are seeing in their horses with respiratory problems. We're going to start out with bulk turmeric, black pepper, and coconut oil. Carol has a recipe for this. We might end up going to Cur-ost. The only THE product I've tried was the calming cookies, and I couldn't get any horses to eat them no matter what I tried, so I tossed them.
My mare ate them like candy but I saw no change in her attitude. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | How many mg of BCM-95 turmeric is recommended per dose for a horse? We bought some today. |
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