|
|
Hungarian Midget Woman
  
Location: Midwest | For those of you that feed whole oats, are you bothered by the high NSC %?
Why or why not? |
|
| |
|
Location: Not Where I Want to Be | no,
it's a very small part of my feed program. 2-3lbs a day
|
|
| |
|
 Owner of a ratting catting machine
Posts: 2258
| I'm not, because I'm only feeding 3-5 lbs a day, total, and that is spread out.
My mare is only getting 3 lbs in a 24 hour period, because she's getting it in Omnis. My two big geldings are getting 1 lb in a scoop twice a day with rice bran, on top of Omnis, for the extra calories. They look great and are actually calmer. |
|
| |
|
 It's not my fault I'm perfect
Posts: 13739
 
Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Nope, oats a just a 'medium' in my barn. Everyone gets about 2lbs max daily. |
|
| |
|
 I hate cooking and cleaning
Posts: 3314
Location: Jersey Girl | barrelracr131 - 2016-01-07 9:07 AM For those of you that feed whole oats, are you bothered by the high NSC %?
Why or why not?
I was wondering the same. I switched from a commerical feed over the summer to a custom milled mix from the local mill. Its primarily oat based and I was concerned about the starch also. My horses only get grain once a day....one gets 2 lbs and the other 1 lb so I guess it really doesn't need to be a concern in those small amounts. |
|
| |
|
  Neat Freak
Posts: 11216
Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have a horse that I suspect has insulin resistance so he gets a small scoop of soaked alfalfa/beet pellets soaked to add his supplement into. He is so beyond hog fat that he doesn't been any grain. So his is literally just about a cup full to cover his supplements. He won't get any oats because I steer clear of any sugars and starches if I can. He'll also come in when the spring grass comes.
I do keep Woody's oats on hand because they are the cleanest I have found, but they go to the broodmares when I want to check them. Usually an every other day schedule and it is just to get them to come running to the pick up when I honk the horn. It's about the only way when you keep them in huge pastures. Plus I can farmer then into one pasture or another by having them trail the pick up knowing they will always get a snack. I bet they don't get a 1/2 coffee can apiece though. I do the same to the gelding pasture to get them checked or bring them to the house if it is too cold to trail them in on a 4 wheeler.
I have started to steer clear of most grains myself. Between the contaminated feed, the cost and the poor quality it just makes more sense to feed soaked alfalfa/beet pellets. I do use Amplify if I need to really put weight on one that is struggling, but that is usually only the really old ones. My weanlings will get Ultium Growth until April grass and the old pony gets Senior Active with his soaked mush.
I have just had excellent luck upping the quantity of their mush if I feel they are being ridden harder and could use more weight. No side affects either-hot etc. |
|
| |
|
 Whack and Roll
Posts: 6342
Location: NE Texas | I'm not concerned about it. I feed less than a scoop a day and it's only used to mix my Cur-OST in. I don't think oats (or any grain for that matter) should be fed in high quantities. |
|
| |
|
 Veteran
Posts: 274
| I have fed Oats for years...especially my running horses...this is what they get from 2 scoops a day (approx 4lbs) on up to 6 scoops a day, depending on the horse.
I feel that oats where made for a horse. It keeps their liver, pancreas, and kidney's clean. Without a clean system and horse can not preform to its top ability. I only add supplements if needed per the horse.
I keep minerals out for them 24/7, along with a coastal hay in front of them.
It amazes me how 15 years ago a whole grain feeding program was taboo, everyone wanted to feed Purina Omelene or some "complete" feed....now everyone is steering clear of these feeds and going with a whole grain. The equine world is full of fabs....so many people jump on a band wagon without any justification of the things they do. They do because 'Ms. & Mr. Aster' is doing. ..... (ill get off my soap box now, sorry for my little rant)
yet, to answer the question....I have never had a problem feeding oats... i have had problems with complete feeds over and over and over.
|
|
| |
|
Red Bull Agressive
Posts: 5981
Location: North Dakota | No, for 2 reasons. I don't feed a large amount of them, less than 5lbs spread out over the day. Second, compared to grains like corn and barley, they are significantly more digestable. And thus won't cause any issues in the gut unless the horse has a particular sensitivity. |
|
| |
|
Owner of a ratting catting machine
Posts: 2258
| Warriors Mom - 2016-01-07 10:17 AM
I have fed Oats for years...especially my running horses...this is what they get from 2 scoops a day (approx 4lbs) on up to 6 scoops a day, depending on the horse.
