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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-16 10:26 AM
Subject: Alcohol fusion of hocks



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How long does it take to get the job done?  Not looking for other alternatives as we have already done it.  Just a time frame.
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-01-16 10:54 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the alcohol used to just kill the nerves that communicate pain from the naturally fusing hocks?
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-16 1:48 PM
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Little of both, I think.


 http://www.thehorse.com/articles/26612/bone-spavin-researchers-alcohol-joint-fusion-effective-aaep-2010
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-01-16 2:27 PM
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I was told 3-6 months if it is going to work.

There is also a strict exercise regime during this time, for the fusion to be optimal, I can't remember the regime.
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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-01-16 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Alcohol fusion of hocks


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I had it done to my gelding that was in bad shape. He was basically off for the next 8months but he was TERRIBLE. It was hard on him also. He was in enough pain he did not want to walk to his feed for a couple days. He has done great with it since. I have had to inject one time as one didn't completely fuse but that's been 5years now. I had no other choice for him. He was terrible.
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-16 3:49 PM
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 Ours is not in pain, and he is getting exercised per vet instructions.  He was partially fused.  Vet used radiographs to guide him and only put chemical in the unfused places.  
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-01-17 6:07 PM
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-01-17 8:39 PM
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 Ione article stated this.....This injection results in fusion of the joint within 4-12 months. The pain relief is near immediate and horses can return to work within 48 hours of the injection.

This thread has info down further on it..
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=434560&start=1
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river runner
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-01-18 7:49 AM
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Mine was a little sore for a couple of days, started riding 2 weeks later.
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ND3canAddict
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-01-18 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: Alcohol fusion of hocks



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We decided to do this with one of our geldings who had chronic hock pain and was partially fused, too.  He struggled with his hocks for about 5 years before we did the alcohol injections as a "last ditch."  He never got as sore from at as we expected, in fact, he seemed to show improvement within a week. We were riding him about a month later and within 3 months he was being hauled again. It's been nearly 2 years since we did the single treatment and I wish we would have done it sooner.  He no longer needs injections and he travels like he should!  From the research I've done, he is not the norm... sounds like the injections are generally pretty painful for the first few days-week.
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-18 3:33 PM
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 He is moving so good it is scary...

I keep waiting on something to go wrong.  I too wish I would've done it sooner.  He was clocking sore, but it just got to be too much for him and he was dropping in his turns.

 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-01-18 3:56 PM
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kmcsunshine - 2016-01-18 3:33 PM  He is moving so good it is scary...



I keep waiting on something to go wrong.  I too wish I would've done it sooner.  He was clocking sore, but it just got to be too much for him and he was dropping in his turns.


 

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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2016-01-18 4:07 PM
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Had it done...waste of time and money as it didn't help whatsoever.  Fairly soon after I had it done, we started hearing reports of it's not the cure it was thought to be, tends to either do nothing or cause more problems...vets not recommending it etc.  The vet that did ours stopped doing it and stopped recommending it as an option. So, I've always regretted doing it. I'm actually very surprised to see so many positive comments on it.  I am, however, very glad that it did the trick for so many.  I sure wish it had helped my guy! Good luck.

Edited by runs4fun 2016-01-18 4:08 PM
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ND3canAddict
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-01-18 4:34 PM
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kmcsunshine - 2016-01-18 2:33 PM  He is moving so good it is scary...



I keep waiting on something to go wrong.  I too wish I would've done it sooner.  He was clocking sore, but it just got to be too much for him and he was dropping in his turns.


 

Our gelding was better right away, too!  He was so sore on his hocks before the alcohol that he walked with a gait similar to a German Shepard.  It's been almost two years, and he's like a new horse.  I wish I would have done it sooner, too- I was scared by all the horror stories I'd heard.  I'm sure it doesn't work for all of them (the posts here say so), but for Monte, it was a the miracle we'd hoped for! 
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-01-20 5:04 PM
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 It has been four months since she ran him, and I forgot he went left.  This is eight days post fusion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BPlXPO5ANt4

 
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CashNOut
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2016-01-20 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: Alcohol fusion of hocks



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My vet did it to one of my geldings, took 3 months, would do it again if I ran into the same situation.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-01-20 7:57 PM
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wishes4kissez
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-01-21 1:39 AM
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I had my mare done and a year later fusion had made little to no progress so we did it again. That was about 2 years ago and I haven't X-rayed again but pretty sure it's still not complete. He wanted to do it once a month at that point till it was fused but I couldn't afford it and had just found out I was pregnant. He said it was one of a very few horses that he had ever done twice and is a well known lamesness vet with years and years in practice. The only thing I found that really helped my mare was 24/7 turnout and chia seeds.
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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-01-21 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: Alcohol fusion of hocks


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kmcsunshine - 2016-01-20 5:04 PM

 It has been four months since she ran him, and I forgot he went left.  This is eight days post fusion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BPlXPO5ANt4

 

Oh wow, that's incredible. I never would have wanted to make my gelding work through it and the vet wanted voluntary movement only. Glad it's going ok.
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abrooks
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-01-21 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: Alcohol fusion of hocks


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ND3canAddict - 2016-01-18 4:34 PM

kmcsunshine - 2016-01-18 2:33 PM  He is moving so good it is scary...



I keep waiting on something to go wrong.  I too wish I would've done it sooner.  He was clocking sore, but it just got to be too much for him and he was dropping in his turns.


 

Our gelding was better right away, too!  He was so sore on his hocks before the alcohol that he walked with a gait similar to a German Shepard.  It's been almost two years, and he's like a new horse.  I wish I would have done it sooner, too- I was scared by all the horror stories I'd heard.  I'm sure it doesn't work for all of them (the posts here say so), but for Monte, it was a the miracle we'd hoped for! 

Yes on the the gait (when he would walk) but I literally was out of options also! New horse for me too.
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