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| In everyone's opinions who is gonna be the next Dash Ta Fame ? What are some colts out of young stallions have you seen run/ work really well ? |
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   Location: WI | The next DTF? I would say ASOF.
Others out of younger sires I think would be Famous Bugs, BHR Frenchies Socks, and Lions Share of Fame. |
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    Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | Blazin Jetolena. |
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  Location: Oklahoma | Of course I will be partial but would love to feel like our stallion Laico Ladiesman will be one of the sought after studs in the future. DTF will be hard to out do , there were so many of them and tried. We are small breeder and limited funds so his foals will have to speak for themselves. Proud to say with only his third crop of foals coming into the arena this year he has futurity and open money winners in his first 2 crops. Really reasonable stud fee and pedigree that speaks for itself. Maternal brother to Sugar Moon Express, aka Martha and his sire is own son of Streakin Six , Streak Laico Bird sire of Red Headed Jonsey.
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| Tres Seis/Ivory James are going to continue to be hot I think.
BHR Frenchies Socks is outstanding, but he is 17 this year so I don't know that he'll be the next DTF.
I really like A Smooth Guy, but again; probably not the next DTF. |
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    Location: lost in missouri | Hotcat your stud is very nice. I was really looking forward to seeing his foal out of Juke Joint Honor. She was a great mare. |
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    Location: Loma Linda, CA | Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues?
I wouldn't breed to him for that reason.
I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting. |
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| Guys canyon moon frenchmans guy x mulberry canyon moon we are pretty excited about him he's being ridden by jolene Montgomery she won the greg Olsen futurity on his 3/4 brother this weekend and troy placed 4th in the average on another mulberry baby and last year Hallie hanssen won a ton on his full sister mulberry is definitely passing on her genetics and probably the best mare ever crossed on frenchmans guy
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM
Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues?
I wouldn't breed to him for that reason.
I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting.
What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about. |
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         Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | I'm not sure why but the more I see of First Down French and his colts, I just drool! She also has another new stud "Ghost", I would love to get my hands on one of those! If only I wasn't a broke college kid.  |
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      Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | OregonBR - 2016-01-18 2:23 PM
Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM
Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues?
I wouldn't breed to him for that reason.
I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting.
What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about.
I don't remember much from my biology class... even if his babies out of negative mares weren't affected, would they still be able to pass on the gene and affect future generations? |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I've heard El Scorcho can produce an unicorn and a pegasus..... |
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Calangelo - 2016-01-19 6:07 AM OregonBR - 2016-01-18 2:23 PM Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues? I wouldn't breed to him for that reason. I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting. What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about. I don't remember much from my biology class... even if his babies out of negative mares weren't affected, would they still be able to pass on the gene and affect future generations? Only if they get the genes from him. With each of the disorders he carries, you have a 50% chance that the resulting foal won't inherit the gene.
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Bigtime mistake - 2016-01-18 2:24 PM Happy.
Agreed! Firewaterontherocks has 60 performing foals and has already sired $700,000 in earners!!! |
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| RacingQH - 2016-01-19 11:16 AM
Calangelo - 2016-01-19 6:07 AM OregonBR - 2016-01-18 2:23 PM Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues? I wouldn't breed to him for that reason. I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting. What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about. I don't remember much from my biology class... even if his babies out of negative mares weren't affected, would they still be able to pass on the gene and affect future generations? Only if they get the genes from him. With each of the disorders he carries, you have a 50% chance that the resulting foal won't inherit the gene.
I have always been interested in this stud but have never heard about him having genetic issues. What does he pass on? |
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   Location: TX | Good thread. There are a lot of them I personally like, including some that don't get advertised as much, such as hot cats stud. His babies are nice. Obviously there are studs out there already producing such as mentioned ASOF, BJO, BHR frenchies socks, happy, lions share of fame, Eddie Stinson and several FG, dtf, and FF studs.
I would also like some opinions on some of the studs without many goals in the pen yet. I look to Epic leader, firewater canyon and French streak to Vegas, along with Shawnee bug Leo to be producers just based on the caliber of mares they have been breeding.
What do some of you think about the following as barrel sires?
1. Rex hill, I really like his look-nice dtf stud but interested in others thoughts compared to some other dtf sons out there
2. Wave carver, maybe not a ton in the barrel pen but he is already a proven producer, thoughts?
3. Dashin Dynamo, he's certainly bred to be a sire and should have every opportunity given his connections
4. Thoughts on the new Myers studs this guyz a keeper and the other palomino, can't think of his name right now...
5. I'm thinking some of the corona cartel studs out there (best advice maybe and prime talent?) and tres seis sons (triple vodka comes to mind) will probably produce well, any thoughts?
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-19 1:05 PM
RacingQH - 2016-01-19 11:16 AM
Calangelo - 2016-01-19 6:07 AM OregonBR - 2016-01-18 2:23 PM Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues? I wouldn't breed to him for that reason. I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting. What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about. I don't remember much from my biology class... even if his babies out of negative mares weren't affected, would they still be able to pass on the gene and affect future generations? Only if they get the genes from him. With each of the disorders he carries, you have a 50% chance that the resulting foal won't inherit the gene.
I have always been interested in this stud but have never heard about him having genetic issues. What does he pass on?
He's o/o a daughter Doc O Lena so he has one copy of HERDA. He also got GBED from his mother. FG has none of the 5 disorders that are testable with DNA.
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   Location: TX | Ooh, also interested in opinions on fly the red eye, he's versatile and seems to have a great temperament and so far his babies look nice (though not in the pen yet), what do yall think?
Another stud that comes to mind as an absolute producer that just doesn't have the budget others do is reds western native. |
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| I do agree any horse not N/N on the 5 panel test is fighting an uphill battle. It is just another tool in the box when making decisions, however it would impact my decisions.
To be Dash Ta Fame, do they need to work in the pen and on the track? I would say a Corona Cartel son if that is the case. Maybe Ivory James, Best Advice, Five Bar Cartel, Furyofthewind |
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