I feel that oats where made for a horse. It keeps their liver, pancreas, and kidney's clean. Without a clean system and horse can not preform to its top ability. I only add supplements if needed per the horse.
I keep minerals out for them 24/7, along with a coastal hay in front of them.
It amazes me how 15 years ago a whole grain feeding program was taboo, everyone wanted to feed Purina Omelene or some "complete" feed....now everyone is steering clear of these feeds and going with a whole grain. The equine world is full of fabs....so many people jump on a band wagon without any justification of the things they do. They do because 'Ms. & Mr. Aster' is doing. ..... (ill get off my soap box now, sorry for my little rant)
yet, to answer the question....I have never had a problem feeding oats... i have had problems with complete feeds over and over and over.
I agree with you. I was growing up 15 years ago, so I didn't know any better, just that oats were bad mojo. Well, after some serious problems with ulcers, and processed feed, I got to guinea pigging.
I was down to alfalfa and rice bran, and having good results, less ulcers. Something was lacking though, and I was having a hard time putting a real finish on my race bred horses.
Feeling like I was holding one foot over a cliff, I went with Omnis, which has some oats in it. Umm wow. 6 weeks later I was jumping for joy. I added a few more oats, and they look ready for a sale or something. PLUS, they're healthy, calm, and happy, instead of full of ulcers and nervous problems. I just can't beat it and won't be going back after 90 days of oats, alfalfa, and rice bran. |
|
| |
|
Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Just curious
I have fed both commercial feeds and whole grains with success.
just looking for opinions on the topic |
|
| |
|
| We feed 30+ horses oats 2x daily, and no the NSC % does not bother me for the same reason everyone else mentioned. We've been doing this as long as I remember and we have never had any issues. Our elevator mixes us batches with oil and mineral. They always feel great and I haven't had issues with my horses getting hot. |
|
| |
|
 Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
Posts: 13315
Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | No, because my horse won't eat anything else and doesn't stay on the low starch. His appetite stays good on oats. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1314
Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | When I was a kid we always feed our sows oats as the feed company's said that is was good for their stomachs. Keep them from have issues with their stomachs because of limited feed intake. Mine all get fed about 4# of oats a day mixed with all their other basic feed needs. |
|
| |
|
 Hugs to You
Posts: 7551
Location: In The Land of Cotton | No. I measure by weight according to needs. I.e. working, pasture ornament, broodmare. |
|
| |
|
 Off the Wall Wacky
Posts: 2981
Location: Louisiana | SmokinGirlie - 2016-01-07 8:23 AM
Nope, oats a just a 'medium' in my barn. Everyone gets about 2lbs max daily.
Same here. My guy gets slightly less than 1.5lbs (full scoop) in the am, and less than a pound in the evening. The evening oats are purely bc he is currently on a loading dose of CurOst.
Once he goes to the maintenance dose he'll be back to just once a day. |
|
| |
|
 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
Posts: 64864
Location: In the Hills of Texas | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-07 10:17 AM I have fed Oats for years...especially my running horses...this is what they get from 2 scoops a day (approx 4lbs) on up to 6 scoops a day, depending on the horse. I feel that oats where made for a horse. It keeps their liver, pancreas, and kidney's clean. Without a clean system and horse can not preform to its top ability. I only add supplements if needed per the horse. I keep minerals out for them 24/7, along with a coastal hay in front of them. It amazes me how 15 years ago a whole grain feeding program was taboo, everyone wanted to feed Purina Omelene or some "complete" feed....now everyone is steering clear of these feeds and going with a whole grain. The equine world is full of fabs....so many people jump on a band wagon without any justification of the things they do. They do because 'Ms. & Mr. Aster' is doing. ..... (ill get off my soap box now, sorry for my little rant) yet, to answer the question....I have never had a problem feeding oats... i have had problems with complete feeds over and over and over.
Purina's marketing on feeding your horse junk. People need to eat clean and so do horses. |
|
| |
|
Location: northeast | Glad someone posted this! Was thinking of switching over to oats and alfalfa pellets from Nutrena Safechoice original! What type of oats are best to feed? I know its trial by error but do oats make a horse hot? |
|
| |
|
Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Junior - 2016-01-10 4:12 PM Glad someone posted this! Was thinking of switching over to oats and alfalfa pellets from Nutrena Safechoice original! What type of oats are best to feed? I know its trial by error but do oats make a horse hot?
As long as they weren't mixed with molasses, they never made my horse hot. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 3514
| I feed the triple clean race horse oats. Add Renew Gold and her CurOst supplements. Feed Alfalfa Hay and Timothey free choice. |
|
| |
Folks on-line